Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Anders Wennersten]

I have assumed it is an effect  of Google starting to show an extract 
from Wikipedia on the page where they show hit results.


I raised the issue Sept 29 in a thread here called New Google interface 
to Wikipedia


Anders


Harsh Kothari skrev 2013-11-23 08:00:

Similar thing to Gujarati Wikipedia
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryGU.htm

Peak at August 2013
Down at April 2013

It may be possible that people who are using local language google search
increased.




On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:


On 11/22/2013 01:41 PM, Strainu wrote:

Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian
in just 3 months [1].
[1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm

Pretty similar to Spanish and Catalan:

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryES.htm
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryCA.htm

Some Catalan editors {{vague}} were wondering how much the nice pannel
featuring Wikipedia text and image in Google searches had to do with
this. But yes, it's almost too nice to be true.

It would be interesting to see whether the increase in page views pulls
a vawe of increased edits and editors numbers.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beta Features Launch Worldwide

[Samuel Klein]

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Emily Blanchard
wrote:

> Congratulations!  Looks good with lots of hard work behind it!
>

Yes, this looks simply great.  SJ


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> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Fabrice Florin  >wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > We're happy to let you know that the first version of Beta Features (1)
> > has now been deployed worldwide on all wikis.
> >
> > Beta Features is a new program that lets you test new features on
> > Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites before they are released widely.
> Think
> > of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview
> upcoming
> > changes and help designers and engineers make improvements based on their
> > feedback.
> >
> > This first worldwide release includes these features:
> > * Media Viewer — view images in large size (2) (7)
> > * Typography Refresh — make text more readable (3)
> > * Near this page —  see what other pages are nearby (4)
> > * VisualEditor Opt-in — edit pages without having to learn wiki code (5 -
> > see below)
> > * VisualEditor Formulæ — edit algebra or equations on your pages  (6 -
> see
> > below)
> > (Note that Visual Editor Opt-in is only on a couple hundred sites where
> it
> > was already available, but not enabled by default.)
> >
> > We invite you to test these new features on your sites and let us know
> > what you think. You can share your feedback about this Beta Features
> > program on its discussion page (8) -- or about individual features on
> their
> > respective discussion pages (see links 2-6 below). And if you find any
> > technical bugs, please report them on Bugzilla (9).
> >
> > We also invite you to join tomorrow's office hours IRC chat, this Friday,
> > 22 November, 2013 at 18:00 UTC. (10)
> >
> > Many thanks to all the community and team members who made this program
> > possible! We hope it can help us improve Wikipedia together and provide a
> > better experience for all our users around the world.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> >
> > Fabrice -- on behalf of the Multimedia, Visual Editor and Design teams
> >
> >
> >
> > (1) About Beta Features:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
> >
> > (2) About Media Viewer v0.1:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
> >
> > (3) About Typography Refresh:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_Update
> >
> > (4) About Nearby Pages:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Nearby_Pages
> >
> > (5) About Visual Editor Opt-in:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/General
> >
> > (6) About VisualEditor Formulæ:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/Formulae
> >
> > (7) Media Viewer - New Version 0.2:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo
> > (This new version displays larger images, for a more immersive
> experience.
> > It is now on MediaWiki.org only and will be released to all wikis in
> early
> > December.)
> >
> > (8) Discuss Beta Features:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:About_Beta_Features
> >
> > (9) Report a Bug:
> >
> >
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=BetaFeatures
> >
> > (10) Office hours IRC chat - Friday, 22 November at 18:00 UTC:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
> >
> >
> > P.S.: If any community member would like to hide the 'Beta' link in their
> > personal menu, they can easily remove it by going to their personal style
> > page [[Special:MyPage/common.css]] and pasting in this CSS rule on a line
> > by itself: "#pt-betafeatures { display: none; }" (do not include the
> > quotes).
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > Fabrice Florin
> > Product Manager, Multimedia
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Harsh Kothari]

Similar thing to Gujarati Wikipedia
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryGU.htm

Peak at August 2013
Down at April 2013

It may be possible that people who are using local language google search
increased.




