Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread James Salsman
Where is the draft Annual Plan referred to at 1:02 of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCEj5AOrFA ?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Recognition of Amical Wikimedia

2013-06-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Congrats to the Catalan army! I became a fan during the Teylers
project last year and have noticed since then that they are
particularly good at GLAM projects. I think part of their success is
based on their ca-wikipedia though, because European countries without
a specific language-pedia never seem to get chapter-ish workgroups off
the ground (I am thinking here of the be and lux of Benelux).

I certainly hope the themed framework will change this!
Jane

2013/6/7, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
 Agreed with what others have said - this is great news!

 Many of us know what a longstanding issue this has been - how to recognise
 and support the excellent work of the Catalan community in a way that fits
 within our structures.
 There have been many years of sometimes controversial debates about the
 role of Chapters etc. that have revolved around this as a case-in-point.
 So, I'm pleased to see that we now have a way of formally recogising
 Amicalthat is supportive of their work but also recognises the
 different
 circumstances of their situation.

 I look forward to seeing how the Thematic Organisations system will grow
 and also to seeing how we can develop the range of ways that individuals
 and groups can be recognised without it being a zero-sum-game.

 All in all, excellent news :-)

 -Liam

 wittylama.com
 Peace, love  metadata


 On 7 June 2013 13:09, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Finally! It took us some years but I'm glad that it definitely happened!
 :)

 Congratulations to everyone that made it possible, and I hope the great
 work done in Catalonia extends to Valencia too :)

 Micru

 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  Hello,
 
  The WMF Board has recognized Amical Wikimedia as the first Wikimedia
  Thematic Organization.  Please join me in celebrating their work and
  success!
 
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/Recognition_of_Amical_Wikimedia
 
  This group was founded in 2008 as Associació Amical Viquipèdia,
  focused on Catalan language and culture. You may know them from the
  regular reports they have published to this list and to Meta for
  years.  They have organized dozens of successful cultural projects,
  including public events, research, GLAM initiatives, and content
  liberation.
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia#Activities
 
  After first applying to become a chapter four years ago, Amical
  members later helped the Movement Roles working group develop new
  models for affiliation, and were the first to apply to be a thematic
  organization. Gomà and Arnaugir, the founder and current chair of
  Amical, attended the Milan conference and shared their projects and
  their future plans.  An in-person meeting there helped to resolve the
  remaining bureaucratic steps in the process of becoming a thematic
  organization.
 
  Thank you to everyone from AffCom and Amical who have been involved
  throughout this process, particularly Bence and Bishakha for their
  guidance since the first movement roles discussions, and Gomà and
  María for their facilitation.
 
  Regards,
  Sam, on behalf of the Board
 
 
  == About Thematic Organizations ==
  Thematic Organizations are one of the new affiliation models created
  last year, to recognize organizations that have consistently done
  interesting work with partners and in outreach, both online and
  offline.  They are meant to be well-established and persistent
  organizations, focused on a common theme.
 
  The review and approval process for Thematic Organizations is similar
  to that for chapters.  A list of groups considering becoming thematic
  orgs can be found on Meta.
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Thematic_organizations
 
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliation_models/Thematic_Organizations
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Recognition of Amical Wikimedia

2013-06-07 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
wow..good..congratulations!


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats to the Catalan army! I became a fan during the Teylers
 project last year and have noticed since then that they are
 particularly good at GLAM projects. I think part of their success is
 based on their ca-wikipedia though, because European countries without
 a specific language-pedia never seem to get chapter-ish workgroups off
 the ground (I am thinking here of the be and lux of Benelux).

 I certainly hope the themed framework will change this!
 Jane

 2013/6/7, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  Agreed with what others have said - this is great news!
 
  Many of us know what a longstanding issue this has been - how to
 recognise
  and support the excellent work of the Catalan community in a way that
 fits
  within our structures.
  There have been many years of sometimes controversial debates about the
  role of Chapters etc. that have revolved around this as a case-in-point.
  So, I'm pleased to see that we now have a way of formally recogising
  Amicalthat is supportive of their work but also recognises the
  different
  circumstances of their situation.
 
  I look forward to seeing how the Thematic Organisations system will grow
  and also to seeing how we can develop the range of ways that individuals
  and groups can be recognised without it being a zero-sum-game.
 
  All in all, excellent news :-)
 
  -Liam
 
  wittylama.com
  Peace, love  metadata
 
 
  On 7 June 2013 13:09, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Finally! It took us some years but I'm glad that it definitely happened!
  :)
 
  Congratulations to everyone that made it possible, and I hope the great
  work done in Catalonia extends to Valencia too :)
 
  Micru
 
  On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   The WMF Board has recognized Amical Wikimedia as the first Wikimedia
   Thematic Organization.  Please join me in celebrating their work and
   success!
  
  
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/Recognition_of_Amical_Wikimedia
  
   This group was founded in 2008 as Associació Amical Viquipèdia,
   focused on Catalan language and culture. You may know them from the
   regular reports they have published to this list and to Meta for
   years.  They have organized dozens of successful cultural projects,
   including public events, research, GLAM initiatives, and content
   liberation.
   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia#Activities
  
   After first applying to become a chapter four years ago, Amical
   members later helped the Movement Roles working group develop new
   models for affiliation, and were the first to apply to be a thematic
   organization. Gomà and Arnaugir, the founder and current chair of
   Amical, attended the Milan conference and shared their projects and
   their future plans.  An in-person meeting there helped to resolve the
   remaining bureaucratic steps in the process of becoming a thematic
   organization.
  
   Thank you to everyone from AffCom and Amical who have been involved
   throughout this process, particularly Bence and Bishakha for their
   guidance since the first movement roles discussions, and Gomà and
   María for their facilitation.
  
   Regards,
   Sam, on behalf of the Board
  
  
   == About Thematic Organizations ==
   Thematic Organizations are one of the new affiliation models created
   last year, to recognize organizations that have consistently done
   interesting work with partners and in outreach, both online and
   offline.  They are meant to be well-established and persistent
   organizations, focused on a common theme.
  
