Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-22 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:52 AM, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not in communications at all: I'm in RD, but our Corporate Communications team really does want to act in good faith, which is Yeah, usually when someone wants to play nicely ask asks openly people start to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-22 Thread Johan Jönsson
2013/10/22 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com Thanks all! Surprising as it might seem for a company our size, we don't have any consultants polishing our Wikipedia pages. I'm not in communications at all: I'm in RD, but our Corporate Communications team really does want to act in

[Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hello, below I'm copying the letter I've just sent to Sue on behalf of the Funds Dissemination Committee, related to the way we see WMF should participate in the FDC process. A little background: In the first year, the WMF submitted part of its annual plan 2012-2013 budget as its proposal to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Risker
Where does the Board Audit Committee fit into this? Risker On 22 October 2013 07:00, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: hello, below I'm copying the letter I've just sent to Sue on behalf of the Funds Dissemination Committee, related to the way we see WMF should participate in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi, I've been aware of this brewing, but can only say that I'm pleased to finally reach the surface. There is no good reason for part of the WMF's budget to be privileged or quarantined from the same scrutiny

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Craig Franklin
Well, this change won't make things perfect - there is still something of a conflict of interest there and obviously the WMF board can choose to ignore the FDC's recommendation altogether and award itself an unreasonably generous budget. However, from last year's experience, where the WMF plan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Risker
Actually, I'd say that the opportunity for conflict of interest is extremely high, and there's pretty much no way that the FDC can make recommendations on the overall budget (and the very sizeable portion of said budget that is largely dispensed based on their recommendation) without crossing the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Nathan, On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Except that from both a practical and legal perspective the authority of the FDC comes from the WMF; this is the fundamental problem with having it purport to review the Foundation's spending and activity. If the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.plwrote: I have no idea what gave you this impression. The FDC is composed of Wikimedia volunteers and serves as an advisory committee by the Board. The Board itself is not the foundation, neither - it is a body overseeing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Nathan, I'm not saying that the problems you're pointing out are non-existent. Rather, I'd say that they are likely unavoidable. I'm not certain about Western Europeans' solidarity anyway - I have serious doubts if any of the Western European FDC members would have any preference for other

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Dariusz, dear other FDC members, thanks for your brave and necessary step. Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 22 October 2013 13:00, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: hello,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Theo10011
This seems like a preposterous proposition, if not for the distinct recollection that this might have been insinuated by Ms. Gardner in the discussion leading up to the formation of FDC. It still reads like a poorly thought out attempt at some form of a coup or the making of one. This is as bad an

[Wikimedia-l] New Wikimania Committee Formed

2013-10-22 Thread Ellie Young
A Wikimania committee has been formed to ensure that the legacy of knowledge is effectively and efficiently passed on to the organising teams and to ensure a smooth and successful Wikimania. For more details on the committee and its charter see:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Theo10011, 23/10/2013 00:21: I'm quite surprised to constantly read FDC is somehow representative of the larger community and accountable to them. Almost all the current members were part of chapter leadership and have been quite active within that circle. I suppose this is the same fiction as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] letter from the FDC to the WMF

2013-10-22 Thread Theo10011
Hi Nemo I'll get straight to my point here before answering in-line. I see this as yet another move to change or one-up the power structures at play here. WMF created this FDC to evaluate chapter finances, FDC is still limited in what they believe is their scope, WMF still has a great deal of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimania Committee Formed

2013-10-22 Thread MZMcBride
Ellie Young wrote: • Orsolya Virág Gyenes (representing WM 2012) • James Hare I think your label may be switched here? MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimania Committee Formed

2013-10-22 Thread Sarah Stierch
Orsolya was Deputy Program Chair for WM 2012. And James was the lead for WLM 2012. So it's correct no matter what :) -Sarah On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Ellie Young wrote: • Orsolya Virág Gyenes (representing WM 2012) • James Hare I think your