Re: [Wikimedia-l] WCA Meeting - Google Hangout is on on rocking!

2013-02-17 Thread Manuel Schneider

Good Morning,

we had to set up a new Hangout session:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/234db5e9ffbce74397e2e13f77c9017bebc888ce

Please come by, join us, chat with us or just speak up - we have 
speakers here so we hear you.


/Manuel


Am 2013-02-16 11:33, schrieb Michał Buczyński:

WCA London Meeting is on!
 
We would like to remind you our agenda:

meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Meetings/2013-07
 
Please, join us on Google Hangout:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/38ea423ec0e987450e09259bde4be1e52ce7f327
 
We are welcoming your input.


--
Manuel Schneider

Wikimedia CH - Gesellschaft zur Förderung freien Wissens
www.wikimedia.ch

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WCA Meeting - Google Hangout is on on rocking!

2013-02-17 Thread John Vandenberg
When I joined just now..I can hear people talking in the background, but
see a room full of empty chairs.

Will the video be published afterwards?

John Vandenberg.
sent from Galaxy Note
On Feb 17, 2013 9:19 PM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch
wrote:

 Good Morning,

 we had to set up a new Hangout session:

 https://plus.google.com/**hangouts/_/**234db5e9ffbce74397e2e13f77c901**
 7bebc888cehttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/234db5e9ffbce74397e2e13f77c9017bebc888ce

 Please come by, join us, chat with us or just speak up - we have speakers
 here so we hear you.

 /Manuel


 Am 2013-02-16 11:33, schrieb Michał Buczyński:

 WCA London Meeting is on!

 We would like to remind you **our agenda:

 meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/**Wikimedia_Chapters_**
 Association/Meetings/2013-07http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Meetings/2013-07

 Please, join us on Google **Hangout:

 https://plus.google.com/**hangouts/_/**38ea423ec0e987450e09259bde4be1**
 e52ce7f327https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/38ea423ec0e987450e09259bde4be1e52ce7f327

 We are welcoming your input.


 --
 Manuel Schneider

 Wikimedia CH - Gesellschaft zur Förderung freien Wissens
 www.wikimedia.ch

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WCA Meeting - Google Hangout is on on rocking!

2013-02-17 Thread John Vandenberg
Sorry, I fell asleep and missed the second half.

Will the video be published afterwards?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the WMF has used Oppenheim before for senior
level hiring (appointed board members and maybe C-suite level staff? I'm
not sure about that last one, but I'm almost certain I recall the WMF has
used Oppenheim for executive searches before.) My understanding is that the
value in the prospect is simply because Oppenheim simply has a wider reach
and base of contacts than the WMF does. If memory serves, they were the
ones who found Geoff Brigham, and I believe they also found the replacement
for Veronique as CFOO. I'm not really sure why this is suddenly a concern
now, and not before, especially given the quality of success they've had in
the past.

-Dan

Dan Rosenthal


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote:

 my first thought when i read this was should i use my free time to
 edit wikipedia so that somebody donates money to wmf, and they use it
 to pay oppenheim?

 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote:
  I don't understand. The board hired and pays to a company to find a board
  member? Have we tried before via our networks, chapters, and via our
  advisory board to find such a person (as been done until now?).
 
  On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Alice Wiegand awieg...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  as you know, we have one vacant appointed seat on the Board of
 Trustees. We
  have asked m/Oppenheim Associates to assist us in finding a new board
  member and and we are reaching out to the community for suggestions and
  nominations.
 
  The Board functions as a governance body that is ultimately responsible
 for
  the Wikimedia Foundation and its activities, supervises the disposition
 and
  solicitation of donations, and evaluates the organization’s Executive
  Director who leads all Foundation staff. As arguably the most
 influential
  and respected organization in the free knowledge movement, the Wikimedia
  Foundation and its Board have a great responsibility for setting policy
  deliberately and with due consideration for the diverse interests of a
  truly global community. To find out more about the responsibilities and
  workings of the board you can have a look at the Board
  manualhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_board_manual
  .
 
