Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-17 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Huh, I did not know that (I use Reddit maybe once a year at best). Perhaps
that wouldn't be a bad thing though, if that means you are speaking
directly to a relevant audience (men in an all male environment, about
gender gaps).

Dan Rosenthal


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32:

  Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
 to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me
 wrong,
 I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
 idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
 of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about
 meta,
 which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
 important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
 broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider
 audience.


 Note however that Reddit is an all-male environment, as noted on some
 other list linking this: https://infobeautiful3.s3.**
 amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_**chicks_rule.pnghttps://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_chicks_rule.png
 .
 (Still not as bad as Wikimedia!)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exit Interview - Sue

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Morris
On Friday, 17 May 2013 at 06:54, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
 Dan Rosenthal, 17/05/2013 07:32:
  Is there any thought or discussion as to whether Sue could (or would want
  to) additionally do an actual Reddit IAmA, as Jorm did? Don't get me wrong,
  I understand why it is on Meta and I think the Meta interview is a great
  idea, but there is also something to be said for presenting to an audience
  of people beyond our immediate community of users who even know about meta,
  which Reddit's IAmA subreddit is. Especially since Sue has done some very
  important work on things like gender issues and her departing thoughts on
  broader internet governance issues that would benefit from a wider audience.
 
 
 
 
 Note however that Reddit is an all-male environment, as noted on some
 other list linking this:
 https://infobeautiful3.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/01/1276_chicks_rule.png.
 (Still not as bad as Wikimedia!)



Reddit is like the rest of the Internet: there are bits which are misogynist 
and horrible, and there are bits which are more progressive and inclusive on 
gender issues. r/mensrights or r/seduction are a hell of a lot creepier than, 
say, r/feminisms or r/lgbt or, indeed, some technical topic like r/python.

If Sue were to do an IAmA (and that's kind of up to her), there'd probably be 
some sexist assholery and some people who want to rant about the perceived 
injustice of wanting to encourage women to edit Wikipedia (I know, pass the 
smelling salts, what a radical idea), but there's a solution for that: report 
it to the mods and move on.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all,

On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks!
 
 Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish speakers
 wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish version of
 Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
 
 Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it possible.

That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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[Wikimedia-l] Ask your WMF Board member

2013-05-17 Thread Alice Wiegand
Hi,

On Sunday next week there will be an open Sunday with talks and
sessions, organized by Wikimedia Deutschland. [1]

As a Board member I take the chance to offer a session to Ask your
WMF Board member. I collect questions in advance of this meeting, add
them to the questions in the meeting and publish the answers
afterwards.

If you have questions for me, maybe especially addressed to me as one
of the Chapters selected Board members, please feel free to add them
[2].

Probably I'm not able to answer all the questions because they are for
example part of the ED's job or because they relate to an area of
interest where other Board members know better. Then it may take a
little bit longer to get the answer, but the question will be heard.

I'm interested in what interests you and it would be wonderful to have
a wider range of questions including those of Chapters and individuals
from all over the movement.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Offener_Sonntag
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Offener_Sonntag#Frag_dein_WMF_Board-Mitglied

Thanks,
Alice.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Congratulations to all of us who have worked all these years to make this
possible :D
The change in the count is very innapropiate (someone said on our Village
Pump it was like preparing for New Year's Eve and falling sleep in the
counting and waking up the other day), but it doesn't take the credit of
all the work that has been done.

By the way, can someone update our logo for the celebrations?
According to this poll [1], the logo should be
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-es-millon-vector.svgbetween
May 16th and June 16th.Also, the link should go to
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000

Thanks,

*Osmar Valdebenito G.*
**
Director Ejecutivo
A. C. Wikimedia Argentina

[1]
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2013/Conmemoraci%C3%B3n_del_mill%C3%B3n_de_art%C3%ADculos_de_Wikipedia

2013/5/17 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org

 Hi all,

 On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi folks!
 
  Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish speakers
  wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish version of
  Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
 
  https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
 
  Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it possible.

 That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .

 Regards,

 Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] All the lakes in Sweden

2013-05-17 Thread Nikola Smolenski

On 16/05/13 23:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:

On 16 May 2013 18:36, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:

All lakes (3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now
produced based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake
environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to
register and track all data of lakes in all Europe.

