[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
Hello,

Universal Language Selector (ULS) - the MediaWiki extension for
language settings is ready to be rolled out for the first phase of
deployment. This extension combines the features from the earlier
MediaWiki extensions Narayam and WebFonts, to provide a more flexible
method of configuring language settings. Starting June 11th 2013, ULS
will be deployed over 5 phases, starting with 84 wikis who have
already been informed of the impending change.

We inadvertently missed out sending the original announcement to this
mailing list. My apologies for that.

Please find the original message below to know more about the
deployment plan. More information about the Universal Language
Selector can be found at:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector

Thank you.

regards
Runa


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Hello,

The Universal Language Selector (ULS)[1] provides a flexible way to
configure and deliver language settings like interface language,
fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). It combines the features
of two earlier Mediawiki extensions Narayam[2] and WebFonts[3]. From
June 11, 2013 on, ULS will be made available to all Wikimedia wikis in
5 phases[4].

# Phase 1: In the first phase, ULS will replace the Narayam and
WebFonts extensions on 84 wikis[5]. User preferences from the replaced
extensions will not be preserved. Affected communities will be
informed by the Wikimedia Language Engineering team of the upcoming
change.

# Phase 2: In the 5 weeks that follow, ULS will be deployed on
Wikipedias in size 11-20,

# Phase 3: All projects without language versions

# Phase 4: English language Wikipedia

# Phase 5:  All other wikis

The ULS can be visible in two ways:

1. In the sidebar for wikis with language versions, like Wikipedia, or
2. In the personal toolbar at the top of wiki pages for wikis without
language versions, like Wikimedia Commons and Meta-Wiki.

Based on the geographic location of users, the initial set of language
preferences is presented. Users can set the input methods and fonts to
that they want to use. Logged-in users can also change the language
for the MediaWiki menu items.

ULS is already available on several Wikimedia wikis like Wikimedia
Commons[6] and Meta-Wiki[7]. The beta installation of English
Wikipedia on Wikimedia Labs[8] shows what will be available as the
look and feel. A cog icon is present in the “Languages” section of the
sidebar menu. Clicking the cog icon opens the Language settings panel
that can be used to set the display and input settings.

Please have a look at the Universal Language Selector feature
description[9] or the Frequently Asked Questions[10] for more detailed
information.

Thank you.

regards
Runa

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFonts
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning
[5] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning#List_of_affected_wikis_.2884.29
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
[7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[8] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/
[9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector
[10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/FAQ

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-05 Thread derfussi
Just a statement besides all the other issues.  I am quite happy about the new 
vote. I did not like the logo because its very similar to the old 
Wikitravel-Logo.



Gesendet von Windows-Mail



Von: Richard Farmbrough
Gesendet: ‎Mittwoch‎, ‎5‎. ‎Juni‎ ‎2013 ‎18‎:‎01
An: Wikimedia Mailing List

Trademark protection has benefits for both parties, but primarily the 
consumer.

There is little point protecting our neutrality, for example, if our 
identity can be hijacked to make vested recommendations.


On 05/06/2013 15:58, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
> Le 2013-06-04 19:25, George Herbert a écrit :
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Mathieu Stumpf
etc...

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread Peter Coombe
What is the rationale for moving ULS from the personal toolbar to the
interlanguage links on some sites? I find this change odd:

* makes location and appearance of ULS inconsistent between sites
* personal toolbar seems the conventional place for per-account settings
and tools
* features it is replacing like WebFonts live in the personal toolbar
* interlanguage links are something rather different, taking the user to a
wholly different site