  As with any search process we will be communicating with a lot of
 potential
  candidates to see if we are a good match. The Board’s objective is to
 use
  this search to strengthen its competence with regards to board
 governance,
  grantmaking, strategy, and expertise with regions where Wikimedia is
 trying
  to make rapid strides in the growth of our projects.
 
  Board terms are for a two year period. Compared to other boards the time
  commitment is very significant. The Board of Trustees meets four times a
  year, twice in San Francisco and twice in changing locations around the
  globe. Meetings take two days and travel can add another two days to
 each
  meeting. In addition, the Board communicates frequently by email and
  Internet Relay Chat (IRC) as it navigates policy issues. This can absorb
  4-10 hours weekly. Board members also regularly engage with the
 Community
  through wiki pages.
 
  We think that the WMF would benefit from a Board member who has
 experience
  with organizations that have grown and evolved rapidly, and who
 understands
  how boards can evolve to provide appropriate governance support in these
  changing circumstances. Experience with international, community-driven,
  consensus organizations is also important as the Foundation would not
 exist
  without the community.
 
  We would like to call upon you to help us out with finding the right
  individual. A complete position description can be found
  here
 
 http://moppenheim.com/searches/links/Wikimedia%20Foundation%20-%20Board%20Member%20position%20description%20-%20final.pdf
  and
  additional information can be found at
  www.moppenheim.com and www.wikimediafoundation.org. Your suggestions
 and
  nominations are very welcome. Please feel free to reach out to your
  networks and distribute this note as you deem appropriate.
 
  Interested individuals should contact Lisa Grossman
 li...@moppenheim.com
 
  --
  Alice Wiegand
  Board of Trustees
  Wikimedia Foundation
 
  Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 February 2013 21:37, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the WMF has used Oppenheim before for senior
 level hiring (appointed board members and maybe C-suite level staff? I'm
 not sure about that last one, but I'm almost certain I recall the WMF has
 used Oppenheim for executive searches before.) My understanding is that the
 value in the prospect is simply because Oppenheim simply has a wider reach
 and base of contacts than the WMF does. If memory serves, they were the
 ones who found Geoff Brigham, and I believe they also found the replacement
 for Veronique as CFOO. I'm not really sure why this is suddenly a concern
 now, and not before, especially given the quality of success they've had in
 the past.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law_of_triviality - any
expense you think you understand is worth objecting to.
http://bikeshed.org


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Theo10011
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the WMF has used Oppenheim before for senior
 level hiring (appointed board members and maybe C-suite level staff? I'm
 not sure about that last one, but I'm almost certain I recall the WMF has
 used Oppenheim for executive searches before.) My understanding is that the
 value in the prospect is simply because Oppenheim simply has a wider reach
 and base of contacts than the WMF does. If memory serves, they were the
 ones who found Geoff Brigham, and I believe they also found the replacement
 for Veronique as CFOO. I'm not really sure why this is suddenly a concern
 now, and not before, especially given the quality of success they've had in
 the past.


I'd have to agree with Dan here. This is a very visible and important
position, this should require professional consulting and proper vetting
before someone is appointed. A recruiting service will have a wider reach
and better experience with suggesting suitable candidates. I also don't see
how simply appointing a chapter or community person would make this any
more balanced, since they both have separate elections every year.

Since both of you are involved with Chapters and the WCA effort, you
shouldn't be strangers to outside consultation. I think a few of the larger
chapters have approached recruiting agencies for filling vacancies, then
there was the SG position that was also going to be filled through a
recruiting agency. I hope also don't need to point out that you have
already consulted outside agencies for an organization that doesn't exist
yet.

BTW Itzik, you answer some of your own concerns pretty well here[1].

Regards
Theo

[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Resolutions/2012_SG_recruitment#Person_before_location.3F
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[Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Gayle Karen Young
To respond in brief on the m|Oppenheim hire to support us
administratively on this search, board searches are incredibly time
and resource intensive, and need to be handled with a great deal of
sensitivity. We already have a great many interested parties, so the
task needs to include screening hundreds of people in a very short
amount of time - within the next month -  (screening first bios and
then phone screens to gauge initial fit and interest), writing
summaries of each candidate for the board for their consideration,
setting up the board interviews which requires international
coordination at multiple stages, and a host of other things.

m|Oppenheim ran the searches for the senior leadership team at WMF
except for Erik and Frank, so they have the advantage of knowing us
pretty well and how quirky we are, and they are scouring their
international network to find the right talent to augment the existing
board skill set and competencies.