The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care
of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the
same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)


Are these all on OpenStreetMap, too?


We will know when people start filling in 
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P402


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience

2013-05-17 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-05-15 22:07, Sue Gardner a écrit :

It's the
[[Michael Shermer]] thing: if we ignore the rustling in the grass and
it's the wind, no harm done. But if we ignore it and it's a tiger,
we're dead. So rationally, we behave as though everything is a tiger,
without necessarily realizing that reflexively doing that has a 
pretty

high price-tag.


Interesting. On the other hand, in my very own case, I think that if 
it's a tiger, then I'm dead anyway: I'm not a warior able to win against 
a tiger with bare hand, and I'm not sure on this but isn't the average 
tiger a better sprinter than the world biggest human champion in this 
field?


It may me think of the quotation, which I red, may be on this list, 
(attributed to the Dalai Lama in the document where I found it): I 
there's a solution there's no need to worry, and if there is no 
solution, there's no need to worry.




Anyway, yes. Patience, maturity, self-control and generosity for the 
win :-)

Sue

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffComs $40,000 Hong Kong junket

2013-05-17 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you Bence, for your thoughtful replies to this thread, here and on Meta.

Lodewijk writes:
 I think there are two relevant discussions to be had: First of all,
 whether there should be an AffCom meeting at all.

I've seen excellent work come out of long-form committee meetings.
Though these don't have to be entirely in person.

 The second relevant question is, in my opinion, whether the WMF travel
 policy is good, proportional etc.

Better: should there be a class divide between 'WMF' and 'other' lodging?

I think: not.

Case in point: we often have a ~8-fold difference in price between the
high and low end of 'official' lodging at Wikimania.  We could reduce
this a lot.  Or could provide extra awesome services for those staying
in dorms  hostels.

 another criticism is that it should be equalized for all Wikimedia-
 sponsored trips... last time, I believe it was Sue who mentioned
 that this would simply result in much less travel and participation.

Less travel need not mean less participation.  Take the money you were
going to spend on jet fuel and hotel salaries, and invest it in
videoconf infrastructure (some mix of software, better cameras and
mics, and even timeshare access to video meeting rooms in hundreds of
cities around the world). The whole movement would benefit from that,
not only those with time to fly.

Bence writes:
 a number of committee members have expressed the need to examine
 whether they could stay in accommodation shared by other attendees

I hope some of you do.  Then you'll get to hang out with me. :-)
Hotels tend to be boring in comparison anyway.

But I am sure anything you choose within the WMF guidelines will be approved.

SJ

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] All the lakes in Sweden

2013-05-17 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Very cool project. Do you know how many lakes are there in other European
countries (or website/datasets)?

It is for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Lakes

2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se

 A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes
 (3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based
 on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment
 data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and
 track all data of lakes in all Europe.

 The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care
 of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the
 same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)

 Examples
 http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land
 http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn

 Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not
 know the name (and for the ones missing name)
 https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/**
 cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%**3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%**
 253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%**2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**2525B6pings_kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
 or
 http://www.bing.com/maps/?**mapurl=http%3A%2F%**
 2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%**2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%**
 3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%**3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%**
 2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%**2525C3%2525B6pings_kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun

 As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even
 thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.

 We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in
 Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to
 generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database
 extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs

 We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really
 happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites
 who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to
 generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological
 excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)

 Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come
 further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?

 Anders



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread Matthew Roth
If you do a blog post to announce it, please let me know and I'll translate
to English. Or if you can give a rough English translation, I can clean it
up. Would be happy to publish on the Wikimedia Blog.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Osmar Valdebenito
os...@wikimedia.org.arwrote:

 Congratulations to all of us who have worked all these years to make this
 possible :D
 The change in the count is very innapropiate (someone said on our Village
 Pump it was like preparing for New Year's Eve and falling sleep in the
 counting and waking up the other day), but it doesn't take the credit of
 all the work that has been done.

