Re: [Wikimedia-l] Most viewed articles of 2013, across languages

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Would it be possible to have it for all languages?
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 1 January 2014 20:26, phoebe ayers  wrote:

> I don't think this has been sent out yet:
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitrends/2013.html
>
> (thanks to Itzik for drawing my attention to it, and Johan for coding it
> up!)
>
> This is fascinating. It's interesting that some languages (like
> English) have lots of results that are likely people trying to get to
> other sites (Facebook, Google) but other languages less so.
>
> Happy New Year, everyone!
> Phoebe
>
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[Wikimedia-l] New year's plans for editor engagement

[ENWP Pine]

We had a good 2013 year for readership statistics, fundraising, website 
reliability, and many other metrics. 

We are continuing to have challenges with our editor population declining. 
Statistics are at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org. WMF discussed some of the 
research around these issues a monthly metrics meeting. 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2013-07-11.

We have thousands of new accounts registered each month. However we are still 
losing more active editors than we gain each month. To date WMF and the 
chapters haven't solved this problem although resources are being spent on it. 
Projects include Echo, VisualEditor, Snuggle, GettingStarted, and education 
outreach.

Some discussion of these issues for English Wikipedia is happening at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Possible_paths.2C_after_some_thoughts.

Also check out the book review that is being published in this week's Signpost 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus/Sandbox/Notes#.C5.BBycie_Wirtualnych_Dzikich,
 and the 2010 editor study results 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Editor_Survey_Report_-_April_2011.pdf.

I hope there will be many and sustained conversations in 2014 about questions 
such as these:

* What should WMF, Jimmy, chapters and affiliates, and the online communities 
do differently regarding editor retention in 2014 and beyond?

* What non-technical initiatives should be done to improve editor recruiting 
and retention?

* How can we make Wikipedia editing be as mainstream as playing mobile games? I 
would like to see WMF take leadership on this issue and make a big push in 
2014-2015 to make mobile editing a popular activity.

* Since negative feedback is a major reason that editors leave, should we 
review how we revert and warn editors, how we handle content disputes, and how 
we deal with editors who are uncivil or disruptive?

* How can we be a community that is efficient while being civil and hospitable?

In the next Annual Plan I hope that someone at WMF will be appointed as a point 
person for promoting all editor engagement initiatives and regularly initiate 
discussions such as this one.

Closing thought:

"Whatever the weather
We must move 
together" 

from a Marshall Plan poster, 
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/File:Marshall_Plan_poster.JPG, seen on the 
English WikiQuote main page on December 31, 2013.

Happy new year,

Pine

  

  
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Most viewed articles of 2013, across languages

[Itzik Edri]

And as I wrote on ComCom, this data can be (easy) opportunity for chapters
to get a great press cover by sending the list (and short analytics) to
reports in their country.
Here is the press cover WMIL got yesterday:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4471585,00.html
http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/1,7340,L-3620710,00.html
http://www.themarker.com/wallstreet/1.2204527
http://www.mako.co.il/news-money/tech/Article-5dbc70dbe684341004.htm
http://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1000905873
http://technology.il.msn.com/ויקיפדיה-אלו-הערכים-הנצפים-ביותר-בישראל-ב-2013-5
http://net.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1027978
http://tech.walla.co.il/?w=//2708116
http://www.pc.co.il/?p=142152
http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/267975
http://www.srugim.co.il/64908-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%99-%D7%A0%D7%A6%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%91%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%9C%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%93-%D7%A2%D7%A7%D7%A3-%D7%90%D7%AA

Happy new year from Israel also!

Itzik

On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM, phoebe ayers  wrote:

> I don't think this has been sent out yet:
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitrends/2013.html
>
> (thanks to Itzik for drawing my attention to it, and Johan for coding it
> up!)
>
> This is fascinating. It's interesting that some languages (like
> English) have lots of results that are likely people trying to get to
> other sites (Facebook, Google) but other languages less so.
>
> Happy New Year, everyone!
> Phoebe
>
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>  gmail.com *
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[Wikimedia-l] Most viewed articles of 2013, across languages

[phoebe ayers]

I don't think this has been sent out yet:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitrends/2013.html

(thanks to Itzik for drawing my attention to it, and Johan for coding it up!)

This is fascinating. It's interesting that some languages (like
English) have lots of results that are likely people trying to get to
other sites (Facebook, Google) but other languages less so.

Happy New Year, everyone!
Phoebe

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

[???]