Please do feel free to reach out to me if you have additional questions!

Sent from my mobile device

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Indeed there's nothing to be surprised of, m/Oppenheim has always been used.

Alice Wiegand, 17/02/2013 00:55:

Interested individuals should contact Lisa Grossman  li...@moppenheim.com



I didn't understand this line: did you mean individuals interested in 
applying for the position or in commenting the process?
Using a firm like m/Oppenheim is good, but not particularly useful given 
that we (as Wikimedia movement) obviously (probably?) have no idea of 
what we really need from a WMF trustee, which is way harder to define 
than the desiderata for a manager with rather specific tasks.
Alice created this useful page to which more people should add their 
feedback, IMHO: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Agenda_2012-2013/Appointed_seats/What_makes_a_good_Trustee%3F

Is it superseded? I think it shouldn't.

For instance, let me say that I don't like the position description at 
all. :)
	It describes the board as a highly defensive body, in need of trench 
warfare experts:
* «has the ability to make unpopular decisions when necessary and 
explain them transparently in the face of criticism»;

* «comfortable *receiving* input and criticism from many sources»;
* «ability to tolerate a high degree of ambiguity, and to *negotiate* 
with people having sharply defined opinions»;

* « *Patience* with consensus processes»
(emphasis mine).
There's only a passage about «willingness to
learn from and engage with the community» which despite the word 
engage is made into a passive light by «deeply understand their 
interests and concerns».
	This is not what we need from a trustee, in my opinion. What we need is 
trustees able to:

1) *solicit* an ealthy discussion,
2) *involve* more people in the WMF work and priorities and in the 
discussions about them,
3) make the board stronger and more credible so that its not just a vox 
clamantis in deserto whose resolutions have no effect on reality (see 
Openness, probably also BLP... with all due respect and without 
repeating discussions we've had also in person) or are only monstruous 
wastes of time/resources for Wikimedia (see image filter [1]);
4) to *revolutionize* (if needed) a body so *sclerotic* that even when 
we have elections discussions are deadly empty and boring,[2] we have 
99.5 % abstention,[3] nobody asks or reads questions.[4]


HTH,
Nemo

[1] Referendum also had 96 % abstention, 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/Results/en 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/Email/False_positives
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2011#Candidates_look_like_Bre.C5.BEnev
[3] 80+ % abstention according to some estimates, no data available 
(also telling about transparency); eligible voters multiplied by 2-3 
times, voters stayed the same.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en#footer
https://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=2643859
https://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=2672174
[4] 55 people involved counting also vandals.
http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl?lang=meta.wikimediapage=Board+elections%2F2011%2FCandidates%2FQuestions%2F1
http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl?lang=meta.wikimediapage=Board+elections%2F2011%2FCandidates%2FQuestions%2F2

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Feb 17, 2013 8:29 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote:

 I don't understand. The board hired and pays to a company to find a board
 member? Have we tried before via our networks, chapters, and via our
 advisory board to find such a person (as been done until now?).

The chapters are used to find new foundation board members. That's what the
chapter selected board seats are for. The expert board seats are for
providing expertise that we are missing after the community and chapters
have selected people.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Indeed there's nothing to be surprised of, m/Oppenheim has always been used.

Actually, the last time we were looking for a new appointed Trustee we
had a NomCom in place and worked with the recruiter Eunice Azzani -
though at the time we were already working with m|Oppenheim for staff
searches.
[ http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/August_24-25,_2009 ]

The trustee we selected in the end, Bishakha, was found through our
(advisory board) network; the recruiters primarily help to handle
initial contact, interviews, and scheduling, and narrowing down the
field of candidates to those who are likely to be good fits.

The person we find this time will also be through our community and
advisor networks.  Please spread the word to those you would like to
see on the Board.