 By the way, can someone update our logo for the celebrations?
 According to this poll [1], the logo should be

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-es-millon-vector.svgbetween
 May 16th and June 16th.Also, the link should go to
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000

 Thanks,

 *Osmar Valdebenito G.*
 **
 Director Ejecutivo
 A. C. Wikimedia Argentina

 [1]

 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2013/Conmemoraci%C3%B3n_del_mill%C3%B3n_de_art%C3%ADculos_de_Wikipedia

 2013/5/17 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org

  Hi all,
 
  On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
  Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi folks!
  
   Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish
 speakers
   wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish version
 of
   Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
  
   https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
  
   Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it possible.
 
  That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .
 
  Regards,
 
  Shlomi Fish
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] All the lakes in Sweden

2013-05-17 Thread Anders Wennersten
Sorry not, and what we have learned is how hard is to to define what a 
lake is


In Swden some mention there are 200 000 lakes, and that the Hydrology 
authority has data of over 150 000  but where less then 75 000 has a 
name and many with just rudimentary data. The lakes with environment 
impact data are 7 233 and in this project data with 100 dataitems per 
lake are collected from three authorities,  and articles are generated 
into sv:wp for 57 648 (not 30 000) lakes. Only around a few percent of 
these are without name and the most common name is used by 645 unique 
lakes... (just to take care of the forkpages is a science in its own)


Anders



Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada skrev 2013-05-17 18:06:

Very cool project. Do you know how many lakes are there in other European
countries (or website/datasets)?

It is for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Lakes

2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se


A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes
(3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based
on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment
data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order to register and
track all data of lakes in all Europe.

The articles are generated by AWB and with some manual effort to take care
of text in existing articles and a major effort taking care of all with the
same name (Little lake, Black lake etc)

Examples
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5landhttp://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ren,_Sm%C3%A5land
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bunn http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunn

Also on maps from Google or Bing you can localize all lakes if you do not
know the name (and for the ones missing name)
https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=http://toolserver.org/~para/**
cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%**3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%**
253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%**2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%**2525B6pings_kommunhttps://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://toolserver.org/~para/cgi-bin/kmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun
or
http://www.bing.com/maps/?**mapurl=http%3A%2F%**
2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%**2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%**
3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%**3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%**
2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%**2525C3%2525B6pings_kommunhttp://www.bing.com/maps/?mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Epara%2Fcgi-bin%2Fkmlexport%3Fproject%3Dsv%26article%3DKategori%253AInsj%2525C3%2525B6ar_i_J%2525C3%2525B6nk%2525C3%2525B6pings_kommun

As you can see the text is substantial around 5000 characters and even
thing like fisharts in the lakes are generated from databases.

We are now starting to contemplate to put these type of basedata in
Wikidata (we are experimenting with this for some adm units), and to
generate the articles from that as a base instead of from database
extracted from the authorities and put on personal PCs

We have excellent relations with involved authorities that are really
happy with the result, and we are now being approached by other authorites
who wants to follow and get their data from theirs databases used to
generate qualified Wp articles (like all runestones, all archaeological
excavations sites, all artworks placed on official grounds etc)

Are there any other effort like this going on, especially if any one come
further in establish links from authorities databased to wikidata?

Anders



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report concerning appeal (FDC round 2)

2013-05-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

I'm gonna cry.

I'm glad to see that the board finds this report useful... as for me, I 
finally read the grant's pages and found them a perfect recipe for 
disaster: especially the talk page 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_HK/Education_Toolkits_For_Liberal_Studies/Report.
A poem could be written on the dynamics on display there. Maybe someone 
will write one at some point.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
Congratulations to all who contributed to reach such a landmark..


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If you do a blog post to announce it, please let me know and I'll translate
 to English. Or if you can give a rough English translation, I can clean it
 up. Would be happy to publish on the Wikimedia Blog.


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Osmar Valdebenito
 os...@wikimedia.org.arwrote:

  Congratulations to all of us who have worked all these years to make this
  possible :D
  The change in the count is very innapropiate (someone said on our Village
  Pump it was like preparing for New Year's Eve and falling sleep in the
  counting and waking up the other day), but it doesn't take the credit of
  all the work that has been done.
 
