[Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Chris Keating
At Wikimania there was (not for the first time) discussion that not much support and advice there is available to Chapter board members. On Sunday afternoon a small group of us (myself, Markus Glaser, Michał Buczyński, Claudia Garad) met to work out how we could actually provide some training to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Sophie Österberg
Chris, Thank you for sharing this. I find this to be of great importance and a crucial step for our movement. I would be very happy to lead a session on programmes, and specifically Education Programmes, with its aims, current status and future. *Be Bold! Sophie Österberg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Sarah Stierch
I agree! Great idea and thanks for sharing it. I'm going to take a look at the meta page, and see if there is an opportunity for some WMF support - I know Program and Evaluation could be a great support for this potentially, and organizational structures from the Learning and Evaluation side.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Sophie Österberg
Sarah, I'd love to do that! Great! *Be Bold! Sophie Österberg sosterb...@wikimedia.org* *Every single contribution to Wikipedia is a gift of free knowledge to humanity. * 2013/8/13 Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com I agree! Great idea and thanks for sharing it. I'm going to take a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 August 2013 13:57, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: At Wikimania there was (not for the first time) discussion that not much support and advice there is available to Chapter board members. On Sunday afternoon a small group of us (myself, Markus Glaser, Michał Buczyński,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Ted Chien
I think this is a great idea. Since you said it will be organised in the early 2014, does it mean that the workshop will happen in Chapter Conference 2014? Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC One 2013/8/13 下午8:57 於 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com 寫道: At Wikimania there was (not for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 13/08/2013 15:47: Excellent and well done! It's pretty much standard in small charities that board members start off as enthusiasts on the topic, but who have *no idea* how to be a board member of a nonprofit. (Been there, done that, beg off all opportunities these days.) This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks for all the enthusiasm! Since you said it will be organised in the early 2014, does it mean that the workshop will happen in Chapter Conference 2014? Hi Ted, It could happen as a pre-meeting to the Wikimedia Conference, or it could be a stand-alone workshop earlier in the year. This

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Sophie Österberg
Chris, Would it be a person per board? Or whole boards and then fewer of them? If yes to the first one we should include how they can go back and train the rest of the board members so it gets properly disseminated. / sophie 2013/8/13 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com Thanks for all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Patricio Lorente
Thanks Chris (and Markus, Michał and Claudia) for this great initiative. It is needed and I'm sure it will be really appreciated from most Chapters, especially from those who are moving from executive boards to governance oriented boards. Patricio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Ilario Valdelli
In my opinion the real problem is that the volunteers have no time to offer being board members. Anyway people can be trained to manage a NGO or to be board members, there are some university masters to train NGOs managers. Regards On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Sophie Österberg
How would they have time to take a master's degree if they have no time to be volunteers? / sophie 2013/8/13 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com In my opinion the real problem is that the volunteers have no time to offer being board members. Anyway people can be trained to manage a NGO or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread David Richfield
This is a very good proposal, and I've forwarded it to the rest of our board for comment. Thanks, Chris! -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 August 2013 15:39, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: True. Even worse, many do not even try to be board members (or active chapter members, for that matter) because they (think they) don't have enough experience. It's crucial to ensure the availability of growing paths

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Indeed it seems to me possible to fill a whole master studies with the things a board member should know :-) but I know that he meant something different. It would be a could idea to have board members going to trainings to be a board member in the specific country where they live. A course

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-13 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: [...] It might lead to a glorious future, where we really create an open source system that allows everyone to write in every language and express a wide range of human thought. As much as I love this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013-08-13 Thread Oliver Keyes
We have weekend support - for core services, which constitute our MediaWiki instances. Git, however, is not a core service - as Max accurately notes, while it makes development finicky and frustrating, it doesn't impact on our core mission, which is to provide the sum of human knowledge, for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013-08-13 Thread Greg Grossmeier
A quick update I just sent to wikitech-l (where this conversation should be happening): http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071171.html Full text below: As you all are aware, git.wikimedia.org (powered by GitBlit) has been unstable. The root cause is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013-08-13 Thread Chris McKenna
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013, Oliver Keyes wrote: I'd like to think Engineering do a pretty good job at uptime for core services - when was the last time you saw Wikipedia down for any extended period of time? - regardless of what day of the week it is. Wikipedia uptime is certianly much better these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013-08-13 Thread Tim Starling
On 14/08/13 07:40, Oliver Keyes wrote: We have weekend support - for core services, which constitute our MediaWiki instances. Git, however, is not a core service - as Max accurately notes, while it makes development finicky and frustrating, I didn't know anyone used git.wikimedia.org. I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread Balázs Viczián
If you wish to educate board people, I think mailing lists and acronyms should not cover a full bulletpoint of the event because they should have that knowledge already I miss volunteer management in particular what is imo amongst the basic skills (it is totally different in many ways from