On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> On 11/22/2013 01:41 PM, Strainu wrote:
> > Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
> > Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian
> > in just 3 months [1].
>
> > [1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm
>
> Pretty similar to Spanish and Catalan:
>
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryES.htm
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryCA.htm
>
> Some Catalan editors {{vague}} were wondering how much the nice pannel
> featuring Wikipedia text and image in Google searches had to do with
> this. But yes, it's almost too nice to be true.
>
> It would be interesting to see whether the increase in page views pulls
> a vawe of increased edits and editors numbers.
>
> --
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> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Quim Gil]

On 11/22/2013 01:41 PM, Strainu wrote:
> Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
> Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian
> in just 3 months [1].

> [1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm

Pretty similar to Spanish and Catalan:

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryES.htm
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryCA.htm

Some Catalan editors {{vague}} were wondering how much the nice pannel
featuring Wikipedia text and image in Google searches had to do with
this. But yes, it's almost too nice to be true.

It would be interesting to see whether the increase in page views pulls
a vawe of increased edits and editors numbers.

-- 
Quim Gil
Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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[Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Vishnu T]

Hi,

I closely monitor Indic WP stats and witnessed a similar near 100% spike
during April to June 2013. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryBN.htm

Tried very much to find out what triggered this but didn't come across
anything  that significant to have caused this. Wondering if there is any
way to get a more nuanced understanding of such events? It would be helpful.

Vishnu




On Saturday, 23 November 2013, Lodewijk  wrote:
> I would guess either national press, or a change in how the popular search
> engines work?
>
> Are we running & recording certain defaulted random queries from time to
> time to compare?
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/11/22 Erik Zachte 
>
>> Hi Strainu,
>>
>> We noticed and are investigating. It surely looks almost too good to be
>> true.
>> Any suggestions for an explanation are welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Erik
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
>> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Strainu
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 22:41
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking at the summary reports per language, I've noticed a linear,
>> significant increase in pageviews for many European languages (ro, bg,
hu,
>> fr) Wikipedias in the last 3 months. This is not happening for Asian
>> languages or Russian and is not obvious from the report card.
>>
>> Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
>> Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian in
>> just 3 months [1].
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Strainu
>>
>>
>> [1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in theroom

[Peter Southwood]

Remember that is always the other person who is wrong headed and obsessed...
Cheeers,
Peter
- Original Message - 
From: "The Cunctator" 

To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in 
theroom




Also, vandalism had always been a red herring, kind of like the terrorism
that justifies the TSA security theater and NBA surveillance or the Red
Scare. It's a wrong-headed obsession that weakens community.
On Nov 22, 2013 2:06 PM, "Steven Walling"  
wrote:



On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Typo correction and vandalism reversion are certainly both entries to
> editing, and it isn't just anti-vandalism where the opportunities have
> declined in recent years. Typos are getting harder to find, especially 
> in
> stable widely read articles. Yes you can find plenty of typos by 
> checking

> new pages and recent changes, but I doubt our  5 edits a month editors
are
> going to internal maintenance pages like that. I suspect they are 
> readers

> who fix things they come across. It would be interesting to survey a
sample
> of them I suspect we'd find many who are reading Wikipedia just as much
as
> they used to, but if they only edit when they spot a mistake then of
course
> they will now be editing less frequently. And of course none of that is
> actually bad, any more than is the loss of large numbers of vandals who
> used to get into the 5 edits a month band for at least the month in 
> which

> they did their spree and were blocked..
>
> The difficulty of getting precise measurements of "community health"
makes
> it a fascinating topic, and with many known factors altering edit 
> levels

in
> sometimes poorly understood ways we need to be wary of
oversimplifications.
> No-one really knows what would have happened if the many edit filters
> installed in the last four years had instead been coded as anti 
> vandalism

> bots, clearly our edit count would now be much higher, but whether it
would
> currently be higher or lower than in 2009 when the edit filters were
> introduced is unknown. Nor should we fret that we shifted so much of 
> our

> anti-vandalism work from very quick reversion to not accepting edits.
> However it isn't sensible to  benchmark community health against past
edit
> levels, we should really be comparing community activity against
readership
> levels. If we do that there is a disconnect between our readership 
> which