  By the way, can someone update our logo for the celebrations?
  According to this poll [1], the logo should be
 
 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-es-millon-vector.svgbetween
  May 16th and June 16th.Also, the link should go to
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000
 
  Thanks,
 
  *Osmar Valdebenito G.*
  **
  Director Ejecutivo
  A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
 
  [1]
 
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2013/Conmemoraci%C3%B3n_del_mill%C3%B3n_de_art%C3%ADculos_de_Wikipedia
 
  2013/5/17 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org
 
   Hi all,
  
   On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
   Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Hi folks!
   
Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish
  speakers
wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish
 version
  of
Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
   
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
   
Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it possible.
  
   That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .
  
   Regards,
  
   Shlomi Fish
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread Salvador A
Thank you Matt! Also, we are doing a little campaign of promotion in
Twitter with the hashtag #Wikipedia1millón If anyone want help.
El may 17, 2013 12:57 p.m., Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org escribió:

 thanks, Lucien.
 I created a draft and translated it here:

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Spanish_Wikipedia_1_million_articles

 Anyone reading this should please feel free to edit the English translation
 to make it better. I'll publish in 1-2 hours, depending on whether anyone
 else makes edits.

 thanks!
 Matthew



 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Lucien leGrey lucienleg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi, Matthew. It is already published in spanish:
 
 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.es/2013/05/wikipedia-en-espanol-supera-el-millon.html
   and
 
 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000
 
  Thanks and best regards,
 
 
  2013/5/17 Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org
 
   If you do a blog post to announce it, please let me know and I'll
  translate
   to English. Or if you can give a rough English translation, I can clean
  it
   up. Would be happy to publish on the Wikimedia Blog.
  
  
   On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Osmar Valdebenito
   os...@wikimedia.org.arwrote:
  
Congratulations to all of us who have worked all these years to make
  this
possible :D
The change in the count is very innapropiate (someone said on our
  Village
Pump it was like preparing for New Year's Eve and falling sleep in
 the
counting and waking up the other day), but it doesn't take the credit
  of
all the work that has been done.
   
By the way, can someone update our logo for the celebrations?
According to this poll [1], the logo should be
   
   
  
 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-es-millon-vector.svgbetween
May 16th and June 16th.Also, the link should go to
   
  
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000
   
Thanks,
   
*Osmar Valdebenito G.*
**
Director Ejecutivo
A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
   
[1]
   
   
  
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2013/Conmemoraci%C3%B3n_del_mill%C3%B3n_de_art%C3%ADculos_de_Wikipedia
   
2013/5/17 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org
   
 Hi all,

 On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi folks!
 
  Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish
speakers
  wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish
   version
of
  Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
 
  https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
 
  Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it
 possible.

 That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .

 Regards,

 Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread María Sefidari
El 17/05/2013, a las 14:50, Osmar Valdebenito os...@wikimedia.org.ar escribió:

 Congratulations to all of us who have worked all these years to make this
 possible :D

+1! ¡Felicidades! :D

 The change in the count is very innapropiate (someone said on our Village
 Pump it was like preparing for New Year's Eve and falling sleep in the
 counting and waking up the other day), but it doesn't take the credit of
 all the work that has been done.

Yes, slightly anticlimactic. xD

I have a technical question. Do we know (or is there any way to find out) which 
was the specific 1 Million article (or, most probably, Anexo)? It'd be nice to 
know.

In any case, congrats to everyone!

Kind regards,

María

 
 By the way, can someone update our logo for the celebrations?
 According to this poll [1], the logo should be
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-es-millon-vector.svgbetween
 May 16th and June 16th.Also, the link should go to
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Anuncio_del_art%C3%ADculo_1_000_000
 
 Thanks,
 
 *Osmar Valdebenito G.*
 **
 Director Ejecutivo
 A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
 
 [1]
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2013/Conmemoraci%C3%B3n_del_mill%C3%B3n_de_art%C3%ADculos_de_Wikipedia
 
 2013/5/17 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org
 
 Hi all,
 
 On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:19:45 -0500
 Salvador A salvador1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks!
 
 Maybe many of you have it already noticed. Nevertheless, spanish speakers
 wikimedians want to share with you our joy of that the spanish version of
 Wikipedia has surpassed the million of articles.
 
 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Estad%C3%ADsticas
 
 Thanks and congratulations to all volunteers that make it possible.
 
 That's great! Thanks to all volunteers/admins/etc. .
 
