Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs 2013.03.16. 14:17, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm so happy for everyone -- particularly for all the folks in the developing world who are now getting access to free knowledge they wouldn't otherwise have. This news was posted on facebook and a guy from Angola just asked when it will be available there for the Portuguese Wikipedia as well https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt/posts/228266030650914?comment_id=947903offset=0total_comments=2 Kul, maybe it would be more useful for Angola and Mozambique than the Banana Republic. :) When I do the hangouts with Angolans and Mozambicans (on my spare time, sure), [Note] I'll analyse this to have a better insight. ;) Tom [Note] The statistics of a facebook page (led by volunteers) of the Portuguese Wikipedia [1] has shown some curious numbers because people who usually like it are from Luanda and Maputo cities in Africa, I've shared this information with some wikipedians [2] (obviously further analysis on this data with other methods is necessary) and invited experienced editors to participate of google hangouts where we are going to invite people from these countries to explain about Wikipedia and the Education Program. [3] Just to you have an idea, Luanda (population ~5 mi) has about 1.700 people who liked it, Maputo (pop. ~1.2 mi) 750, followed by São Paulo (pop. 11.3 mi) and Rio de Janeiro (6.2 mi) with 230 and 180, respectively. Maybe there is some bias on facebook we cannot have access to, but it will be really interesting to try to figure out that and the videos of these hangout can also be really interesting to try to understand how people in these countries use Wikipedia. A mobile project in these countries could also be interesting, but not sure if we can have it in the short term. I'll try to do these hangouts withe them, [3] anyone here is welcome to help. [1] https://www.facebook.com/wikipediapt [2] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Estat%C3%ADsticas_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_lus%C3%B3fona_atrav%C3%A9s_do_facebook_e_Programa_de_Educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_na_%C3%81frica_(22fev2013) [3] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/propostas/Web_confer%C3%AAncia_sobre_a_Wikip%C3%A9dia_e_o_programa_de_educa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_com_leitores_de_Angola_e_Mo%C3%A7ambique_(22fev2013) -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/) . Looking at the numbers now ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ). James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation: Question time for WCA Council Chair candidates
Dear fellow Wikimedians, Re: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2013_Chair Today, Sunday 17th March, is the last day for discussion about the 3 candidates we have for Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair. The formal question period is over, but everyone is invited to discuss and react to the answers from the candidates at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2013_Chair#Questions_for_the_candidates. Voting by the Council Members will close today at midnight UTC (which happens to be the same time as in London), so all Council Members should add their vote to the election page today. You can check who your chapter's member is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Membership. A special personal thank you to everyone that took time to raise questions, and for the candidates in gamely replying with well thought out and wise rationales. Thanks, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Chapters Association Council Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used to, so... we really don't know why :) On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/ ) . Looking at the numbers now ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ). James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
Orkut used to dominate outside US and Europe. Then Google took over, neglected it and Facebook moved in. Classic big company takes small company and forgets about it On Mar 17, 2013 11:39 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used to, so... we really don't know why :) On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/ ) . Looking at the numbers now ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ). James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
Orkus was never took over by Google - it was created by Google in the first place and always operated by them. 2013/3/17 Rand McRanderson therands...@gmail.com Orkut used to dominate outside US and Europe. Then Google took over, neglected it and Facebook moved in. Classic big company takes small company and forgets about it On Mar 17, 2013 11:39 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: Facebook here is more used than Google and Orkut, but they are well used to, so... we really don't know why :) On 17 March 2013 05:29, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/ ) . Looking at the numbers now ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ). James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
Didn't know, the last time I was working for the Brazilian market was in 2011; should update my knowledge :) Balázs 2013/3/17 James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: the favorit social media site in Brazil is Orkut. Far far more popular than facebook. If you wish to have a strong social media presence there, you'll have to be present on that. cheers, Balázs Tom or someone else from Brazi would know better then me I'm sure but that doesn't seem to have been true since 2011 ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2011/09/14/facebook-surpasses-orkut-owned-by-google-in-numbers-of-users-in-brazil/ ) . Looking at the numbers now ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/BR) looks like FB is the #1 site now (of course, it IS Alexa ;) ). James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!
Hi, Balázs and James, orkut was the most popular social networking platform until a few years ago. I don't have scientific research to prove that now, but from my networking, which includes poor to high middle class people, most have migrated to facebook. orkut is seen as a site where low middle class and poor people access, which is true if youu visit a Lan House in a slum in São Paulo - last time I went I've seen people using both, orkut and facebook. All my friends from a slum I've worked in a educational project near University of São Paulo use facebook, for instance. James link also confirms that. According to this Wall Street Journal news on social media in Brazil [1], Facebook Inc. has some 65 million users in Brazil, which makes it the company's second largest market after the U.S. by number of users, according to social-analytics company Socialbakers. Also People in Brazil are spending increasing amounts of time connected to social-media sites. Globally, the average time spent on Facebook dropped 2% to 361 average minutes per user per month by September 2012, compared with a year earlier, according to comScore research. But in Brazil, Facebook time grew 208% to 535 minutes over the same period. [...] Quite a lot to understand and this makes the data of this facebook page more striking. Tom [1] Brazil: The Social Media Capital of the Universe: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323301104578257950857891898.html -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?
Samuel Klein, 16/03/2013 16:52: @Denny, Gerard: I agree we need a single place to discuss wikidata / wiktionary / omegawiki futures. Perhaps a page on Wiktionary 2.0 that starts from the ideas on the OmegaWiki page (which is the most detailed and nuanced of the current summary pages) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OmegaWiki An ambitious[ly titled] page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary_future was created, and linked from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Wiktionary. I don't know what's the best place for a discussion, but I agree that whatever it is someone should summarise relevant outcome of past discussions. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] [wca] Council chair election closes today
Hi all, the election of the WCA Council chair will close today at midnight UTC which is in three hours. Up to now, we only have four votes. In order to have a successful election, we need at least 12 votes. Please put your votes onto the list or do at least indicate your abstention. You can vote here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2013_Chair#Votes Best, Markus -- Markus Glaser WCA Council Member (WMDE) Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Info: Markus Glaser is elected Chair of the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council
Congratulations to Markus on becoming the Chair of the WCAC. The election results is available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2013_Chair#Votes, with an associated detailed QA from the candidates on the associated talk page. Thank you to all candidates for coming forward and taking part in the public debate so well. I look forward to supporting Markus in his role as our Chair, and the discussions with everyone at the Milan conference next month. Cheers, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Chapters Association Council sChair/s http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Markus Glaser is elected Chair of the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council
Hi, thanks for voting and thank you for your trust. Time will show if I can meet your expectations. Thank you, Fae, for all the work you have done so far. I assume I can continue to count on your experience :) In order to get things going, I totally depend on the help and support of the Council members. We also need to involve all chapters and affiliate organisations. Furthermore, I hope for very friendly relations to WMF and their organisations. In order to shape the future of the WCA, please approach me with all comments, criticism and suggestions! There's quite some work ahead of us! Our next milestone will be the Milan conference. Cheers, Markus Am 18.03.2013 01:12, schrieb Kirill Lokshin: Congratulations to Markus! I look forward to working with everyone to make the WCA a success in the coming year! Cheers, Kirill On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Markus on becoming the Chair of the WCAC. The election results is available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Elections/2013_Chair#Votes , with an associated detailed QA from the candidates on the associated talk page. Thank you to all candidates for coming forward and taking part in the public debate so well. I look forward to supporting Markus in his role as our Chair, and the discussions with everyone at the Milan conference next month. Cheers, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Chapters Association Council sChair/s http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Markus Glaser WCA Council Member (WMDE) Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
