Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption
Le 31/08/2013 07:17, Erik Moeller a écrit : We can, of course, ask users in the affected countries. Given that this may lead to degradation or loss of access, users are likely to be opposed, and indeed, when plans to expand HTTPS usage were announced, a group of Chinese Wikipedians published an open letter asking for exemptions to be implemented: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%BC%BA%E5%88%B6%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E7%99%BB%E5%BD%95/openletter This was a big part of what drove the decision to implement exemptions. This attitude seems to be, on a first look, the most logical and respectful one. But, I want to be remember, that the risk perception is often not proportional *at all* to the risk itself. In daily life, many risks are suppressed because the imagination of a constant threat would paralyse all activities. So, this feedback from the Chinese community should be handled carefully. I tend myself to think that deploying HTTPS everywhere and force its usage is the best long term approach. However, this is without any doubt, a difficult dilemma. Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The next Wikimedia Conference (AKA Chapters' Meeting)
There was some discussions between Claudia (WMAT) and Andrea (WMHU) during the PED worshop held in Budapest about hosting a joint Wikimedia Conference next year, maybe in Sopron (50mins from Vienna by train) or in Győr (1,5hrs from three major airports int the region - Budapest, Vienna and Bratislava) Balázs 2013/8/30 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events/upcoming done Wikimedia CH step in for the Hackathon in 2014 and for the Wikimedia Conference 2015 sincerely Charles ___ I use this email for mailing list only. « Je donne mon avis non comme bon mais comme mien. » (Michel de Montaigne) Charles ANDRES Wikimedia CH – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 30 août 2013 à 18:39, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl a écrit : Hello, Another coincidence: WMNL is very much interested in hosting a big international GLAM event in 2015. How about if there is a page on Meta where we collect the intentions and plans for the following years, with regard to the major conventions: * Wikimania * WM Conference, the former chapters meeting * GLAM event * Hackathon * Education event? Kind regards Ziko Am Freitag, 30. August 2013 schrieb Nicole Ebber : Hey, what a coincidence. Minutes ago I posted a suggestion to chapters-l and copied it to the talk page of the Future of the Wikimedia Conference page. Glad the we bring the discussion to the next level now. Thanks, Asaf! :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Coming_up_with_a_location_first Cheers, Nicole On 30 August 2013 16:45, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello All: Following our most recent, successful, community gathering in Hong Kong - A BIG thank you, again, to everyone who made it such an event to remember - we are looking ahead to the annual Wikimedia Conference (AKA Chapters' Meeting.) As many of you know, we typically await the offer of a specific group to host the event each year. While this process has more or less worked in the past, we are increasingly aware that waiting until close to the gathering to decide on the date and the location creates an unnecessary inconvenience to those planning to attend and results in higher fees for travel and lodging that could be avoided if we worked together to plan further ahead. Wikimedia Deutschland had helpfully started a conversation about the future of the Wikimedia Conference, on Meta[1], including the question of settling the host group. Regrettably, there has been practically no engagement with that page so far. (For my part, I have deliberately been waiting for a few movement groups to speak first, as I wanted to avoid priming the conversation with the (perceived) weight of WMF's voice.) It has occurred to us that two of the reasons that we are not able to plan further ahead may be 1. the somewhat vague nature of the planning process and 2. that groups who may want to host hesitate because of an uncertainty regarding the costs involved in hosting such a large event. Therefore, we would like to provide some basic information about the Wikimedia Conference and begin a community conversation regarding how me might work together to set the date and location by, say, November of the year preceding the event; thus giving those who want to attend plenty of time to plan and saving the movement and each of the groups the higher cost of last minute lodging arrangements and airline ticket purchases. Additionally, planning ahead will allow all of the chapters who wish to send participants to contribute to the agenda for the gathering; thus making sure that all of the issues that the participants would like to discuss are addressed at this annual conference. *==First a bit about the purpose of the Wikimedia Conference==* *An opportunity for Wikimedia movement organizations to meet face-to-face and share ideas about projects and practices and to discuss any unresolved issues that may have come up during the past year. *A venue for one of the quarterly Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees meetings and an opportunity for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees and Wikimedia movement organizations to meet and talk. *A venue for the Funds Dissemination Committee to meet to assess the funding proposals for Round 2 of the current year and provide recommendations on those proposals to the WMF Board. We thought that beginning a discussion regarding hosting requirements i.e. venue size, accessibility of lodging near the venue, handicapped accessibility, ease of air and ground transit in and out of the venue location, visa application process, Internet access,
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 34 -- 28 August 2013
News and notes: Looking ahead to Wiki Loves Monuments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/News_and_notes In the media: Chelsea Manning, Box-office predictors, and 'Storming Wikipedia' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/In_the_media Traffic report: Reddit creep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/Traffic_report WikiProject report: Loop-the-loop: Amusement Parks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/WikiProject_report Featured content: WikiCup update, and the gardens of Finland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/Featured_content Technology report: Gallery improvements launch on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/Technology_report Recent research: WikiSym 2013 retrospective http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28/Recent_research Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-28 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login
1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. 2) Why when I go to the Watchlist or any other page requiring to be logged in, I am not redirected to the login screen? Maybe there is a hidden reason for not showing directly the login screen. Nothing life-threatening in any case. Thanks Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 7:41 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. Not a perfect answer for this but my understanding of the way the sessions work at the moment is that you can force other sessions closed by logging out. If you log out in one place you will be logged out in all places (this remembering is dredged up from a discussion months ago but I just tested it and it does seem to hold true :) ). Obviously that doesn't help the 'see if you have other sessions' problem but if you are ever concerned could work well. It still means you can log IN to multiple sites just once you click log out it ends all sessions. James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. Not yet. There is an extension Extension:SecureSessions that implements this, and hopefully will be deployed in the future (it's not ready for deployment yet, since it needs more development). On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:45 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not a perfect answer for this but my understanding of the way the sessions work at the moment is that you can force other sessions closed by logging out. If you log out in one place you will be logged out in all places (this remembering is dredged up from a discussion months ago but I just tested it and it does seem to hold true :) ). Obviously that doesn't help the 'see if you have other sessions' problem but if you are ever concerned could work well. It still means you can log IN to multiple sites just once you click log out it ends all sessions. Also not (entirely) accurate. In MediaWiki core, logging out will only clear your current session, not all sessions. Only in CentralAuth will logging out do such a thing. Why such functionality exists and is in contrast to core functionality is beyond me. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Questions about the login
Thanks for your answers! Then I think I will change the password and hope that that will close the other sessions... And if not even that works, then I will just cross my fingers... Micru On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Is there any way to know if I have other sessions open and close them (like in Gmail)? I used another computer and I don't remember if Iogged out. Not yet. There is an extension Extension:SecureSessions that implements this, and hopefully will be deployed in the future (it's not ready for deployment yet, since it needs more development). On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:45 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not a perfect answer for this but my understanding of the way the sessions work at the moment is that you can force other sessions closed by logging out. If you log out in one place you will be logged out in all places (this remembering is dredged up from a discussion months ago but I just tested it and it does seem to hold true :) ). Obviously that doesn't help the 'see if you have other sessions' problem but if you are ever concerned could work well. It still means you can log IN to multiple sites just once you click log out it ends all sessions. Also not (entirely) accurate. In MediaWiki core, logging out will only clear your current session, not all sessions. Only in CentralAuth will logging out do such a thing. Why such functionality exists and is in contrast to core functionality is beyond me. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