 Regards,
 
Shlomi Fish
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spanish Wikipedia first million

2013-05-17 Thread ENWP Pine
   Felicitaciones a la española Wikipedia! 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fogos_artificiais.jpg

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[Wikimedia-l] Draft ED Job Description Online

2013-05-17 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi Everyone

I have posted the draft ED job description online at the ED transition site.

If you want to comment on:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Executive_Director_Transition_Team/Position_description

Please do so before the end of Sunday (PST). Sorry for the rush, but its not a 
long document :) Along with other members of the transition team I will be 
available to discuss this this weekend.

Thanks

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience

2013-05-17 Thread ENWP Pine
 Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 12:47:08 -0700
 From: Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patience
 Message-ID: 519537bc.6000...@frontier.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 On 5/16/2013 11:52 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
  I agree that patience is a very important virtue in some situations, such 
  as when we coach newbies or seek consensus among many people. But it's 
  sometimes not a virtue, such as in many crisis situations. As a metrics and 
  performance enthusiast, I feel that it's possible to have an appropriate 
  mix of patience and impatience, and people should be appropriately 
  accountable for their performance.
 I suppose it depends what implications you attach to those words, but I 
 would not recommend using impatience when what you really want is 
 urgency. In my experience, the self-discipline that goes into everyday 
 patience can actually remain a virtue in crisis situations as well, as 
 it may help you remain clear-headed and make better decisions than you 
 would if you let the circumstances overwhelm your ability to think 
 rationally. And as Fred points out, a big part of my message relates 
 especially to making emergencies out of things that are not.
 
 I also do not believe that patience is in any way incompatible with 
 accountability. Patience does not require ignoring commitments, 
 discarding performance evaluation, or even disregarding agreed 
 timeframes. However, it does mean that the results of the evaluation 
 should be well-considered and any consequences appropriate to the 
 circumstances. Impatience tends to drive us to choose excessive 
 consequences, like a lot of the somebody should be fired kind of talk 
 over things that are honest mistakes.
 
 --Michael Snow
 
 
 

I think I understand your distinction between urgency and impatience in
the sense that the former doesn't necessarily imply the brusqueness
that the latter can.

Whether a situation is an emergency is sometimes subjective. I think
that someone on this list pointed out that something that's a crisis
for one entity may be viewed as a minor issue by another entity.

I agree that employment consequences for poor performance
should be carefully considered prior to implementation. However, 
sometimes demoting or firing someone is appropriate, even if a poor 
decision was an honest mistake. Serious negligence is unacceptable.

On the other hand, it's also a good idea do praise and celebrate
success and good performance, as we're doing now with regards 
to Spanish Wikipedia's significant milestone.

Pine
  
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[Wikimedia-l] UNESCO to make its publications available free of charge as part of a new Open Access policy

2013-05-17 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
http://www.unesco.org/new/en/media-services/single-view/news/unesco_to_make_its_publications_available_free_of_charge_as_part_of_a_new_open_access_policy/

Great step done by UNESCO! If I understood well, only credit will be
necessary.

I am glad to see that, since in some conversations I've participated with
UNESCO folks or at their events, mainly about open education resources,
some didn't get why the non-commertial restriction is closed/non-free.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report concerning appeal (FDC round 2)

2013-05-17 Thread Craig Franklin
Thanks Susana for so quickly documenting this matter, and thanks Jan-Bart
and Patricio for referring this quickly to the Ombudsperson so that it
could be investigated and dealt with quickly rather than being allowed to
fester.

I think that the recommendations that Susana have made are sensible and not
onerous to implement, and I urge the FDC to accept and implement these
recommendations as quickly as possible.

Cheers,
Craig Franklin


2013/5/15 Susana Morais susana.mor...@wikimedia.pt

 Hello,

 For all of you who are interested, I posted on Meta a report concerning an
 appeal regarding the round 2 of the Funds Dissemination Committee:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Appeals_regarding_FDC_process/2012-2013_round2#Retrospective_disqualification_of_WMCZ_and_WMHK

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Report concerning appeal (FDC round 2)

2013-05-17 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Craig Franklin
cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:
 I think that the recommendations that Susana have made are sensible and not
 onerous to implement, and I urge the FDC to accept and implement these
 recommendations as quickly as possible.