   The review and approval process for Thematic Organizations is similar
   to that for chapters.  A list of groups considering becoming thematic
   orgs can be found on Meta.
   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Thematic_organizations
  
  
 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliation_models/Thematic_Organizations
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

2013-06-07 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
 Ken Snider..welcome!


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Sydney sydney.po...@gmail.com wrote:

 Welcome to Ken.

 It's great to see someone with his experience joining Wikimedia Foundation.
 Sydney Poore
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  FYI :)
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org
  Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM
  Subject: Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations
  To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
 
 
  Hello all,
 
  I’m delighted to announce that Ken Snider is joining the Wikimedia
  operations team. He will start as an international contractor working
  remotely from Toronto, Canada on June 10, and will be visiting SF in
  the week of June 17. We’re currently in the process of seeking work
  authorization in the United States in the Director of TechOps
  position.
 
  CT has graciously agreed to support the ops leadership transition
  full-time through June, and part-time through July. We’ll be starting
  the handover while Ken is working remotely.
 
  A bit more about Ken: Ken was apparently genetically predisposed to
  become a sysadmin since he joined one of Canada’s first large ISPs,
  Primus, straight out of school in 1997 and helped build their
  infrastructure til 2001. He then joined a startup called OpenCOLA in
  2001 which was co-founded by Cory Doctorow and developed early P2P
  precursors to tools like BitTorrent and Steam. It’s best known today
  for the development of an open source (GPL’d) cola recipe which is
  still in use (more than 150,000 cans sold if Wikipedia is to be
  believed).
 
  Ken got involved in one of Cory’s pet projects, BoingBoing.net which
  some of you may have heard of ;-), and has been their sysadmin since
  2003. After a stint from 2001-2005 at DataWire, Ken became Director of
  Tech Ops at Federated Media, a role he held from 2005-2012.
 
  Federated Media is an ad network that was founded to support high
  traffic blogs and sites that want to stay independent of large
  publishers, with a network that supports more than 1B requests/day.
 
  One of the unusual challenges at FM was that the company grew through
  acquisitions of various blogging and publishing networks. This led to
  the challenge of integrating very heterogeneous operations and
  engineering infrastructure, including multiple geographically
  distributed ops teams and data-center locations. As DTO, Ken led these
  efforts, such as OS standardization, development of a unified
  deployment infrastructure, etc. Ken also ensured that the operations
  group partnered effectively with the various engineering teams
  developing site features and enhancements.
 
  I want to again take this opportunity to thank CT Woo for his tireless
  operations leadership since December 2010. I’d also like to thank
  everyone who’s participated in the Director of TechOps search process.
 
  Please join me in welcoming Ken to the Wikimedia Foundation and the
  community. :-)
 
  All best,
 
  Erik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New proposal for a wiki Project!

2013-06-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Kevin Behrens, 18/02/2013 17:33:

Hello!

I have started a proposal for a new wiki project: WikiLang 
(meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLang). It is about endangered languages and 
language documentation/decipherment. It is a very important step in order to 
save our linguistic diversity which is ongoing faster than the extinction of 
animals. Most of our languages are highly endangered and there are pessimistic 
estimations that by 2100 90% of them will be extinct. So, please support the 
project and vote for it and/or give your feedback! (I for myself belong to a 
language minority and I can tell how important this is.) Thanks a lot!


For months I failed to see the rationale of the proposal, now I think I 
got it. 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:WikiLangdiff=prevoldid=5544573
It's about an unstructured collection of content and discussions, so 
instead of spending time requesting a Wikimedia project I personally 
suggest you to create a Wikia wiki and/or to ask 
http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/ a wiki under their domain, 
integrated with their forums or whatever they use.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hello again,

I have started it some time ago to collect all important dates in the
movement, and always wanted to invite more people to contribute and to use
it: And here it is. :)

It is supposed to show dates from different categories:

* events: events with an international focus/audience with relevance for
the Wikimedia movement (Wikimania, Wikimedia Conference, international
Hackathons, cross-country Wiki conferences etc.; but also Creative Commons
Summit or OKcon). I’d rather not add local events with a restricted
audience.
* deadlines: Deadlines for several processes and applications like FDC
deadlines, closing dates for contests or Call for Papers
* dates: start (and if applicable) also end dates for activities,
elections, office hours, metrics meetings, software deployments (only the
official/big rollouts, like VisualEditor or Notifications)
* what else? Any suggestion is welcome!

It’s still in an alpha stage and I am happy to have more people
contributing to it. I would also like to enhance the concept a little (e.g.
more “categories”, use different colours, DOs and DON'Ts) and discuss which
types of dates it should contain and which better not – to keep it clear
and simple .

I am glad that a few people have already expressed their interest and would
love to coordinate this tiny project together with you to make it more
useful for all of us. :)

[As it is a Google Calendar, you can embed it in any web page (there is an
html code for that), or use it in your private calendar via csv / iCal]

Warmest regards (yes, spring has finally arrived in Berlin!)

Nicole


On 6 June 2013 21:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ooh, I didn't know you were running that calendar! Is it for any kind of
 Wikimedia-related event?
 ,
 -- Phoebe


 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de
 wrote:

  I don't know if this is exactly what you mean, but probably this google
  calendar can serve this purpose.
 
 
 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=wikimedia.de_8225p16hl9ibtgnjq068k4o...@group.calendar.google.com
 
  If anyone is interested in contributing to this calendar, let me know and
  I'll add you to the list of editors.
 
  We are trying to add all dates with relevance for the global movement to
  the calendar (deadlines, dates, events etc), but any help and input is
 very
  appreciated. :)
 
  Cheers,
  Nicole
 
 
 
 
  On 6 June 2013 20:39, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 
   Hi Praveena,
  
   is there a general google agenda feed where this kind of meetings could
  be
   mentioned/announced too? In the past office hours were scheduled that
 way
   (unfortunately someone decided to discontinue that apparently), and
 that
   was very helpful.
  