Pete / the wub


On 5 June 2013 20:52, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The Universal Language Selector (ULS)[1] provides a flexible way to
> configure and deliver language settings like interface language,
> fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). It combines the features
> of two earlier Mediawiki extensions Narayam[2] and WebFonts[3]. From
> June 11, 2013 on, ULS will be made available to all Wikimedia wikis in
> 5 phases[4].
>
> # Phase 1: In the first phase, ULS will replace the Narayam and
> WebFonts extensions on 84 wikis[5]. User preferences from the replaced
> extensions will not be preserved. Affected communities will be
> informed by the Wikimedia Language Engineering team of the upcoming
> change.
>
> # Phase 2: In the 5 weeks that follow, ULS will be deployed on
> Wikipedias in size 11-20,
>
> # Phase 3: All projects without language versions
>
> # Phase 4: English language Wikipedia
>
> # Phase 5:  All other wikis
>
> The ULS can be visible in two ways:
>
> 1. In the sidebar for wikis with language versions, like Wikipedia, or
> 2. In the personal toolbar at the top of wiki pages for wikis without
> language versions, like Wikimedia Commons and Meta-Wiki.
>
> Based on the geographic location of users, the initial set of language
> preferences is presented. Users can set the input methods and fonts to
> that they want to use. Logged-in users can also change the language
> for the MediaWiki menu items.
>
> ULS is already available on several Wikimedia wikis like Wikimedia
> Commons[6] and Meta-Wiki[7]. The beta installation of English
> Wikipedia on Wikimedia Labs[8] shows what will be available as the
> look and feel. A cog icon is present in the “Languages” section of the
> sidebar menu. Clicking the cog icon opens the Language settings panel
> that can be used to set the display and input settings.
>
> Please have a look at the Universal Language Selector feature
> description[9] or the Frequently Asked Questions[10] for more detailed
> information.
>
> Thank you.
>
> regards
> Runa
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFonts
> [4]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning
> [5]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning#List_of_affected_wikis_.2884.29
> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
> [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
> [8] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/
> [9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector
> [10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/FAQ
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New designs for account creation and login rolling out gradually to all projects

2013-06-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Steven Walling wrote:

> The remaining projects we have held off on because there are localizations
> still to be completed (on translatewiki) or there are problems with
> localizations already finished. Since the work of localizations is never
> 100% complete however, we are putting out a hard *deadline of June 5th*,
> after which we'll be turning on the forms for all projects, in all
> languages.  If you're interested in learning more about which wikis in
> particular need help, please email me off-list or get in touch via my user
> talk page anywhere.
>

Per my previous announcement and a note delivered more widely as a part of
Tech News (thanks Guillom, Odder and others for that), we're going to be
enabling the new design as default for all remaining Wikimedia projects
today. You should start seeing it visible after 22:00 UTC.

All of the top 10 language projects by size are complete and should have no
remaining issues, but the long tail of smaller wikis have not yet completed
translation [1]. The messages have been out for several weeks now, so if
you're like Turkish, Hindi, or Urdu and don't have the new login or signup
strings translated, now's your reason to get started. ;-)

Even if translations are complete, you might notice a few red links to be
tidied up. There's a list of these help links in our testing
documentation,[2] and I'll be going around trying to help do any final
customizations.

1. See a list sorted by completed translations for MediaWiki core at
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3AMessageGroupStats&x=D&group=core&suppressempty=1&language=#sortable:3=desc
2.
mediawiki.org/wiki/Account_creation_user_experience/Testing#Providing_help_links

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread Eugene Zelenko
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)  wrote:
> shi zhao, 05/06/2013 22:07:
>
>> Why ULS deployment all wikis?
>
>
> Does
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design#Rationale
> answer your question?
>
> Nemo

Is there are reliable data that most users switch language often in
mono-lingual wikis? I occasionally use USL in Wikidata, but not on
Commons. Sure, I'm not statistics :-)

I think it'll be reasonable to provide way to switch off such
functionality (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48712 is
my current favorite).

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

shi zhao, 05/06/2013 22:07:

Why ULS deployment all wikis?


Does 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design#Rationale 
answer your question?


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread shi zhao
Why ULS deployment all wikis?
Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/
My blog: http://shizhao.org
twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao

[[zh:User:Shizhao]]


