[Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Hello, I just wanted to share my feelings: I went to en.wikipedia.org today and I saw this message on top: Happy Birthday Wikipedia! 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop My first impression was: I think I mistyped the URL... //Saper ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Hans A. Rosbach
My weather-forecast for this mailinglist today - Storms. Hans A. Rosbach On 14 January 2013 10:04, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: Hello, I just wanted to share my feelings: I went to en.wikipedia.org today and I saw this message on top: Happy Birthday Wikipedia! 15% off

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices)

2013-01-14 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Yes there is some data on templating in a research paper somewhere, and some more on a/b template runs. But the solution is not trivial. I have stuck up for a few editors who appear to be children, suggesting that we treat them a little more gently, only to be told that they are in fact

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread MZMcBride
Marcin Cieslak wrote: I just wanted to share my feelings: I went to en.wikipedia.org today and I saw this message on top: Happy Birthday Wikipedia! 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop My first impression was: I think I mistyped the URL... I primarily contribute to Wikipedia, so I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread James Alexander
Aye, I know it's something new and not that not all together uncontroversial. I posted about my thoughts and proposed plan on enWP last week ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Wikimedia_Shop_Central_Notices_and_Sale_for_Wikipedia_Birthdaywith a pointer on WP:AN)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-14 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Yes, of course - why didn't we think of that? Actually the lack of rules and lack of punishments means (meant) it was bloody hard to game the system. Now we have a calcified set of rules and an oligarchy, passive-aggressives have a field day. Rules-lawyers abound, polite requests to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:42 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Marcin Cieslak wrote: I just wanted to share my feelings: I went to en.wikipedia.org today and I saw this message on top: Happy Birthday Wikipedia! 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop My first impression

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
James Alexander, 14/01/2013 10:44: The test planned for tomorrow (for Anonymous users in North America, without a discount) is mostly to see the potential for this to fund the Giveaway program we've been running ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merchandise_giveaways ) that is a run away

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2013 10:34, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: James Alexander, 14/01/2013 10:44: The test planned for tomorrow (for Anonymous users in North America, without a discount) is mostly to see the potential for this to fund the Giveaway program we've been running (

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: James Alexander, 14/01/2013 10:44: The test planned for tomorrow (for Anonymous users in North America, without a discount) is mostly to see the potential for this to fund the Giveaway program we've been running

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:46 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The survey today is worldwide And by survey I obviously mean banner...clearly time for sleep James Alexander Manager, Merchandise Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-14 Thread Fred Bauder
Socialization is usually best achieved through rewards rather than through punishments. The principle reward is a sense of achievement when good editing is done or good administrative work done. In the case of editing the reward, absent trouble, is instantaneous as your work is published. Fred

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Richard Symonds
James, Do be careful about using FedEx for stuff that has to be there by a particular day. When the WMF has posted things to me in the past, FedEx have refused to deliver on weekends, leaving me with a trip to the airport in the snow to pick up the packages! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Here in the Netherlands the banner can be seen e.g. on de.wikipedia.org. I don't know what to think about it, it makes a commercial impression similar to an advert (which it actually is). Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Mono
This is rather silly - we have people complaining about the name Wikimedia being near Wikipedia (oh no!) and complaining about FedEx and airports. The real question is below. *Is it appropriate to risk the very real risk of banner blindness for the shop?* Where do we draw the line? On Mon, Jan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi James, Firstly kudos for trying to get an alternate revenue stream going as opposed to donations. I'd be surprised if you could get merchandising to the point where it funds core operations, but it is certainly worth trying. If you are facing high international transport costs then I'd

[Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz Community Impact

2013-01-14 Thread Gayle Karen Young
*I sent this to the staff list and am sending it to wikimedia-l now as well. I didn’t know Aaron Swartz, but many friends and colleagues that I respect and admire were influenced and impacted, by both his life and death. I’m sad for those who knew him, and I carry the sense that the world is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Risker
On 14 January 2013 14:02, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.comwrote: snip But if you really want me to get excited about the shop, try stocking flip flops with modified soles. I'm sure I'm not the only person who'd like to walk along the beach leaving a trail of [citation needed]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2013 14:02, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.comwrote: snip But if you really want me to get excited about the shop, try stocking flip flops with modified soles. I'm sure I'm not the only person

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Tobias
First of all, I'm glad there's a Wikimedia Shop. I don't think it'll make big money, but even if it's only self-sustaining it's totally worth it. I also think that generally we should be happy to try stuff out and use banners to advertise new services. However, I share with Mono the worry

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Tobias church.of.emacs...@googlemail.comwrote: First of all, I'm glad there's a Wikimedia Shop. I don't think it'll make big money, but even if it's only self-sustaining it's totally worth it. I also think that generally we should be happy to try stuff out and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 15% off merchandise today at the Wikimedia Shop

2013-01-14 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
When Wikimedia projects volunteers in Brazil were organizing a challenge for the Portuguese Wikipedia [1], there were some ideas of making personalized Wikipedia objects [2] adapter for the local context for the prizes, like flip flops, among others, mainly because of our famous [citation needed]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-14 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
It is worth to listen professor Lessig interview on Democracy now http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/14/an_incredible_soul_lawrence_lessig_remembers#.UPRn4_WqvF0.twitter An Incredible Soul -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: Big data benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

2013-01-14 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Of course any effort to make article source more readable meets with opposition - in the case of references in particular. And not only from those who cite CITEVAR legitimately, but from at least one admin who will block for putting references in numerical order. These are the sorts of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp

2013-01-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: Inspired by the botgenerated articles of species made on nl:wp in late 2010 a colleague of mine, User:Lsj, started a similar project on sv:wp early 2012. By October 2012 his bot had generated some 65 000 articles, with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

2013-01-14 Thread Josh Lim
(For the first time I am finally posting on the Wikimedia-l list. :P) Thanks for posting this, Everton. It is extremely moving and, somehow, this should remind us of why we are all still here, and what we are fighting for. With that said, I have said on Meta (and privately) that it's time for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

2013-01-14 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't progress that much from what it could be. We have the Busapest Open Access Initiative since 2002 http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/openaccess/read. We can find videos of professor Jean-Claude Guédon, one of the person who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard urges Elsevier boycott

2013-01-14 Thread Etienne Beaule
There is also Access2Research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Access2Research about free research articles in the Us. On 2013-01-14 21:06, Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org wrote: Don't worry, Richard, this news is now hot, but the situation din't progress that much