   Lodewijk
  
  
   2013/6/6 Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.org
  
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes.
   
   
   
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Praveena Maharaj 
   pmaha...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
   
 Dear all,

 The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday,
 June
   6,
2013 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office
  on
irc.freenode.net and the meeting will be broadcast as a live YouTube
stream.

 The current structure of the meeting is:
 * Review of key metrics including the monthly report card, but also
specialized reports and analytics* Review of financials* Welcoming
  recent
hires* Brief presentations on recent projects, with a focus on
 highest
priority initiatives* Update and QA with the Executive Director, if
available
 Please review
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for
further information about how to participate.

 We'll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.

 Thank you, Praveena


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 Development
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[Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Benjamin Chen
Hi,

Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to all 
language versions of Wikipedia, by blocking port 443 on two of our IPs. I was 
also told that service to Wikimedia Commons may be affected. Other projects, 
such as en.wikisource are not affected by this block (but they may still be 
subjected to keyword censoring on HTTP).

Compared to the previous short-lived half-day block, this time the block has 
been in place for a week and as usual no one knows if it will last for long.

Here is an article that has some explanation, some comments, and (their) 
opinions and suggestions for the Foundation.

https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2013/jun/wikipedia-drops-ball-china-not-too-late-make-amends

Regards,

Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]]


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Recognition of Amical Wikimedia

2013-06-07 Thread Florence Devouard

It took time... but eh ! you did it ! Congrats !

Flo

On 6/7/13 5:09 AM, David Cuenca wrote:

Finally! It took us some years but I'm glad that it definitely happened! :)

Congratulations to everyone that made it possible, and I hope the great
work done in Catalonia extends to Valencia too :)

Micru

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote:


Hello,

The WMF Board has recognized Amical Wikimedia as the first Wikimedia
Thematic Organization.  Please join me in celebrating their work and
success!

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/Recognition_of_Amical_Wikimedia

This group was founded in 2008 as Associació Amical Viquipèdia,
focused on Catalan language and culture. You may know them from the
regular reports they have published to this list and to Meta for
years.  They have organized dozens of successful cultural projects,
including public events, research, GLAM initiatives, and content
liberation.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia#Activities

After first applying to become a chapter four years ago, Amical
members later helped the Movement Roles working group develop new
models for affiliation, and were the first to apply to be a thematic
organization. Gomà and Arnaugir, the founder and current chair of
Amical, attended the Milan conference and shared their projects and
their future plans.  An in-person meeting there helped to resolve the
remaining bureaucratic steps in the process of becoming a thematic
organization.

Thank you to everyone from AffCom and Amical who have been involved
throughout this process, particularly Bence and Bishakha for their
guidance since the first movement roles discussions, and Gomà and
María for their facilitation.

Regards,
Sam, on behalf of the Board


== About Thematic Organizations ==
Thematic Organizations are one of the new affiliation models created
last year, to recognize organizations that have consistently done
interesting work with partners and in outreach, both online and
offline.  They are meant to be well-established and persistent
organizations, focused on a common theme.

The review and approval process for Thematic Organizations is similar
to that for chapters.  A list of groups considering becoming thematic
orgs can be found on Meta.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Thematic_organizations

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliation_models/Thematic_Organizations

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread Ted Chien
Glad to know we have such calendar for Wikimedia movements. It makes me
think that maybe we should have some places on meta or internal to host the
calendar links for all Wikimedia chapters?

We also use Google calendar for Wikimedia activities in Taiwan and the
calendar is been shared to Taiwan Open Source communities so we can do some
collaborations. It also let people know where and when to meet us if they
want to talk with us face to face.

Regards,
Ted Chien
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2013/6/7 下午8:46 於 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de 寫道:

 Hello again,

 I have started it some time ago to collect all important dates in the
 movement, and always wanted to invite more people to contribute and to use
 it: And here it is. :)

 It is supposed to show dates from different categories:

 * events: events with an international focus/audience with relevance for
 the Wikimedia movement (Wikimania, Wikimedia Conference, international
 Hackathons, cross-country Wiki conferences etc.; but also Creative Commons
 Summit or OKcon). I’d rather not add local events with a restricted
 audience.
 * deadlines: Deadlines for several processes and applications like FDC
 deadlines, closing dates for contests or Call for Papers
 * dates: start (and if applicable) also end dates for activities,
 elections, office hours, metrics meetings, software deployments (only the
 official/big rollouts, like VisualEditor or Notifications)
 * what else? Any suggestion is welcome!

 It’s still in an alpha stage and I am happy to have more people
 contributing to it. I would also like to enhance the concept a little (e.g.
 more “categories”, use different colours, DOs and DON'Ts) and discuss which
 types of dates it should contain and which better not – to keep it clear
 and simple .

 I am glad that a few people have already expressed their interest and would
 love to coordinate this tiny project together with you to make it more
 useful for all of us. :)

 [As it is a Google Calendar, you can embed it in any web page (there is an
 html code for that), or use it in your private calendar via csv / iCal]

 Warmest regards (yes, spring has finally arrived in Berlin!)

 Nicole


 On 6 June 2013 21:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ooh, I didn't know you were running that calendar! Is it for any kind of
  Wikimedia-related event?
  ,
  -- Phoebe
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de
  wrote:
 
   I don't know if this is exactly what you mean, but probably this google
   calendar can serve this purpose.
  
  
  
 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=wikimedia.de_8225p16hl9ibtgnjq068k4o...@group.calendar.google.com
  
   If anyone is interested in contributing to this calendar, let me know
 and
   I'll add you to the list of editors.
  
   We are trying to add all dates with relevance for the global movement
 to
   the calendar (deadlines, dates, events etc), but any help and input is
  very
   appreciated. :)
  
   Cheers,
   Nicole
  
  
  
  
   On 6 June 2013 20:39, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
  
Hi Praveena,
   
is there a general google agenda feed where this kind of meetings
 could
   be
mentioned/announced too? In the past office hours were scheduled that
  way
(unfortunately someone decided to discontinue that apparently), and
  that
was very helpful.
   
