Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Peter, we stand up to big bullies. As big as they get. But in this case, I cannot see the WTO bullying us. Their terms are very reasonable in my opinion, and I am grateful to the legal team for handling this situation this well. But in this case, we are talking about either changing a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Peter Southwood, 02/06/2013 07:43: So we stand up to small bullies, by not to big ones. Nice to know where the line is drawn when it comes to principles. Why would you want to share visual identity with a bully? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Deryck Chan
MZM, This time misses the point of risk management - it's all probabilistic rather than deterministic. It is totally reasonable for WMF to have judged that the differences between the two logos are large enough that a trademark claim is sufficiently *unlikely* to happen. But outliers do occur and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Liam Wyatt
Very eloquently put Denny. I think your point is very well made that independently of what we as individuals think about the legal Trademark merits of this particular case, or the community processes of choosing a logo, the point remains that our fighting this would not help to serve the mission

[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter - Edition 1

2013-06-02 Thread Laura Hale
Originally published at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1#mw-navigationhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1#p-search The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter Sharing news about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 June 2013 06:43, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: So we stand up to small bullies, by not to big ones. Nice to know where the line is drawn when it comes to principles. The principle being applied here is, I think, do the right thing. The WTO is going out of their way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Peter Southwood
Perhaps I missed something, because to me their logo does not look much like the WV logo. I would think that to anyone familiar with either of the logos, the other would be immediately recognised as different. Anyone who has the pattern recognition abilities to read should see that they differ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Peter Southwood, 02/06/2013 07:43: So we stand up to small bullies, by not to big ones. Nice to know where the line is drawn when it comes to principles. Why would you want to share visual identity with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread MZMcBride
Deryck Chan wrote: This time misses the point of risk management - it's all probabilistic rather than deterministic. It is totally reasonable for WMF to have judged that the differences between the two logos are large enough that a trademark claim is sufficiently *unlikely* to happen. But outliers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Structured Data

2013-06-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Adam Baso, 31/05/2013 20:39: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2013/05/getting-started-with-structured-data.html I've tried the helper but I didn't find many tags of use (they already know that stuff about Wikipedia). However, some of those schema.org tags (like Article) could be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki goes to radio: Möebius at Ibero 90.9

2013-06-02 Thread Ivan Martínez
Thanks to all for your kindly comments. Daniel: The broadcast production considers songs and sounds with copyright, but I think we can upload a CC version without restrictive sounds to Wikimedia Commons. This is our first big project with the GLAM partnering and sounds fine the collaboration in