> for years has grown faster than the internet and our community which is
> broadly stable. To some extent this can be considered a success for
Vector
> and the shift of our default from a skin optimised for editing to one
> optimised for reading. Of course if we want to increase editing levels 
> we
> always have the option of defaulting new accounts to Monobook instead 
> of

> Vector. My suspicion is also that the rise of the mobile device,
especially
> amongst the young, is turning us from an interactive medium into more 
> of

a
> broadcast one. It is also likely to be contributing to the greying of 
> the

> pedia.
>
> I am trying to list the major known and probable causes of changes of 
> the

> fall in the raw editing levels in a page on
> wiki<
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Going_off_the_boil%3F
> >,
> feedback welcome.
>

Holy smokes this thread has gotten off topic, but I'll bite. ;)

Making articles that need spelling and grammar fixes easily available to
new editors is precisely what we're doing with GettingStarted, our 
software

system for introducing newly-registered people to editing. (Docs at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GettingStarted and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians). We're
currently
getting thousands of new people to make their first typo fix a month on
English Wikipedia, and we're moving to other Wikipedias soon.

In English Wikipedia it's quite easy for us to do so, since there's a 
large

category of articles needing copyediting. In other Wikipedias, it's not
easy, because there is no such category. If you want to help us help
newbies, the best thing you could do is create a copyediting category on
your Wikipedia and link it to the appropriate Wikidata item
(either Q8235695 or Q9137504).

As a side point: when we examine first-time editors contributions, these
days it's rare to find someone start out by correcting vandalism, 
probably
because now bots and users of tools like Huggle or Twinkle catch it all 
so

fast. It's so small a number that when we examine samples of new
contributors in our qualitative research,[1][2] we just put it in the 
Other

category of edit types.

Steven

1.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/Qualitative_analysis
2.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/OB6/Contribution_quality_and_type

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

[The Cunctator]

Also, vandalism had always been a red herring, kind of like the terrorism
that justifies the TSA security theater and NBA surveillance or the Red
Scare. It's a wrong-headed obsession that weakens community.
On Nov 22, 2013 2:06 PM, "Steven Walling"  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM, WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Typo correction and vandalism reversion are certainly both entries to
> > editing, and it isn't just anti-vandalism where the opportunities have
> > declined in recent years. Typos are getting harder to find, especially in
> > stable widely read articles. Yes you can find plenty of typos by checking
> > new pages and recent changes, but I doubt our  5 edits a month editors
> are
> > going to internal maintenance pages like that. I suspect they are readers
> > who fix things they come across. It would be interesting to survey a
> sample
> > of them I suspect we'd find many who are reading Wikipedia just as much
> as
> > they used to, but if they only edit when they spot a mistake then of
> course
> > they will now be editing less frequently. And of course none of that is
> > actually bad, any more than is the loss of large numbers of vandals who
> > used to get into the 5 edits a month band for at least the month in which
> > they did their spree and were blocked..
> >
> > The difficulty of getting precise measurements of "community health"
> makes
> > it a fascinating topic, and with many known factors altering edit levels
> in
> > sometimes poorly understood ways we need to be wary of
> oversimplifications.
> > No-one really knows what would have happened if the many edit filters
> > installed in the last four years had instead been coded as anti vandalism
> > bots, clearly our edit count would now be much higher, but whether it
> would
> > currently be higher or lower than in 2009 when the edit filters were
> > introduced is unknown. Nor should we fret that we shifted so much of our
> > anti-vandalism work from very quick reversion to not accepting edits.
> > However it isn't sensible to  benchmark community health against past
> edit
> > levels, we should really be comparing community activity against
> readership
> > levels. If we do that there is a disconnect between our readership which
> > for years has grown faster than the internet and our community which is
> > broadly stable. To some extent this can be considered a success for
> Vector
> > and the shift of our default from a skin optimised for editing to one
> > optimised for reading. Of course if we want to increase editing levels we
> > always have the option of defaulting new accounts to Monobook instead of
> > Vector. My suspicion is also that the rise of the mobile device,
> especially
> > amongst the young, is turning us from an interactive medium into more of
> a
> > broadcast one. It is also likely to be contributing to the greying of the
> > pedia.
> >
> > I am trying to list the major known and probable causes of changes of the
> > fall in the raw editing levels in a page on
> > wiki<
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Going_off_the_boil%3F
> > >,
> > feedback welcome.
> >
>
> Holy smokes this thread has gotten off topic, but I'll bite. ;)
>
> Making articles that need spelling and grammar fixes easily available to
> new editors is precisely what we're doing with GettingStarted, our software
> system for introducing newly-registered people to editing. (Docs at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GettingStarted and
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians). We're
> currently
> getting thousands of new people to make their first typo fix a month on
> English Wikipedia, and we're moving to other Wikipedias soon.
>
> In English Wikipedia it's quite easy for us to do so, since there's a large
> category of articles needing copyediting. In other Wikipedias, it's not
> easy, because there is no such category. If you want to help us help
> newbies, the best thing you could do is create a copyediting category on
> your Wikipedia and link it to the appropriate Wikidata item
> (either Q8235695 or Q9137504).
>
> As a side point: when we examine first-time editors contributions, these
> days it's rare to find someone start out by correcting vandalism, probably
> because now bots and users of tools like Huggle or Twinkle catch it all so
> fast. It's so small a number that when we examine samples of new
> contributors in our qualitative research,[1][2] we just put it in the Other
> category of edit types.
>
> Steven
>
> 1.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/Qualitative_analysis
> 2.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/OB6/Contribution_quality_and_type
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beta Features Launch Worldwide