Lodewijk
   
   
2013/6/6 Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.org
   
 REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes.



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pmaha...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday,
  June
6,
 2013 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is
 #wikimedia-office
   on
 irc.freenode.net and the meeting will be broadcast as a live
 YouTube
 stream.
 
  The current structure of the meeting is:
  * Review of key metrics including the monthly report card, but
 also
 specialized reports and analytics* Review of financials* Welcoming
   recent
 hires* Brief presentations on recent projects, with a focus on
  highest
 priority initiatives* Update and QA with the Executive Director,
 if
 available
  Please review
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetingsfor
 further information about how to participate.
 
  We'll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.
 
  Thank you, Praveena
 
 
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  Development
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Matthew Roth
We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they
will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or in
what format.

This is the content of our response:

The Wikimedia Foundation doesn’t hold any readers of our projects in any
less regard than others. Our mission is to bring the knowledge contained in
the Wikimedia projects to everyone on the planet. There is no strategic
consideration around how we can make one or another language project more
accessible or readable in one part of the world or another. We do not have
control over how a national government operates its censorship system. We
also do not work with any national censorship system to limit access to
project knowledge in any way.

It is worth noting the blog post makes some incorrect assumptions about
Wikimedia culture - including incorrect titling of some Wikimedia
Foundation staff (e.g. Sue Gardner is the Executive Director of the
Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that operates Wikipedia -- Wikipedia
is written by tens of thousands of volunteers and has no director and no
hierarchy of editors). There is also an incorrect assertion that Jimmy
Wales has a direct role in working with our staff in making changes to core
infrastructure. Of course Jimmy plays a role in the conversation, but he is
participating in the conversation along with anyone else from the volunteer
editor community.

On the larger topic, the implementation of HTTPS by default across all
Wikimedia sites for all readers and users is non-trivial, and a
conversation is ongoing within the Wikimedia Foundation and within the
community about how we might make this possible. We do have plans to
eventually enable HTTPS as the default, but it's difficult and we're taking
steps toward this goal over time.

Our first step is to force HTTPS for logged-in users. The next step will be
to expand our SSL cluster and to do some testing on a wiki-by-wiki basis
with anonymous HTTPS. At some point later we'll attempt to enable HTTPS for
anons on all projects. Then we'll look at enabling HSTS, so that browsers
know they should always use HTTPS to access our sites.

We've only had proper native HTTPS for about a year and a half. We
attempted to force HTTPS by default for logged-in users last month and
rolled it back. We'll be attempting this again soon. So, it's something
we're actively working on. We've also hard-enabled HTTPS on all of our
private wikis and have soft-enabled HTTPS on a single wiki (Uzbek
Wikipedia), when it was requested by the volunteer editor community there.





On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:50 AM, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://upload.wikimedia.org also blocked
 Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/
 My blog: http://shizhao.org
 twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao

 [[zh:User:Shizhao]]


 2013/6/7 Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to
 all language versions of Wikipedia, by blocking port 443 on two of our IPs.
 I was also told that service to Wikimedia Commons may be affected. Other
 projects, such as en.wikisource are not affected by this block (but they
 may still be subjected to keyword censoring on HTTP).
 
  Compared to the previous short-lived half-day block, this time the block
 has been in place for a week and as usual no one knows if it will last for
 long.
 
  Here is an article that has some explanation, some comments, and (their)
 opinions and suggestions for the Foundation.
 
 
 https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2013/jun/wikipedia-drops-ball-china-not-too-late-make-amends
 
  Regards,
 
  Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]]
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Milos Rancic
I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
years.

If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
Unfinished projects section.

== On my motivation ==

In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
going down and down.

I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
the movement.

But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
it enough. That was about my motivation.

I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
enough motivation to do anything.

I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

== Wikimedia impact on me ==

I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
not comparable to anything else.

And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

== Unfinished projects ==

This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
projects are very important.

* First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
have Wikipedia edition in their language. And if you ask why Wikimedia
movement should do that, it's because there is no other relevant
international body capable to do that. That makes Wikimedia's position
unique and with large amount of historical responsibility. I will
share my research with anyone willing to work on this issue.

* Gamification. Mostly because the lack of my motivation, the project
Wikichievements didn't start yet. It's actually in the very initial
phase. Wikimedia Serbia and Wikimedia DC would do that. If you are
interested in that, please contact Kirill Lokshin from WM DC.
Gamification and social features are extremely important in making
Wikimedia movement attractive to young generations again.

== Wikimedia movement *is* important! ==

Wikimedia movement is not just important, it is the best try of our
civilization to create a global movement based on completely different
principles than anything else before. It's the best chance of our
civilization to survive. And it's up to you to use the chance or not.
If Wikimedia movement fails, I am sure that the similar chance would
appear once in the future. But not soon and maybe too late.

Every Wikimedian is a highly important person, likely more important
than many heads of states. And that importance brings high
responsibility to keep and develop Wikimedia projects and the
movement.

* * *

Thanks for all the fish! It is pleasure to know all of you! I won't
leave wikimeida-l for a couple of days. It's not nice to leave the
communication immediately. And you have my email; some of you other
means of communication with me. It will be always a pleasure to me if
I 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/7 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com

 I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

Dear Milos,

I cannot even begin to think how much do I owe you. You taught me a
lot about languages and about Wikimedia and the things around it.
Thanks in large part to you I became much more involved in the
movement than I ever imagined I would be, and it literally changed my
life.

Of course, your contributions went way beyond that, but I shall only
speak for myself.

Thank you so much for everything.

I very sincerely wish you a lot of success with your future endeavors
and I'm sure that we'll keep in touch.

--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Sarah Stierch
Milos -

What an emotional and touching letter. I know it's a hard decision to not
only leave the movement, but to know who you want to let know and who you
want to not let know about leaving - and I am glad you made the decision to
share your honest and emotional declaration with us.