I want to echo Craig's thanks.  This was a most helpful summary.
I hope to see these recommendations are implemented by the FDC before
the next  round's letters of intent are due.

Regards,
SJ


 Hello,

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 appeal regarding the round 2 of the Funds Dissemination Committee:

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[Wikimedia-l] Hiring Community Liaisons (Contract)

2013-05-17 Thread Howie Fung
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Hey all,

For the last 18 months, the Engineering  Product Development department
has been experimenting with the role of “Community Liaison, Product
Development” - a staff member embedded in the Product team and tasked with
factoring community concerns into our software development process, keeping
editors informed about what we’re doing, and maintaining a dialogue between
those who write code and those who write articles.

While there is always room for improvement, I think this role has shown a
lot of promise.  We have a number of large projects coming down the
pipeline (e.g., visual editor, discussion systems) and we need more help
reaching out to our contributor communities, especially our non-English
speaking projects, as our outreach there has traditionally been challenged.
 We’d like to recruit a small number of English-speaking or multilingual
editors to do the Community Liaison job with different development teams
and focuses.

In particular we’re looking for people with a strong history of
contributions to our projects who can provide sound and reasoned judgment
and are trusted to do so by their community. Speaking other languages in
addition to English is a major plus, as one of the objectives here is to
ensure we can properly interact with and support non-English projects.
 I’ve included the full job description below.

Our immediate need is for help with the Visual Editor.  We’d like to hire a
few community liaisons to help inform different Wikipedia language
communities of the upcoming launch, create spaces for feedback and
discussion, synthesize feedback for the Visual Editor team, and other
activities required to support the Visual Editor launch later this year.

If this is a role that would interest you, please e-mail Philippe Beaudette
at 
pbeaude...@wikimedia.orghttps://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=pbeaude...@wikimedia.org.
 And if you know someone else who might fit the role, let them know about
it :-). We’re provisionally interested in hiring 2-3 liaisons, at an hourly
rate commensurate with experience.  This can be a part-time role, but we’ll
need at least 15 hours/week for the length of the engagement (minimum 3
months).  Please do apply if you think it’s a role that suits you, and if
you find places we haven’t notified, spread the word!

Thanks.


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Community Liaison Job Description

Background Information and Statement of Purpose

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Engineering  Product Development Department is
looking at ways to more effectively incorporate broad community
perspectives in decisions and hold dialogues with our editors about the
scope, pace and features of upcoming changes to Wikimedia projects. As part
of this, it is hiring additional Community Liaisons from our volunteer
community.

Scope of Work

Support and improve our ongoing software development projects, in
particular:

   -

   Building up a network of volunteers from both English language and
   non-English language wikis, increasing the number of projects we can
   interact with;
   -

   Engaging the community in the software development process, by acting as
   a conduit for community questions, bugs and and feature requests, talking
   to editors about our work and how they can participate in it effectively,
   and recruiting them for workgroups and studies;
   -

   Being available from time to time to provide expertise and knowledge
   about our projects, including but not limited to training
   externally-sourced staff in the way our projects work, answering their
   questions, and providing expert advice on an ad-hoc basis;
   -

   Ensuring that our community is represented in the decision-making
   process and that our planned software adequately reflects user needs;
   -

   Monitoring Wikimedia projects, with the assistance of a network of
   volunteers, for emerging issues that have an impact on Engineering
   programmes; and
   -

   Other duties as needed.


Requirements

Effective Community Liaisons will be:

   -

   Experienced users of Wikimedia projects, capable of representing our
   community within the Foundation and vice-versa.
   -

   Strong communicators (both verbally and with the written word), able to
   explain our products to different groups of users with different levels of
   technical understanding.
   -

   Able to focus on the larger picture, understanding which concerns and
   views are widespread and which are marginal or individual.
   -

   Approachable, as both users and product developers must be able to trust
   these people for the relationship to function.
   -

   Self-motivated - they will be given important projects and expected to
   execute with little to no supervision.
   -

   Strongly empathetic - they excel at understanding the perspectives of
   others and bridging the gap between different approaches to the world.
   -

   Willing and able to