On 01/01/2014 11:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi,
What effective claim has been made against Kim Dotcom and, THAT is your
argument.
Thanks,
 GerardM




The claim is that knowing that items were copyright violations, they 
waited until a DMCA takedown came in before removing a link. Additional 
to that they also, along with their partners, generated many links to 
the same content, that is the criminal conspiracy.


The mens reas, or the wilfulness as it were, starts with the knowledge 
of the violation and the decision to do nothing until a copyright claim 
arrives. That could become a very expensive policy.


But hey, not my arse on the line.



On 1 January 2014 12:21, ???  wrote:


On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:


Hoi,
When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will
have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally.
Consequently your argument is without real merit.
Thanks,
   GerardM





The first thing that is wrong with the above is that copyright holders are
not the Government.




  On 31 December 2013 20:45, ???  wrote:


  On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wrote:


  2013/12/31 ??? 





Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the-
case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/




This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia Commons?
Don't you have better (constructive) arguments?


  I'm comparing your attitude that rather than fixing the known copyright

issues upfront one should await complaints before addressing, to be
similar
to that exhibited by megaupload. An attitude that is essentially one of
"We'll get away with it for as long as possible, until someone
complains."
Meanwhile falsely advertising that the content is free to use.






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

[Thomas Morton]

Well not to get into a whole seperate discussion; but from emails recovered
by prosecutors it seems they knowingly violated the safe harbour provisions
by claiming to copyright holders that they had no access to raw files, when
in fact they did.

Actually, that context does have relevance. To what extent to we balance
the rights of copyright holders against what's best for reusers. And how
does that place us and the foundation legally?

Tom
On 1 Jan 2014 11:33, "Gerard Meijssen"  wrote:

> Hoi,
> What effective claim has been made against Kim Dotcom and, THAT is your
> argument.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On 1 January 2014 12:21, ???  wrote:
>
> > On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> >
> >> Hoi,
> >> When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will
> >> have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally.
> >> Consequently your argument is without real merit.
> >> Thanks,
> >>   GerardM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The first thing that is wrong with the above is that copyright holders
> are
> > not the Government.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 31 December 2013 20:45, ???  wrote:
> >>
> >>  On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  2013/12/31 ??? 
> 
> 
> >
> > Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble?
> > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the-
> > case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/
> >
> >
> 
>  This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia
> Commons?
>  Don't you have better (constructive) arguments?
> 
> 
>   I'm comparing your attitude that rather than fixing the known
> copyright
> >>> issues upfront one should await complaints before addressing, to be
> >>> similar
> >>> to that exhibited by megaupload. An attitude that is essentially one of
> >>> "We'll get away with it for as long as possible, until someone
> >>> complains."
> >>> Meanwhile falsely advertising that the content is free to use.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
What effective claim has been made against Kim Dotcom and, THAT is your
argument.
Thanks,
GerardM


On 1 January 2014 12:21, ???  wrote:

> On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will
>> have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally.
>> Consequently your argument is without real merit.
>> Thanks,
>>   GerardM
>>
>>
>>
>
> The first thing that is wrong with the above is that copyright holders are
> not the Government.
>
>
>
>
>  On 31 December 2013 20:45, ???  wrote:
>>
>>  On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wrote:
>>>
>>>  2013/12/31 ??? 


>
> Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble?
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the-
> case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/
>
>

 This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia Commons?
 Don't you have better (constructive) arguments?


  I'm comparing your attitude that rather than fixing the known copyright
>>> issues upfront one should await complaints before addressing, to be
>>> similar
>>> to that exhibited by megaupload. An attitude that is essentially one of
>>> "We'll get away with it for as long as possible, until someone
>>> complains."
>>> Meanwhile falsely advertising that the content is free to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright URAA trolls on Wikimedia Commons

[???]

On 01/01/2014 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi,
When you go the way of comparing to Kim Dotcom to make a point, you will
have to recognise that the government has been shown to act illegally.
Consequently your argument is without real merit.
Thanks,
  GerardM





The first thing that is wrong with the above is that copyright holders 
are not the Government.





On 31 December 2013 20:45, ???  wrote:


On 31/12/2013 15:01, Yann Forget wrote:


2013/12/31 ??? 




Isn't that the attitude that got Kim Dotcom into trouble?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/us-unveils-the-
case-against-kim-dotcom-revealing-e-mails-and-financial-data/




This is a typical trolling. Comparing Megaupload with Wikimedia Commons?
Don't you have better (constructive) arguments?



I'm comparing your attitude that rather than fixing the known copyright
issues upfront one should await complaints before addressing, to be similar
to that exhibited by megaupload. An attitude that is essentially one of
"We'll get away with it for as long as possible, until someone complains."
Meanwhile falsely advertising that the content is free to use.






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