As someone supportive of Indigenous languages having their own wiki spaces
for their own survival and development, I really do hope that more work
will proceed regarding languages and the work you have done. There have
been groups forming, including the work Wikimedia Canada has done, about
Indigenous and rare languages. Heck, one of the projects I have been
working on has had numerous articles written in Nahuatl,[1] something that
blows my mind. So things are happening, and thank you for your passion and
work regarding that.

Also, I'm happy to know the gamification project is proceeding and WM DC is
helping to lead that. I agree that it's important to see this happen, and
it's shown successful in the Teahouse with badges. Thank you also for your
work on that and I do hope your Wikimedia legacy will be preserved in the
successful development of that project.

I understand about being able to write a book about how Wikimedia has
changed my life. I look forward to seeing where your life leads next, and I
hope you won't stop contributing to Wikipedia as an editor, at least :)

Thank you for everything you have, and continue to do,

Sarah

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahuatl

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

 If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
 Unfinished projects section.

 == On my motivation ==

 In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
 movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
 culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
 going down and down.

 I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
 was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
 wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
 responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
 responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
 last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
 the movement.

 But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
 struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
 important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
 steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
 it enough. That was about my motivation.

 I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
 movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
 some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
 motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
 Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

 I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
 important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
 for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
 first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
 Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
 enough motivation to do anything.

 I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
 the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
 spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
 elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

 For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
 appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
 that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

 == Wikimedia impact on me ==

 I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
 say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

 When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
 This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
 strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
 formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
 not comparable to anything else.

 And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

 == Unfinished projects ==

 This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
 projects are very important.

 * First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
 less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
 3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
 have Wikipedia edition in their language. And 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Santi Navarro
Milosh, thank you very much for your work during these ten years, and good
luck in your life and in the future. When you want to come back, you
already know that this is your home.

Best wishes!

-- 
Santiago Navarro
Wikimedia España
http://www.wikimedia.org.es/


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Huib Laurens
Milos,

Again, I'm sorry to see you leave. I would like to thank you, thank you
very much for all the things you have done!

I loved to work with you in the LangCom, and I believe I learned a lot. And
I hope our paths will cross again someday.

Huib


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

 If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
 Unfinished projects section.

 == On my motivation ==

 In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
 movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
 culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
 going down and down.

 I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
 was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
 wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
 responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
 responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
 last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
 the movement.

 But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
 struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
 important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
 steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
 it enough. That was about my motivation.

 I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
 movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
 some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
 motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
 Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

 I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
 important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
 for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
 first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
 Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
 enough motivation to do anything.

 I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
 the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
 spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
 elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

 For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
 appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
 that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

 == Wikimedia impact on me ==

 I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
 say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

 When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
 This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
 strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
 formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
 not comparable to anything else.

 And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

 == Unfinished projects ==

 This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
 projects are very important.

 * First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
 less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
 3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
 have Wikipedia edition in their language. And if you ask why Wikimedia
 movement should do that, it's because there is no other relevant
 international body capable to do that. That makes Wikimedia's position
 unique and with large amount of historical responsibility. I will
 share my research with anyone willing to work on this issue.

 * Gamification. Mostly because the lack of my motivation, the project
 Wikichievements didn't start yet. It's actually in the very initial
 phase. Wikimedia Serbia and Wikimedia DC would do that. If you are
 interested in that, please contact Kirill Lokshin from WM DC.
 Gamification and social features are extremely important in making
 Wikimedia movement attractive to young generations again.

 == Wikimedia movement *is* important! ==

 Wikimedia movement is not just important, it is the best try of our
 civilization to create a global movement based on completely different
 principles than anything else before. It's the best chance of our
 civilization to survive. And it's up to you to use the chance or not.
 If Wikimedia movement fails, I am sure that the similar chance would
 appear once in the future. But not soon and maybe too late.

 Every Wikimedian is a highly important person, likely more important
 than many heads 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Florence Devouard
From time to time, I think of a wikimedian and say to myself oh, we 
have not seen this one much around these days. Further checking, the 
person quietly slipped away, few noticed the departure and we had no 
opportunity to say thank you and stay safe and happy in this other 
future. It is a bit sad.


Hence, my appreciation for you to take the time to write these words.
Thank you for your presence and work the past years. Best of luck for 
the future. Get back in touch if needed.


Flo

On 6/7/13 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:

I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
years.

If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
Unfinished projects section.

== On my motivation ==

In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
going down and down.

I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
the movement.

But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
it enough. That was about my motivation.

I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
enough motivation to do anything.

I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

== Wikimedia impact on me ==

I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
not comparable to anything else.

And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

== Unfinished projects ==

This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
projects are very important.

* First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
have Wikipedia edition in their language. And if you ask why Wikimedia
movement should do that, it's because there is no other relevant
international body capable to do that. That makes Wikimedia's position
unique and with large amount of historical responsibility. I will
share my research with anyone willing to work on this issue.

* Gamification. Mostly because the lack of my motivation, the project
Wikichievements didn't start yet. It's actually in the very initial
phase. Wikimedia Serbia and Wikimedia DC would do that. If you are
interested in that, please contact Kirill Lokshin from WM DC.
Gamification and social features are extremely important in making
Wikimedia movement attractive to young generations again.

== Wikimedia movement *is* important! ==

Wikimedia movement is not just important, it is the best try of our
civilization to create a global movement based on completely different
principles than anything else before. It's the best chance of our
civilization to survive. And it's up to you to use the chance or not.
If Wikimedia movement fails, I am sure that the similar chance would
appear once 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
 == Unfinished projects ==

Oh, and I knew that there were three unfinished projects, but I forgot
the last one.

Wikimedia movement isn't staying well with formal diplomacy. No of the
Wikimedia organizations participated even in the global events close
to Wikimedia's interests, like, for example, Internet Governance Forum
is.

I connected Ting, Bishakha and Bence a couple of days ago with the
organization DiploFoundation [1], which is willing to create the
connection between the Wikimedia movement and formal diplomacy. The
right person to contact in relation to that issue is a Board member of
Wikimedia Serbia, Sanja Pavlovic sanja.pavlo...@vikimedija.org.