[Emily Blanchard]

Congratulations!  Looks good with lots of hard work behind it!




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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Fabrice Florin wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We're happy to let you know that the first version of Beta Features (1)
> has now been deployed worldwide on all wikis.
>
> Beta Features is a new program that lets you test new features on
> Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites before they are released widely. Think
> of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming
> changes and help designers and engineers make improvements based on their
> feedback.
>
> This first worldwide release includes these features:
> * Media Viewer — view images in large size (2) (7)
> * Typography Refresh — make text more readable (3)
> * Near this page —  see what other pages are nearby (4)
> * VisualEditor Opt-in — edit pages without having to learn wiki code (5 -
> see below)
> * VisualEditor Formulæ — edit algebra or equations on your pages  (6 - see
> below)
> (Note that Visual Editor Opt-in is only on a couple hundred sites where it
> was already available, but not enabled by default.)
>
> We invite you to test these new features on your sites and let us know
> what you think. You can share your feedback about this Beta Features
> program on its discussion page (8) -- or about individual features on their
> respective discussion pages (see links 2-6 below). And if you find any
> technical bugs, please report them on Bugzilla (9).
>
> We also invite you to join tomorrow's office hours IRC chat, this Friday,
> 22 November, 2013 at 18:00 UTC. (10)
>
> Many thanks to all the community and team members who made this program
> possible! We hope it can help us improve Wikipedia together and provide a
> better experience for all our users around the world.
>
> Enjoy,
>
>
> Fabrice -- on behalf of the Multimedia, Visual Editor and Design teams
>
>
>
> (1) About Beta Features:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
>
> (2) About Media Viewer v0.1:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer
>
> (3) About Typography Refresh:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_Update
>
> (4) About Nearby Pages:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Nearby_Pages
>
> (5) About Visual Editor Opt-in:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/General
>
> (6) About VisualEditor Formulæ:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/Formulae
>
> (7) Media Viewer - New Version 0.2:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo
> (This new version displays larger images, for a more immersive experience.
> It is now on MediaWiki.org only and will be released to all wikis in early
> December.)
>
> (8) Discuss Beta Features:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:About_Beta_Features
>
> (9) Report a Bug:
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=BetaFeatures
>
> (10) Office hours IRC chat - Friday, 22 November at 18:00 UTC:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
>
>
> P.S.: If any community member would like to hide the 'Beta' link in their
> personal menu, they can easily remove it by going to their personal style
> page [[Special:MyPage/common.css]] and pasting in this CSS rule on a line
> by itself: "#pt-betafeatures { display: none; }" (do not include the
> quotes).
>
>
> 
>
>
> Fabrice Florin
> Product Manager, Multimedia
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Meeting Agenda

[Jan-Bart de Vreede]

Hi All,

The board will meet this Sunday and Monday for its “Fall” board meeting in San 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beta Features Launch Worldwide

[Fabrice Florin]

Hi Liam,

Thanks so much for your good feedback about Beta Features. (1)

I am glad you view this program as a positive development and think this tool 
can give users more control over their experience, as well as encourage more 
reasoned conversations during feature development, while reducing the stress 
for everyone. So like you, we're very hopeful about the potential of this tool 
for enabling more effective collaborations between foundation and community 
members.