2013/6/6 Runa Bhattacharjee :
> Hello,
>
> The Universal Language Selector (ULS)[1] provides a flexible way to
> configure and deliver language settings like interface language,
> fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). It combines the features
> of two earlier Mediawiki extensions Narayam[2] and WebFonts[3]. From
> June 11, 2013 on, ULS will be made available to all Wikimedia wikis in
> 5 phases[4].
>
> # Phase 1: In the first phase, ULS will replace the Narayam and
> WebFonts extensions on 84 wikis[5]. User preferences from the replaced
> extensions will not be preserved. Affected communities will be
> informed by the Wikimedia Language Engineering team of the upcoming
> change.
>
> # Phase 2: In the 5 weeks that follow, ULS will be deployed on
> Wikipedias in size 11-20,
>
> # Phase 3: All projects without language versions
>
> # Phase 4: English language Wikipedia
>
> # Phase 5:  All other wikis
>
> The ULS can be visible in two ways:
>
> 1. In the sidebar for wikis with language versions, like Wikipedia, or
> 2. In the personal toolbar at the top of wiki pages for wikis without
> language versions, like Wikimedia Commons and Meta-Wiki.
>
> Based on the geographic location of users, the initial set of language
> preferences is presented. Users can set the input methods and fonts to
> that they want to use. Logged-in users can also change the language
> for the MediaWiki menu items.
>
> ULS is already available on several Wikimedia wikis like Wikimedia
> Commons[6] and Meta-Wiki[7]. The beta installation of English
> Wikipedia on Wikimedia Labs[8] shows what will be available as the
> look and feel. A cog icon is present in the “Languages” section of the
> sidebar menu. Clicking the cog icon opens the Language settings panel
> that can be used to set the display and input settings.
>
> Please have a look at the Universal Language Selector feature
> description[9] or the Frequently Asked Questions[10] for more detailed
> information.
>
> Thank you.
>
> regards
> Runa
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFonts
> [4] 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning
> [5] 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning#List_of_affected_wikis_.2884.29
> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
> [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
> [8] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/
> [9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector
> [10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/FAQ
>
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[Wikimedia-l] [X-POST] Universal Language Selector(ULS) Deployment - Phase 1

2013-06-05 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
Hello,

The Universal Language Selector (ULS)[1] provides a flexible way to
configure and deliver language settings like interface language,
fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). It combines the features
of two earlier Mediawiki extensions Narayam[2] and WebFonts[3]. From
June 11, 2013 on, ULS will be made available to all Wikimedia wikis in
5 phases[4].

# Phase 1: In the first phase, ULS will replace the Narayam and
WebFonts extensions on 84 wikis[5]. User preferences from the replaced
extensions will not be preserved. Affected communities will be
informed by the Wikimedia Language Engineering team of the upcoming
change.

# Phase 2: In the 5 weeks that follow, ULS will be deployed on
Wikipedias in size 11-20,

# Phase 3: All projects without language versions

# Phase 4: English language Wikipedia

# Phase 5:  All other wikis

The ULS can be visible in two ways:

1. In the sidebar for wikis with language versions, like Wikipedia, or
2. In the personal toolbar at the top of wiki pages for wikis without
language versions, like Wikimedia Commons and Meta-Wiki.

Based on the geographic location of users, the initial set of language
preferences is presented. Users can set the input methods and fonts to
that they want to use. Logged-in users can also change the language
for the MediaWiki menu items.

ULS is already available on several Wikimedia wikis like Wikimedia
Commons[6] and Meta-Wiki[7]. The beta installation of English
Wikipedia on Wikimedia Labs[8] shows what will be available as the
look and feel. A cog icon is present in the “Languages” section of the
sidebar menu. Clicking the cog icon opens the Language settings panel
that can be used to set the display and input settings.

Please have a look at the Universal Language Selector feature
description[9] or the Frequently Asked Questions[10] for more detailed
information.

Thank you.

regards
Runa

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFonts
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning
[5] 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UniversalLanguageSelector/Deployment/Planning#List_of_affected_wikis_.2884.29
[6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
[7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[8] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/
[9] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector
[10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/FAQ

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-05 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Trademark protection has benefits for both parties, but primarily the 
consumer.


There is little point protecting our neutrality, for example, if our 
identity can be hijacked to make vested recommendations.



On 05/06/2013 15:58, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:

Le 2013-06-04 19:25, George Herbert a écrit :

On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Mathieu Stumpf

etc...

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-05 Thread Mathieu Stumpf

Le 2013-06-04 19:25, George Herbert a écrit :

On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Mathieu Stumpf
 wrote:

Isn't it because trademark is based on the completly irrelevant and 
irrealistic willing to have an unilateral despotic control on some 
symbol, branded as "image protection", using ego/narcissistic 
fallacies to argue, threat and coercion to impose its observance?



What, like how the Foundation trademarks our logos, so that random
scammers cannot confuse people into thinking they are looking at a
free, open, community site?

The Foundation uses Trademark, Linus Torvalds went to some effort to
get the Linux trademark as a community intellectual property value,
there are numerous examples.


As I say there [1], I just don't agree, and it just my opinion. Enough 
said.


[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_practices_discussion#We_can_go_without_trademark





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