Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community consultation + Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director selection process

2014-01-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I don't know what to think about a final community consultation on a 
specific name. Personally I suspect that I wouldn't be able to say 
anything about it, as with 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Executive_Director_Transition_Team/Update_9_December.
	Speaking of which, I wonder how the problems there were addressed: 
apparently they just expanded the search and reduced the number of 
people participating, but I see no answers to the question: «Have we 
been looking for a unicorn -- somebody who doesn't exist in the real 
world? [...] too insular? [...] unfairly comparing [...]?».
	If an answer was found, I'd like to know it. To me that only looked 
like a rhetorical question, because of course I have no idea what exact 
criteria/questions/interview practices are being applied or if unfair 
comparisons were made. To avoid another fiasco, it would probably be 
useful to publish on Meta an anonymised table of candidates, pointing 
out strengths and weaknesses in a single line for each. Then one could 
say «oh, look, criterion 175 made 12 otherwise awesome candidates 
fail, do we really need it?».


Nemo

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[Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
[Cross-posted ]

The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in London:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

We've already added sound files to the (English) Wikipedia articles on
Tim Berners-Lee, Agnetha Fältskog, Stanley Johnson and Adrian Lester,
with many more uploaded and awaiting templating:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BBC_voice_samples

Volunteers are beavering away, finding more sound clips to upload.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-18 Thread ???

On 17/01/2014 21:24, Michael Peel wrote:


Doesn’t that break the terms of the CC-BY license, if not legally
then at least ethically? The right to distribute copies is built into
the license, no?



How? If I upload a video to some hosting site and license it CC-BY what
does that have to do with the hosting site?




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-18 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:


 The RFC is non-neutral and unnecessarily complex. With so much
 experience of trying these things, along with full time expertise, I
 would hope for a more sophisticated approach from in-house WMF teams.


It is actually very complex -- legally and technically. And the MPEG-LA
licensors did not gear their licenses or documentation towards
user-generated content, or free culture projects, which makes our job
harder.

-Andrew
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-18 Thread
On 18 January 2014 13:41, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:


 The RFC is non-neutral and unnecessarily complex. With so much
 experience of trying these things, along with full time expertise, I
 would hope for a more sophisticated approach from in-house WMF teams.


 It is actually very complex -- legally and technically. And the MPEG-LA
 licensors did not gear their licenses or documentation towards
 user-generated content, or free culture projects, which makes our job
 harder.

Yes, of course. However the end RFC put to the community need not be
complex. Most of the community will not care about legal or technical
detail, they just want the conclusion.

You may wish to consider whether the technical and legal aspects might
be better explored as essays and included as background in future
proposals, not the meat of the proposal itself. Personally, were I
leading this team, I would make it a requirement that the proposal is
limited to 50 words. Punchy, factual, neutral.

For example, a simple yes/no RFC on adding an ingestion process for
MP4 video upload might now be successful. The legal aspect can be as
simple as WMF legal has determine this poses no risk to the WMF,
uploaders or reusers, refer to essay and the technical aspect could
be See essay for an explanation of optimized transcoding, workflow
processes and test examples. There's nothing new in keeping it
simple.

Fae
-- 
fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 January 2014 11:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in London

Everything is gong well. If people want to help from home (or the
pub), then the files in:

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BBC_voice_samples

need to be categorised, and inserted into articles, as described at

  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
You may like this as well :)
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikidata-wendy-hall-computer-scientist.html
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 18 January 2014 17:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 18 January 2014 11:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
  The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in
 London

 Everything is gong well. If people want to help from home (or the
 pub), then the files in:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BBC_voice_samples

 need to be categorised, and inserted into articles, as described at

   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project

 --
 Andy Mabbett
 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Extensive feedback from WMDE to the FDC process

2014-01-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I take it that the Hungarian chapter takes part in this? I know other
chapters do as well..
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 17 January 2014 18:17, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.huwrote:

 My five cents here would be that how about considering longer time frames
 for grants, like 2-3-5 years (I was too tired to understandably explain
 this yesterday to Anasuya)

 Here in Hungary individuals can offer 1% of their income tax to nonprofit
 organizations (these are accounted and transferred to the nonprofits by the
 state) These funds must be spent within 3 years (so not 1 but 3) from their
 reception (unused funds has to be transferred back at the end of the 3rd
 year).

 Cheers,
 Vince

 *Balazs Viczian*
 Executive Vice President
 *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*

 Tel: +36 70 633 6372
 Mail: balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu
 Web: www.wikimedia.hu  Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazin
 http://huwiki.blogspot.hu
 Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia


 2014/1/17 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se

  While I believe the FDC process by now is well understood and
  communicated, I feel the understanding of the actual group, FDC and the
  deliberation we perform is less well understood (and communicated)
 
  And if WMDE feedback will be elaborated upon, I think it will be of value
  understanding FDC and the deliberation process and I have therefor put
  down a short description of this on the talkpage, based on my own
  experience as one of its member (1)
 
  I see very much in this feedback related to the prerequisites to the FDC,
  not how we have implemented our inputs into recommendations. Also I think
  some of the wanted more detailed feedback and interaction with the FDC
 as a
  group is very hard to implement considering how our deliberation process
  for now is set up .  But feedback is always a good thing and hopefully
 this
  feedback can be processed to improve the process and give all involved a
  happier feeling of the funds dissemination in the future.
 