Already, we're getting invaluable feedback on discussion pages like this one 
for Media Viewer (2). On that note, a newer version of Media Viewer is now 
ready for testing on MediaWiki.org, which displays larger images for a more 
immersive experience, as shown on this demo page (3). This new version will 
automatically be deployed on English Wikipedia's Beta Features section in early 
December, but we would love to get early feedback, if anyone is interested. To 
learn more, check out this overview of that new Media Viewer version. (4)

Last but not least, kudos to all the folks who contributed to this skunkworks 
program, across many different teams: Jared Zimmerman, Mark Holmquist, James 
Forrester, Jon Robson,May Galloway, Keegan Peterzell, and Erik Moeller, to name 
but a few :) While no particular team had a mandate to start this program, we 
all felt it was the right thing to do -- and just got it done. Sometimes the 
best projects come from these kinds of serendipitous collaborations. :)

Onward! 


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(1) About Beta Features:
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(2) Discuss Media Viewer:
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(3) New Version v0.2 of Media Viewer:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo

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On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:39 AM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:38:30 +1100
From: Liam Wyatt 
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Cc: Mark Holmquist ,  Jared Zimmerman

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beta Features Launch Worldwide
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

This is a very positive development in the manner by which new features are
given some visibility, tested and measured.
Making new features *opt-in*, and making it easy to return back is a
healthy way of getting wider usage and feedback IMO. Also, the ability for
a user to chose to automatically receive all new Beta functions, or to
manually select the individual elements that they like, is a nice touch
too. I think that, culturally as much as technologically, having a "beta
track" for ALL new elements is a good procedure to have. It will provide
consistent and clear expectations of what's happening (and a clear place to
provide feedback that is actually answered) - not having that is a large
factor IMHO in the negative reaction many features have previously
received.

I always really liked the manner in which the "Usability Initiative" (which
developed the vector skin a few years back) measured their success - the
proportion of people who turned "on" AND continued using new features. If I
recall correctly that was the first time the WMF used the "beta" concept
and I believe that the way it was rolled-out was the best practice example
of the WMF making a major change in a calm, clearly communicated,
responsive way. Interestingly, the things that caused controversy on the
day that that program's work became the default were the elements that were
added in at the at the last minute and therefore were not part of the Beta
- the v.2 logo, the 'collapsed' inter-language links box in the sidebar.

-Liam / Wittylama

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Lodewijk]

I would guess either national press, or a change in how the popular search
engines work?

Are we running & recording certain defaulted random queries from time to
time to compare?

Lodewijk


2013/11/22 Erik Zachte 

> Hi Strainu,
>
> We noticed and are investigating. It surely looks almost too good to be
> true.
> Any suggestions for an explanation are welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Strainu
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 22:41
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> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking at the summary reports per language, I've noticed a linear,
> significant increase in pageviews for many European languages (ro, bg, hu,
> fr) Wikipedias in the last 3 months. This is not happening for Asian
> languages or Russian and is not obvious from the report card.
>
> Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
> Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian in
> just 3 months [1].
>
> Thanks,
>   Strainu
>
>
> [1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Erik Zachte]

Hi Strainu,

We noticed and are investigating. It surely looks almost too good to be true. 
Any suggestions for an explanation are welcome. 

Cheers,
Erik

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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

Hi,

Looking at the summary reports per language, I've noticed a linear, significant 
increase in pageviews for many European languages (ro, bg, hu, fr) Wikipedias 
in the last 3 months. This is not happening for Asian languages or Russian and 
is not obvious from the report card.

Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these 
Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian in just 
3 months [1].