[1] http://www.diplomacy.edu/

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 06/07/2013 12:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
 I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

« Il est impossible d’aimer une seconde fois ce qu’on a véritablement
cessé d’aimer. »
— François de La Rochefoucauld

Thank you, Milos, for ten years of dedication.  Like all others who
drift away to new interests, you leave behind a legacy that leaves us
all richer than when you joined.

-- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Benjamin Chen
On 8 Jun, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they
 will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or in
 what format.

Great. That's really fast response.

On the issue itself, we haven't seen any large scale blocks for years (around 
the time since last time Jimbo visited some Chinese official more than 4 or 5 
years ago I think).

The secure.wikimedia domain was blocked long ago, but they waited till now to 
block HTTPS, after 3 years? (I can't remember when it was enabled). I wonder 
how long it took for them to realise.

It is suggested that this could be a long term block similar to how 
secure.wikimedia was blocked - for HTTPS they have no control over content, so 
they are simply blocking it all. For HTTP they are still performing deep 
package inspection (means content censoring), so since they can filter what the 
Chinese people can see, it's likely that they'll leave HTTP alone.


Regards,

Benjamin Chen / [[User:Bencmq]]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Milos, lets call it an extended sabbatical instead! You never know when you
might come back, and you are always welcome :)


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:

 On 06/07/2013 12:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
  I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
  bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
  the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
  many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
  years.

 « Il est impossible d’aimer une seconde fois ce qu’on a véritablement
 cessé d’aimer. »
 — François de La Rochefoucauld

 Thank you, Milos, for ten years of dedication.  Like all others who
 drift away to new interests, you leave behind a legacy that leaves us
 all richer than when you joined.

 -- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Milos, lets call it an extended sabbatical instead! You never know when you
 might come back, and you are always welcome :)


Indeed :) Some sabbaticals are longer than others, but I don't think a
person ever stops being a Wikimedian, and the door is always open!

Florence said what was on my mind -- thank you for writing this note. I
appreciate it as well, and appreciate having gotten to know you, and your
ideas and passion for projects, over the past years.

Like you, this is my 10-year anniversary in Wikimedia, and I've been
reflecting on it quite a bit. A decade is a long time, and spending it
wrapped up in Wikimedia is without a doubt life-changing. For me, it has
been life-changing largely because of all of the remarkable people I've
gotten to meet -- and that definitely includes a certain hacker from
Belgrade.

To exciting future journeys, my friend!
-- phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Patricio Lorente
Thank you, Milos, for your dedication and commitment for all these
years. I'm sure we will meet somewhere in the near future; maybe you
are leaving the Wikimedia movement but our concerns and wishes will
continue being the same.

I wish you the best, see you around,

   Patricio

2013/6/7 Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org:
 Milos, lets call it an extended sabbatical instead! You never know when you
 might come back, and you are always welcome :)


 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:

 On 06/07/2013 12:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
  I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
  bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
  the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
  many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
  years.

 « Il est impossible d’aimer une seconde fois ce qu’on a véritablement
 cessé d’aimer. »
 — François de La Rochefoucauld

 Thank you, Milos, for ten years of dedication.  Like all others who
 drift away to new interests, you leave behind a legacy that leaves us
 all richer than when you joined.

 -- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread Lodewijk
Hmm, I found the office hours helpful because those were theoretically all
relevant to me. The overview you're making is unfortunately more aimed
towards chapter offices etc, and includes a lot of events which are out of
reach anyway. Having an Overview of All has its merits, but it does mean I
will not include it in my google calendar because it would float the whole
thing too much.

Somehow it would be nice if there would be a menu selection option - what
kind of parts do you want to receive. But that is much harder to maintain I
guess...

Lodewijk


2013/6/7 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de

 Hello again,

 I have started it some time ago to collect all important dates in the
 movement, and always wanted to invite more people to contribute and to use
 it: And here it is. :)

 It is supposed to show dates from different categories:

 * events: events with an international focus/audience with relevance for
 the Wikimedia movement (Wikimania, Wikimedia Conference, international
 Hackathons, cross-country Wiki conferences etc.; but also Creative Commons
 Summit or OKcon). I’d rather not add local events with a restricted
 audience.
 * deadlines: Deadlines for several processes and applications like FDC
 deadlines, closing dates for contests or Call for Papers
 * dates: start (and if applicable) also end dates for activities,
 elections, office hours, metrics meetings, software deployments (only the
 official/big rollouts, like VisualEditor or Notifications)
 * what else? Any suggestion is welcome!

 It’s still in an alpha stage and I am happy to have more people
 contributing to it. I would also like to enhance the concept a little (e.g.
 more “categories”, use different colours, DOs and DON'Ts) and discuss which
 types of dates it should contain and which better not – to keep it clear
 and simple .

 I am glad that a few people have already expressed their interest and would
 love to coordinate this tiny project together with you to make it more
 useful for all of us. :)

 [As it is a Google Calendar, you can embed it in any web page (there is an
 html code for that), or use it in your private calendar via csv / iCal]

 Warmest regards (yes, spring has finally arrived in Berlin!)

 Nicole


 On 6 June 2013 21:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ooh, I didn't know you were running that calendar! Is it for any kind of
  Wikimedia-related event?
  ,
  -- Phoebe
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de
  wrote:
 
   I don't know if this is exactly what you mean, but probably this google
   calendar can serve this purpose.
  
  
  
 
 https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=wikimedia.de_8225p16hl9ibtgnjq068k4o...@group.calendar.google.com
  
   If anyone is interested in contributing to this calendar, let me know
 and
   I'll add you to the list of editors.
  
   We are trying to add all dates with relevance for the global movement
 to
   the calendar (deadlines, dates, events etc), but any help and input is
  very
   appreciated. :)
  
   Cheers,
   Nicole
  
  
  
  
   On 6 June 2013 20:39, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
  
Hi Praveena,
   
is there a general google agenda feed where this kind of meetings
 could
   be
mentioned/announced too? In the past office hours were scheduled that
  way
(unfortunately someone decided to discontinue that apparently), and
  that
was very helpful.
   
