Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:45:41AM +, David Gerard wrote: Right. So anyone in this thread going into detail about en:wp policies is actually not addressing this, and the problem is on a higher level? :-/ Back to the drawing board. That actually makes the problem a lot harder! (does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] telenor and serbia, india, ... experiences after one year?

2013-01-09 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Hi Rupert, With regards to the Telenor territories, last year we have launched in Malaysia, Montenegro Thailand: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mobile_partnerships#Where_is_Wikipedia_free_to_access.3F In the December WMF monthly metrics meeting I reported we've seen the following growth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 04:50:39PM -0800, George Herbert wrote: The correct solution to newbies being chased off is not ban them upfront. The correct solution is to deal with those chasing off the newbies ;-) There is a tremendous difference between a clickthrough warning that one might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 09/01/13 10:03, Kim Bruning wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:45:41AM +, David Gerard wrote: Right. So anyone in this thread going into detail about en:wp policies is actually not addressing this, and the problem is on a higher level? :-/ Back to the drawing board. That actually

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 10:32:00 +0100, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 09/01/13 10:03, Kim Bruning wrote: Having said that, there have been suggestions to introduce social networking features in Wikipedia. WikiLove is a step in that direction. So, what could be the next step? Befriend users and see

[Wikimedia-l] Monthly Report Wikimedia Deutschland December 2012

2013-01-09 Thread Katja Ullrich
Dear all, Wikimedia Deutschland's monthly report for December 2012 comes to you with warm wishes for the new year. Highlights this month: * updates about the *annual fundraising campaign* where we focused on personal appeals by Wikipedians and donors, as well as a special video appeal * WMDE

Re: [Wikimedia-l] telenor and serbia, india, ... experiences after one year?

2013-01-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote: In regards to Serbia and India...we had a few difficulties launching them earlier but they should be coming online soon. And we plan to have several other big launches to announce within the next few weeks. Stay tuned.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Consequences, risks and side-effects of “non-commercial” licenses

2013-01-09 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Please, see bellow the message of Joris. Since he is not subscrived, his e-mail returned. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joris Pekel joris.pe...@okfn.org wrote: Hi all, we have used Transifex to translate the document and the source text can be found there.

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 02 -- 07 January 2013

2013-01-09 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Op-ed: Meta, where innovative ideas die http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-01-07/Op-ed News and notes: 2012—the big year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-01-07/News_and_notes WikiProject report: Where Are They Now? ''Episode IV: A New

[Wikimedia-l] A related project's perspective on WMF

2013-01-09 Thread Andrew Gray
I've noticed this discussion on the OpenStreetMap mailing list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065624.html onwards There's a few parallels being drawn there (both good and bad) to Wikimedia, to the way it's developed over time, and to what degree this should be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A related project's perspective on WMF

2013-01-09 Thread Jon Davies
Makes me nostalgic. On 9 January 2013 13:02, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: I've noticed this discussion on the OpenStreetMap mailing list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065624.html onwards There's a few parallels being drawn there (both good and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-09 Thread Fred Bauder
On 09/01/13 10:03, Kim Bruning wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:45:41AM +, David Gerard wrote: Right. So anyone in this thread going into detail about en:wp policies is actually not addressing this, and the problem is on a higher level? :-/ Back to the drawing board. That actually

[Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Jan Kučera
Hi there, everybody speaks here about editor retention and how we dont know the reasons for editing decline. What about highlighting the the edit tab some special color (maybe red) like this: http://postimage.org/image/u7060y3bf/ Kozuch ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Richard Nevell
Given that our editors will always be a fraction of our readership, we want to provide a pleasant reading experience and I don't think a red edit button (at least in the manner proposed) would help with that. Something more discrete such as bolding the word edit may serve to place more emphasis on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/1/9 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com: Hi there, everybody speaks here about editor retention and how we dont know the reasons for editing decline. What about highlighting the the edit tab some special color (maybe red) like this: Similar things were done in Wikipedias in several languages.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Mono
I'm sorry, but that is rather ugly. However, a new Wikipedia interface could definitely make the read/edit switcher more prominent or we could have a echo-style popup. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2013/1/9 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] telenor and serbia, india, ... experiences after one year?

2013-01-09 Thread rupert THURNER
hi kul, thanks, i am already curious for the news! i have a hard time to understand e.g. malaysia numbers as there is no point of comparison like total over time. especially an absulute number of page views, or users would be really great. for orange in africa, the numbers are indeed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes this was quick (and maybe little ugly) mockup, but the idea is simple. Someone from E3 team around here for comments? 2013/1/9 Mono monom...@gmail.com I'm sorry, but that is rather ugly. However, a new Wikipedia interface could definitely make the read/edit switcher more prominent or we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Roth
Steven's link, without the extra is in it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_engagement_experiments On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this was quick (and maybe little

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

2013-01-09 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: Steven's link, without the extra is in it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_engagement_experiments Thanks Matthew. :) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list