  Anders
 
  (1) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/FDC_
  portal/Comments/Extensive_feedback_from_WMDE_to_the_FDC_
  process#FDC_as_a_group
 
  Pavel Richter skrev 2014-01-15 17:36:
 
   Hello everybody,
 
  I have just posted an extensive feedback from WMDE on the FDC process
 here
  on meta:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/
  Comments/Extensive_feedback_from_WMDE_to_the_FDC_process
 
  The statement was drafted by WMDE's Supervisory Board and myself.
 
  We are very much looking forward to a discussion and I would like to
  encourage everybody to share their thoughts. At the same it would be
 great
  if we could keep the discussion on meta so that we have everything in
 one
  place.
 
  All the Best,
 
  Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
 
  Pavel Richter
  Vorstand
 
  Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
  Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260
  Twitter: @pavel
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 01/18/2014 10:53 AM, Mark wrote:
 A consensus has emerged that MP4 video uploading can be enabled on
 Wikimedia Commons without major legal or technical problems (see [here]
 for details)

While there are a great deal of interesting philosophical and ethical
questions surrounding this issue, what makes you think that the
existence of legal or technical problems is subject to consensus?

-- Marc


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

2014-01-18 Thread MZMcBride
James Forrester wrote:
On 17 January 2014 08:24, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote:
 Put it inside the following HTML tag:
 div lang=en dir=ltr class=mw-content-ltr
 Your important notification.
 /div


 Of course, it's not great to have to remember to write it every time,
so if
 there is a way to automate in MassMessage or EdwardsBot or whatever is
used
 to send these messages, it would be great.

Filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60176.

​J.
-- 
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

2014-01-18 Thread MZMcBride
(Sorry about the mis-post. Apparently hitting command-return sends a
message... who knew.)

James Forrester wrote:
On 17 January 2014 08:24, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote:
 Put it inside the following HTML tag:
 div lang=en dir=ltr class=mw-content-ltr
 Your important notification.
 /div

 Of course, it's not great to have to remember to write it every time,
so if there is a way to automate in MassMessage or EdwardsBot or
whatever is used to send these messages, it would be great.

Filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60176

Agreed that it's not great. On the other hand, if you're communicating
with a global audience, there's a little expectation that it'll be
slightly more work, in my opinion. :-)

This same point is true of mass messaging generally, regardless of
language or wrapper divs or what-have-you. If you're doing something once
or you're doing something ten-thousand times _at_ once, you need to
appropriately take the time to make sure you're crossing your Ts and
dotting your Is before hitting send.

(And for the record, MassMessage will not be implementing that
command-return shortcut. Gah.)

Not including a timestamp is another pattern of behavior that causes
issues: due to the way that archive bots operate, they need an
identifiable timestamp. I believe the thinking there was to add some
JavaScript to check for the presence of ~ or equivalent and warn the
user if it's not present (just warn, not stop). We could do something
similar for dir= and such perhaps.

Or we could add a my content is in [lang name] drop-down menu that
defaults to the user's language preference, maybe.

div lang=en dir=ltr class=mw-content-ltr

I guess you'd need to map language name to lang= and then have a
dictionary for which are rtl and which are ltr, which could then also
control the class? Bleh.

Or browsers could just forgive us for our trespasses and not misbehave.

Perhaps others have thoughts about how to do this well. It doesn't seem
like a very easy problem, but maybe I'm missing the obvious.

MZMcBride



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[Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee election results

2014-01-18 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear Community Members,

I am happy to let you know that the Affiliations Committee has finished the
selection process for the 2014-2015.

The six sitting members of the Committee will be joined by four very
experienced Wikimedians:


   - Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
   - Kirill Lokshin
   - Galileo Vidoni (re-appointment)
   - Lodewijk Gelauff (re-appointment)

Along with the vast Wikimedia experience they bring to the Committee, we
really appreciate the organisational development, governance and language
skills that are being brought on-board (and stays on-board with the
re-appointments).

I would like to thank everyone who has applied to a position in the
Committee. While due to practical reasons, we could not accept everyone,
but anyone who has considered applying and helping other volunteers through
this Committee are a huge asset to this movement, and I really hope they
will all find places and roles where they can help our movement grow.

I would also like to thank our vice-chair, Carlos, who has run much of the
selection process behind the scenes ensuring that both the applicants and
the Committee members have a smooth experience.

The appointing resolution has been published at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Membership_%E2%80%93_January_2014

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Membership_%E2%80%93_January_2014
If you are considering on becoming a member in the future, please sign up
here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliations_Committee#Future_members.
The next call for candidates is expected in November 2014, with new members
joining in January 2015.

Best regards,
Bence Damokos
Chair,
Affiliations Committee
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