Thanks,
  Strainu


[1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm

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[Wikimedia-l] Increase in page views for the last 3 months

[Strainu]

Hi,

Looking at the summary reports per language, I've noticed a linear,
significant increase in pageviews for many European languages (ro, bg,
hu, fr) Wikipedias in the last 3 months. This is not happening for
Asian languages or Russian and is not obvious from the report card.

Has anything changed in the reporting or the visit patterns for these
Wikipedias? It looks pretty weird to have a 100% increase for Romanian
in just 3 months [1].

Thanks,
  Strainu


[1] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryRO.htm

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

[Steven Walling]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Typo correction and vandalism reversion are certainly both entries to
> editing, and it isn't just anti-vandalism where the opportunities have
> declined in recent years. Typos are getting harder to find, especially in
> stable widely read articles. Yes you can find plenty of typos by checking
> new pages and recent changes, but I doubt our  5 edits a month editors are
> going to internal maintenance pages like that. I suspect they are readers
> who fix things they come across. It would be interesting to survey a sample
> of them I suspect we'd find many who are reading Wikipedia just as much as
> they used to, but if they only edit when they spot a mistake then of course
> they will now be editing less frequently. And of course none of that is
> actually bad, any more than is the loss of large numbers of vandals who
> used to get into the 5 edits a month band for at least the month in which
> they did their spree and were blocked..
>
> The difficulty of getting precise measurements of "community health" makes
> it a fascinating topic, and with many known factors altering edit levels in
> sometimes poorly understood ways we need to be wary of oversimplifications.
> No-one really knows what would have happened if the many edit filters
> installed in the last four years had instead been coded as anti vandalism
> bots, clearly our edit count would now be much higher, but whether it would
> currently be higher or lower than in 2009 when the edit filters were
> introduced is unknown. Nor should we fret that we shifted so much of our
> anti-vandalism work from very quick reversion to not accepting edits.
> However it isn't sensible to  benchmark community health against past edit
> levels, we should really be comparing community activity against readership
> levels. If we do that there is a disconnect between our readership which
> for years has grown faster than the internet and our community which is
> broadly stable. To some extent this can be considered a success for Vector
> and the shift of our default from a skin optimised for editing to one
> optimised for reading. Of course if we want to increase editing levels we
> always have the option of defaulting new accounts to Monobook instead of
> Vector. My suspicion is also that the rise of the mobile device, especially
> amongst the young, is turning us from an interactive medium into more of a
> broadcast one. It is also likely to be contributing to the greying of the
> pedia.
>
> I am trying to list the major known and probable causes of changes of the
> fall in the raw editing levels in a page on
> wiki<
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Going_off_the_boil%3F
> >,
> feedback welcome.
>

Holy smokes this thread has gotten off topic, but I'll bite. ;)

Making articles that need spelling and grammar fixes easily available to
new editors is precisely what we're doing with GettingStarted, our software
system for introducing newly-registered people to editing. (Docs at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GettingStarted and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians). We're currently
getting thousands of new people to make their first typo fix a month on
English Wikipedia, and we're moving to other Wikipedias soon.

In English Wikipedia it's quite easy for us to do so, since there's a large
category of articles needing copyediting. In other Wikipedias, it's not
easy, because there is no such category. If you want to help us help
newbies, the best thing you could do is create a copyediting category on
your Wikipedia and link it to the appropriate Wikidata item
(either Q8235695 or Q9137504).

As a side point: when we examine first-time editors contributions, these
days it's rare to find someone start out by correcting vandalism, probably
because now bots and users of tools like Huggle or Twinkle catch it all so
fast. It's so small a number that when we examine samples of new
contributors in our qualitative research,[1][2] we just put it in the Other
category of edit types.

Steven

1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/Qualitative_analysis
2.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/OB6/Contribution_quality_and_type
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[Wikimedia-l] Discuss Beta Features on IRC today at 18:00 UTC

[Fabrice Florin]

Hi folks,

We'd like to invite you to join our discussion of Beta Features (1), which we 
just deployed worldwide yesterday. 

Our office hours IRC chat starts in a half-hour, today at 18:00 UTC. (2)

If you cannot join this chat, we invite you to try out Beta Features and share 
your feedback on one of the pages below (3-8)

And if you find any technical bugs, please report them on Bugzilla (9). 