Sam.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread John Vandenberg
For context (because I needed to look it up)..
I believe this vacancy is to replace the seat held by Matt Halprin,
which was not renewed at the end of December 2012.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:CurrentBoardChart

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_of_trustees needs an update too
if Matt has left the board.

The WMF board portal and noticeboard havent been updated

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_portal

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2013 8:29 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote:

 I don't understand. The board hired and pays to a company to find a board
 member? Have we tried before via our networks, chapters, and via our
 advisory board to find such a person (as been done until now?).

 The chapters are used to find new foundation board members. That's what the
 chapter selected board seats are for. The expert board seats are for
 providing expertise that we are missing after the community and chapters
 have selected people.

Forgive me if the current board has already communicated their plan,
and I have missed it.  Please advise me if there is a published
strategy/plan for filling this seat.  I can only find this note saying
Kat is leading this initiative, and they hope to interview candidates
in person at the chapters conference in the Milan between 18-21 April:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Agenda_2012-2013#Successor_for_Matt

Following on from Thomas Dalton's explanation, which I believe is both
accurate and appropriate...

As we are approaching the board election to refill the three community
elected seats, I think it may make sense to avoid appointing someone
to the vacant expert seat until after the community elected seats are
appointed.  Shortening the list of candidates is a good idea for 18-21
April, but the expert seat should used to maximise the skills and
experiences of the board, filling as many gaps in the board as
possible.  Those gaps can't be fully identified until the community
elected seats are filled.

The community elected seats will provide the board with three people
that the community believes are important additions.  In some cases
these seats may be filled by people whose skillsets and experiences
were identified by the community as needed on the board, but the
nature of the process is that skillset balance is hard to control via
these community seats.

The process ensures that many potential candidates do not even enter
the board election, the wiki user interface hamstrings the candidates
who are not well versed in wiki editing and the wiki discussion
format, so these seats typically go to people who have 10,000+ edits
and are well respected in our community, which limits the field quite
a bit.  The community may also vote for someone who has very similar
skills and experience to someone already on the board, and it would be
a very bold board that invalidates the election result on that basis.

The expert seat is an opportunity to select a person based on the
skillset that is found to be missing on the board, and that should
happen _after_ the skills and experience of the three community seats
are locked in by their appointment.

--
John Vandenberg

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread James Salsman
Samuel Klein wrote:

... The person we find this time will also be through our community
 and advisor networks

Will there be an opportunity for the community to pose questions to
finalists, the answers to which the Board might be able to evaluate in
making a final decision?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi

I would not think so. In my experience we end up with candidates who appreciate 
a confidential process (especially if they get turned down). We have different 
processes for each of the three different board member types, this is probably 
the most private one. But if you have questions that you think we should ask: 
feel free to suggest them here :)

Regards

Jan-Bart de Vreede
Board of Trustees
Wikimedia Foundation


On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:16 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:

 Samuel Klein wrote:
 
 ... The person we find this time will also be through our community
 and advisor networks
 
 Will there be an opportunity for the community to pose questions to
 finalists, the answers to which the Board might be able to evaluate in
 making a final decision?
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Samuel Klein, 18/02/2013 01:31:

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:

Indeed there's nothing to be surprised of, m/Oppenheim has always been used.


Actually, the last time we were looking for a new appointed Trustee we
had a NomCom in place and worked with the recruiter Eunice Azzani -
though at the time we were already working with m|Oppenheim for staff
searches.
[ http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/August_24-25,_2009 ]


Yes, sorry, I didn't mean specifically for the board appointment.
It's been clear for some time that the board didn't want to rely on a 
open/committee process like NomCom for the final screening of 
candidates, so I gave that for granted. 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/53592/
The work Gayle described is huge and very important, so someone must do 
it; but it is supposed not to influence the decision-makers (i.e. the 
board directly this time), assuming that criteria for initial screening 
are clear.


Nemo



The trustee we selected in the end, Bishakha, was found through our
(advisory board) network; the recruiters primarily help to handle
initial contact, interviews, and scheduling, and narrowing down the
field of candidates to those who are likely to be good fits.

The person we find this time will also be through our community and
advisor networks.  Please spread the word to those you would like to
see on the Board.


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