Lodewijk
   
   
2013/6/6 Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.org
   
 REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes.



 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Praveena Maharaj 
pmaha...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday,
  June
6,
 2013 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is
 #wikimedia-office
   on
 irc.freenode.net and the meeting will be broadcast as a live
 YouTube
 stream.
 
  The current structure of the meeting is:
  * Review of key metrics including the monthly report card, but
 also
 specialized reports and analytics* Review of financials* Welcoming
   recent
 hires* Brief presentations on recent projects, with a focus on
  highest
 priority initiatives* Update and QA with the Executive Director,
 if
 available
  Please review
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetingsfor
 further information about how to participate.
 
  We'll post the video recording publicly after the meeting.
 
  Thank you, Praveena
 
 
  --
  Praveena Maharaj
  Executive Assistant to the VP of Engineering and Product
  Development
  +1 (415) 839 6885 ext. 6689
  www.wikimedia.org
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Matthew Roth
Hi all,
I wanted to share a clarifying email from Ryan Lane in WMF Ops. He's
working through the challenges of HTTPS from the Foundation's end.

Please see below for more details:

-Matthew

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Lane rl...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 How does it impact people? Short answer: it shouldn't. Long answer: It may
 make the site slightly slower due to increased network latency, and it is
 slightly more computationally expensive, which may make the site slower on
 computers that are underpowered.

 How does it impact the WMF? It depends. For enabling it for logged-in
 users, or for those that use HTTPS-anywhere? It doesn't affect us, because
 that's the state we're in right now. For making HTTPS the default for
 anonymous users? We need to change how our infrastructure works. We may
 need to buy additional hardware. We definitely need to do some engineering
 work.

 How does it impact the government's ability to apply censorship? Short
 answer: it doesn't. It affects their ability to eavesdrop on people. Long
 answer: It depends on how sophisticated the government's censorship program
 is. In some countries the government's censorship program can be totally
 bypassed using HTTPS. China's program is very sophisticated. The best HTTPS
 is going to help the Chinese is to give them a reasonable amount of
 protection against eavesdropping. It's still possible for China to
 eavesdrop, even when users are using HTTPS, if China has subverted any of
 the Certificate Authorities trusted by our browsers.

 Are there negative sides of each choice? Yes. Not providing HTTPS means
 that users will always be subject to eavesdropping, which in very
 authoritative countries could mean they are imprisoned or killed for
 reading or editing Wikipedia, depending on what they are reading or
 editing. Realistically not making HTTPS the default is similar to not
 providing it for all intents and purposes. Search engines will bring people
 to the HTTP version of the site, not the HTTPS version so the vast majority
 of users will still be able to be eavesdropped on. Making HTTPS the default
 also has negatives. A very small minority of users don't have HTTPS
 support, or their computers are so old that it makes the site unusably
 slow. That's a *very* small percentage of users, though. Additionally, it
 makes the site slower for everyone, which may cause a decrease in viewers
 and/or editors.

 This is likely the most non-technical way I can explain things. I hope it
 helps!



On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Benjamin Chen bencmqw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 Jun, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they
  will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or
 in
  what format.

 Great. That's really fast response.

 On the issue itself, we haven't seen any large scale blocks for years
 (around the time since last time Jimbo visited some Chinese official more
 than 4 or 5 years ago I think).

 The secure.wikimedia domain was blocked long ago, but they waited till now
 to block HTTPS, after 3 years? (I can't remember when it was enabled). I
 wonder how long it took for them to realise.

 It is suggested that this could be a long term block similar to how
 secure.wikimedia was blocked - for HTTPS they have no control over content,
 so they are simply blocking it all. For HTTP they are still performing deep
 package inspection (means content censoring), so since they can filter what
 the Chinese people can see, it's likely that they'll leave HTTP alone.


 Regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Craig Franklin
Milos,

Thanks for these words and I am sorry to see you leave.  I think everyone
agrees that the entire Wikimedia movement owes you a debt of gratitude for
a decade of great work.  Hopefully after some time away you'll miss us and
be back, but if not, whatever group you decide to involve yourself with
next will be very fortunate indeed!

Regards,
Craig Franklin


On 8 June 2013 02:32, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

 If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
 Unfinished projects section.

 == On my motivation ==

 In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
 movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
 culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
 going down and down.

 I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
 was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
 wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
 responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
 responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
 last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
 the movement.

 But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
 struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
 important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
 steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
 it enough. That was about my motivation.

 I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
 movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
 some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
 motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
 Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

 I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
 important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
 for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
 first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
 Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
 enough motivation to do anything.

 I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
 the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
 spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
 elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

 For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
 appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
 that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

 == Wikimedia impact on me ==

 I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
 say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

 When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
 This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
 strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
 formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
 not comparable to anything else.

 And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

 == Unfinished projects ==

 This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
 projects are very important.

 * First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
 less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
 3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
 have Wikipedia edition in their language. And if you ask why Wikimedia
 movement should do that, it's because there is no other relevant
 international body capable to do that. That makes Wikimedia's position
 unique and with large amount of historical responsibility. I will
 share my research with anyone willing to work on this issue.

 * Gamification. Mostly because the lack of my motivation, the project
 Wikichievements didn't start yet. It's actually in the very initial
 phase. Wikimedia Serbia and Wikimedia DC would do that. If you are
 interested in that, please contact Kirill Lokshin from WM DC.
 Gamification and social features are extremely important in making
 Wikimedia movement attractive to young generations again.

 == Wikimedia movement *is* important! ==

 Wikimedia movement is not just important, it is the best try of our
 civilization to create a global movement based on completely different
 principles than anything else before. It's the best chance of our
 civilization to survive. And it's up to you to use the chance or not.
 If Wikimedia movement fails, I am sure that the similar chance would
 appear once in the future. But not soon 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread Juergen Fenn
2013/6/7 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de:

 [As it is a Google Calendar, you can embed it in any web page (there is an
 html code for that), or use it in your private calendar via csv / iCal]

I wonder how long this will remain to be so? There was talk about
Google lately  to close the free calendar APIs? So you might like to
use a free replacement instead.