Beta Features is a new program that lets you test new features on Wikipedia and 
other Wikimedia sites before they are released widely. 

We hope it can help us improve Wikipedia together and provide a better 
experience for all our users around the world.

Hope to speak with you soon,


Fabrice -- on behalf of the Multimedia, Visual Editor and Design teams



(1) About Beta Features:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/About_Beta_Features

(2) Today's Office Hours IRC Chat:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours

(3) Discuss Beta Features:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:About_Beta_Features

(4) About Media Viewer v0.1:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer

(5) About Typography Refresh:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_Update

(6) About Nearby Pages:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Nearby_Pages

(7) About Visual Editor Opt-in:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/General

(8) About VisualEditor Formulæ:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/Formulae

(9) Report a Bug:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=BetaFeatures



P.S.: If you are interested in Media Viewer, we invite you to test the new 
version v0.2 on MediaWiki.org:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo

This new version displays larger images, for a more immersive experience. It is 
now on MediaWiki.org only and will be released to all wikis in early December. 
Please share your feedback about this new version on this page:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer



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[Wikimedia-l] Discuss Beta Features on IRC today at 18:00 UTC

[Fabrice Florin]

Hi folks,

We'd like to invite you to join our discussion of Beta Features (1), which we 
just deployed worldwide yesterday. 

Our office hours IRC chat starts in a half-hour, today at 18:00 UTC. (2)

If you cannot join this chat, we invite you to try out Beta Features and share 
your feedback on one of the pages below (3-8)

And if you find any technical bugs, please report them on Bugzilla (9). 

Beta Features is a new program that lets you test new features on Wikipedia and 
other Wikimedia sites before they are released widely. 

We hope it can help us improve Wikipedia together and provide a better 
experience for all our users around the world.

Hope to speak with you soon,


Fabrice -- on behalf of the Multimedia, Visual Editor and Design teams



(1) About Beta Features:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/About_Beta_Features

(2) Today's Office Hours IRC Chat:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours

(3) Discuss Beta Features:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:About_Beta_Features

(4) About Media Viewer v0.1:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer

(5) About Typography Refresh:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_Update

(6) About Nearby Pages:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Nearby_Pages

(7) About Visual Editor Opt-in:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/General

(8) About VisualEditor Formulæ:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Beta_Features/Formulae

(9) Report a Bug:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=BetaFeatures



P.S.: If you are interested in Media Viewer, we invite you to test the new 
version v0.2 on MediaWiki.org:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo

This new version displays larger images, for a more immersive experience. It is 
now on MediaWiki.org only and will be released to all wikis in early December. 
Please share your feedback about this new version on this page:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Multimedia/About_Media_Viewer




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[Wikimedia-l] Personal Post on Wiki-PR

[Andy Cruz y Corro]

Hello folks.

I just wanted to share with you a post I made with my personal thoughts on
the Wiki-PR issue. It's hosted on Medium right
hereand a Spanish translation
is available
on 
metaright
now (I'll upload the English version later today). Feel free to use
it as you wish.

-- 
Salud!!!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Spokeswoman Catrin Schoneville is leaving Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. on January 31, 2014

[Ziko van Dijk]

Hello,

I'd liked to join the friendly words of Ting and Pavel; Wikimedia Nederland
has always enjoyed to work together with Catrin and learn from her.

Quickly but cordialiter from a train station,
Ziko


Am Freitag, 22. November 2013 schrieb Ting Chen :

> Hallo Catrin,
>
> hoffe Du liesst das hier noch. Als ich vor drei Wochen in Berlin auf dem
> DiversityCon war, habe ich noch nach Dir gefragt. Vielen Dank für Deine
> Arbeit und vielen Dank für die Zusammenarbeit. Als ich die Ankündigung von
> Pavel lass, kommt sofort das Bild von dem Sonnenuntergang am Beach von
> Haifa in meinem Kopf. Hoffe, Du meldest ab und zu. Ich werde immer wieder
> an Dich denken.
>
> I hope you will read this Catrin, When I was in Berlin three weeks before
> on the DiversityCon I asked about you. Thank you very much for your work
> and thank you very much for work together. When I read the announcement of
> Pavel I immediately saw the sunset on the beach of Haifa. I hope that you
> keep the contact. I will always keep you in my mind.
>
> o/
> Ting
>
> Am 21.11.2013 16:31, schrieb Pavel Richter:
>
>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>
>> Since 2008 Catrin has been working for Wikimedia Deutschland and was one
>> of
>> Wikimedia Deutschlands first employees. We would like to thank Catrin for
>> five fabulous years, during which she has made a decisive contribution to
>> the growth and success of WMDE and its projects. Throughout this period,
>> Catrin has shown great commitment and taken a very active role in
>> furthering the cause of free knowledge, and she has succeeded in
>> establishing some excellent partnerships for us. She has used her
>> competence and expertise to develop the public relations department and
>> raise the quality of WMDE’s press work to a professional level. Catrin has
>> contributed to the strategic development of the association, and has been
>> an outstanding representative for it. Her excellent ideas have helped to
>> raise awareness and enhance the image of Wikimedia.
>>
>> I would also like to thank Catrin in the name of the Supervisory Board for
>> her committed and successful work for WMDE and her tireless efforts to
>> promote free knowledge. We are sorry to lose her and wish her exciting new
>> challenges elsewhere, and all the best for her personal and professional
>> future.
>>
>>   With regards to her departure, Catrin says: “Although I have built up an
>> excellent team and have been able to work with the best colleagues in the
>> world over the past few years at WMDE, I have now decided to embark on a
>> different career path. The last five years have been like a journey
>> through
>> the Wikiverse for me. I have met many people who have inspired me: people
>> who share their knowledge on a voluntary basis, allowing so many millions
>> of people – including myself – to benefit from their knowledge, and
>> colleagues who work collaboratively to spread the vision of freely
>> accessible knowledge to the world. I admire and am grateful to all these
>> special people in the Wikiverse, who have been so stimulating to work with
>> and who have made my time here so fascinating. I wish you all great
>> success
>> and happiness in the future!”
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Pavel Richter
>> Executive Director
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
>> Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260
>> Twitter: @pavel
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] input.wikimedia.org?

[Erik Moeller]

I should also note that input.mozilla.org inspired MoodBar/the
Feedback Dashboard extension (we actually met with the PM of the
project several times before kicking off work on MoodBar/Feedback
Dashboard), which can be used to collect feedback from users. We used
it for collecting new user feedback on enwiki for some time, as well
as enabling experienced users to respond to such feedback. You can
still see it in use on nlwiki:

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:DashboardTerugkoppeling

We disabled it on enwiki not because we think it's a bad idea, but
because we'd ultimately like to integrate such micro-feedback
functionality more cleanly with Flow [1] & improvements to the
onboarding experience [2]. The "instant response" features in
particular are difficult to integrate with talk pages in a way that's
intuitive for new users, because talk pages suck for new users.

I realize you're asking for a general feedback mechanism for editors,
and I too suspect that Flow will be the right foundation on which such
mechanisms should be built. While I think input.mozilla.org itself is
pretty sound, in the long run, we benefit more from tools that are
well-integrated with the Wikimedia user experience.

Erik

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] input.wikimedia.org?

[sankarshan]

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Gryllida  wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, at 19:18, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
>> 2. We'll have to see whether there are volunteers who are willing to track
>> it and reply to the queries.
>
> As far as I am aware there is no responsibility for WMF staff or volunteers 
> to reply; they may if they want to, but that's not required.

It would probably be counter-productive if the issues and concerns
raised receive no response.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] input.wikimedia.org?

[Gryllida]

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, at 19:18, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> 2. We'll have to see whether there are volunteers who are willing to track
> it and reply to the queries.

As far as I am aware there is no responsibility for WMF staff or volunteers to 
reply; they may if they want to, but that's not required.
 
> 3. There is a similar - though not identical - tool in the MediaWiki
> universe - ArticleFeedback. It's acceptance is quite slow.

That's only about articles. "Hi, I read this, you have my feedback". The input 
tool could be more wide, including issues contributors have with the atmosphere 
and software.

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