 Warmest regards (yes, spring has finally arrived in Berlin!)

... and so it has at Frankfurt, too. It was about time ... ;)

Regards,
Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Samuel Klein
Milos!  How I will miss your honest reflections and monologues.  I am
most sorry to read this; and hope you will not be a stranger to the
wikis, or the many other paths of freeing and sharing knowledge.

Thank you and thank you for your efforts and insights, and the many
remarkable people who you personally introduced to the projects.
I hope you do write that book one day.

Sam.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Craig Franklin
cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:
 Milos,

 Thanks for these words and I am sorry to see you leave.  I think everyone
 agrees that the entire Wikimedia movement owes you a debt of gratitude for
 a decade of great work.  Hopefully after some time away you'll miss us and
 be back, but if not, whatever group you decide to involve yourself with
 next will be very fortunate indeed!

 Regards,
 Craig Franklin


 On 8 June 2013 02:32, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a
 bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after
 the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to
 many of you the explanation for leaving the movement after almost 10
 years.

 If you want to skip the story of my motivation, continue with
 Unfinished projects section.

 == On my motivation ==

 In short, I am struggling with the motivation to work inside of the
 movement for almost two years. My participation in Haifa was the
 culmination of my Wikimedia engagement and everything after it was
 going down and down.

 I was struggling hard. I didn't want to leave the movement because I
 was feeling responsible for a number of issues. As time went, as I
 wasn't taking any new responsibility, the level of feeling
 responsible was lowering and lowering. My last really big
 responsibility was to push the creation of Wikimedia Serbia Office
 last fall. After that I felt that there is no need for me inside of
 the movement.

 But I wanted to stay, I wanted it hardly! For at least two years I was
 struggling with my steward activity and although I know that I am
 important to other stewards, I have problem to make one fucking
 steward action for months. And that wasn't about my free time. I have
 it enough. That was about my motivation.

 I was trying to find a way to motivate myself to participate in the
 movement. Alone or in cooperation with other Wikimedians, I started
 some not yet published projects. I thought that I could raise my
 motivation if I leave issues related to the chapters and I left
 Chapters committee. But it didn't help.

 I was on Amsterdam Hackathon and talking with Erik about one more
 important Wikimedia issue: thousands of languages which are waiting
 for their editions of Wikimedia projects. He was encouraging; for the
 first time I got clearly positive response. But it wasn't enough.
 Instead of enthusiastically working on the project, I just didn't have
 enough motivation to do anything.

 I thought that becoming a Board member could raise my motivation. At
 the beginning, I was actually very enthusiastic. But last two weeks I
 spent much more time in being worried about the possibility to be
 elected than about thinking about how to be elected.

 For a number of times I was thinking to quit, but this time I had
 appropriate personal trigger and finally got courage to admit myself
 that there is nothing which would change my motivation.

 == Wikimedia impact on me ==

 I've just realized that if I am writing this kind of email, I should
 say something about Wikimedia impact on me.

 When I first edited Wikipedia I was less than a month older than 30.
 This November I will be 40. The whole decade of my life was under the
 strong influence of Wikimedia movement. I spent intellectually
 formative years inside of Wikimedia and it changed me a lot, probably
 not comparable to anything else.

 And I could write a book about how Wikipedia and Wikimedia influenced me.

 == Unfinished projects ==

 This is important. I am leaving some things unfinished and both of the
 projects are very important.

 * First, languages. There are more than 6000 languages and there are
 less than 300 language editions of Wikipedia. It is likely that all of
 3000 languages with more than 10,000 of speakers would survive if they
 have Wikipedia edition in their language. And if you ask why Wikimedia
 movement should do that, it's because there is no other relevant
 international body capable to do that. That makes Wikimedia's position
 unique and with large amount of historical responsibility. I will
 share my research with anyone willing to work on this issue.

 * Gamification. Mostly because the lack of my motivation, the project
 Wikichievements didn't start yet. It's actually in the very initial
 phase. Wikimedia Serbia and Wikimedia DC would do that. If you are
 interested in that, please contact Kirill Lokshin from WM DC.
 Gamification and social features are extremely important in making
 Wikimedia movement 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF May 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, June 6, 18:00 UTC

2013-06-07 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Juergen Fenn
schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2013/6/7 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de:

 [As it is a Google Calendar, you can embed it in any web page (there is an
 html code for that), or use it in your private calendar via csv / iCal]

 I wonder how long this will remain to be so? There was talk about
 Google lately  to close the free calendar APIs? So you might like to
 use a free replacement instead.


FWIW, last year's discussion about Google Calendar on this list:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/279464



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Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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[Wikimedia-l] Solving the China censorship problem

2013-06-07 Thread James Salsman
If we transcoded the stoplist would we still trigger censorship in China?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_20#Mentioning_Wikipedia_on_Chinese_Skype_triggers_surveillance

All centralized authorities engage in misguided attempts to impose content
restrictions on what they percieve as threatening. Asking others for their
opinions on how to counteract these mistakes is an integral part of
building reference material in general, not just encyclopedias.

I see no better solution than to institute such requests.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Daniel Mietchen
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Yuri Astrakhan
yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Milos, lets call it an extended sabbatical instead! You never know when you
 might come back, and you are always welcome :)
I'd echo that and am looking forward to crossing paths again.

Daniel

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013-06-07 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks for everything, Milos. It's been a pleasure and I won't be at
all surprised to run into you again, if not in Wikimedia then in other
free culture circles. There are lots of unfinished projects indeed --
for me, seeing the movement tackle increasingly hard and complex
challenges successfully has been hugely motivating. I hope that if no
sooner, in a few years you'll check in on where things are and find
things so transformatively different to be re-energized to participate
again. :)

Erik

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