[Wikimedia-l] Agenda Board of Trustees Spring Meeting
Dear fellow members of the community, Following is the board agenda for next weeks meeting. As usual we have tried to make room for more substance rather than process. After a thorough consultation period the board will be discussing the amendment to the terms of use with regards to undisclosed paid editing and we will spend a significant amount of time in an executive session thinking about different aspects of our board and its role in different processes of the movement. We will also be reflecting on the Wikimedia Conference 2014, where 6 board members were present. Jan-Bart de Vreede Chair Wikimedia Board of Trustees PS: As always I would ask you to discuss the agenda and other board related topics at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard rather than on the mailing list == Thursday, April 24, 2014 == Executive Session Strategy Considerations (Open Discussion) Board Development Chapters Dialogue Update Transition Team == Friday, April 25, 2014 == Housekeeping Items Status update on the Annual Plan News from AffCom and FDC News from committees Investment Policy Privacy policy Amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing Discussion on user groups Open and Action Items Executive Session ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT
Great news. Congratulations, WMID HOT OSM! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Isabella Apriyana isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id wrote: Hi Asaf, We will update the wiki page soon, including all budget and activity plans. We'll inform you the soonest! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Congratulations, WMID and HOT OSM! Where can one read more about the project? The link provided was not enough for me to get a sense for what the grant actually funds, and it would be interesting to learn from, and perhaps applicable elsewhere too. Thanks, Asaf On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Congrats! Eager to see what great things are built. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Isabella Apriyana isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id wrote: Dear all, We are happy to inform you that Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT OSM) just received the news that our proposal submitted to Making All Voices Count grant program was accepted. We got £ 31,000 worth of grant to work on growing open content in Kalimantan, Indonesia. The proposal was submitted last year and co-written by Wikimedia (Siska Doviana, Ivonne Kristiani, John Vandenberg) and HOT OSM (Kate Chapman and Yantisa Akhadi). We are so excited because this is our first big collaboration project together and out of 500 proposals worldwide (well, seven countries) only 28 received funding, and we are one of them. We also realized that we just became internationally competitive in grant seeking. Thank you to them, and back to work for us! Official page from Making All Voices Count: http://www.makingallvoicescount.org/project/open-content-in-kalimantan-wikipedia-openstreetmap-for-transparency/ Cheers, -- *Isabella Apriyana* *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral* *(Deputy Secretary General)Wikimedia Indonesia* Seluler +628889752858/ +6281213700084 Surel isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi Support us to free the knowledge! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Isabella Apriyana* *Wakil Sekretaris Jendral* *(Deputy Secretary General)Wikimedia Indonesia* Seluler +628889752858/ +6281213700084 Surel isabella.apriy...@wikimedia.or.id Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi Support us to free the knowledge! http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
The press release, signed by LiAnna Davis, Head of Communications and External Relations, that Andreas links to in his comment says, The program, in which students write Wikipedia articles in place of traditional term papers, created the equivalent of more than 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term of 2013 and the equivalent of more than 36,000 printed pages of content since its start in 2010. Can anybody point to a source for the 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term - particularly the evidence for the high quality of that content? Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2014 15:19, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: ... Apparently, Tim Sandole complains of not having been managed properly by anybody, saying, The person I dealt with at Wikimedia didn't seem to know anything about Wikipedia. I believe it was clear from Sue's frank report and Pete's more detailed report, that knowledge of Wikipedia was not required by the manager within the Foundation that Sandole was reporting to. It is no surprise that someone within the Funding department might not be an expert in English Wikipedia policies or guidelines for editors. Does anyone know of any positive action taken yet by the Foundation as a result of this governance failure, beyond Sue's report? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
Sorry. I just realised what the heading of this thread is. I'll email LiAnna directly. Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: The press release, signed by LiAnna Davis, Head of Communications and External Relations, that Andreas links to in his comment says, The program, in which students write Wikipedia articles in place of traditional term papers, created the equivalent of more than 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term of 2013 and the equivalent of more than 36,000 printed pages of content since its start in 2010. Can anybody point to a source for the 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term - particularly the evidence for the high quality of that content? Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2014 15:19, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: ... Apparently, Tim Sandole complains of not having been managed properly by anybody, saying, The person I dealt with at Wikimedia didn't seem to know anything about Wikipedia. I believe it was clear from Sue's frank report and Pete's more detailed report, that knowledge of Wikipedia was not required by the manager within the Foundation that Sandole was reporting to. It is no surprise that someone within the Funding department might not be an expert in English Wikipedia policies or guidelines for editors. Does anyone know of any positive action taken yet by the Foundation as a result of this governance failure, beyond Sue's report? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
Bear in mind her email address has now changed as she's moved to @wikiedfoundation.org E.g. this link re: quality http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/10/04/spring-2012-wikipedia-education-program-quality/ but I've seen more recent stuff Simon -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Cole Sent: 19 April 2014 15:15 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding Sorry. I just realised what the heading of this thread is. I'll email LiAnna directly. Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: The press release, signed by LiAnna Davis, Head of Communications and External Relations, that Andreas links to in his comment says, The program, in which students write Wikipedia articles in place of traditional term papers, created the equivalent of more than 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term of 2013 and the equivalent of more than 36,000 printed pages of content since its start in 2010. Can anybody point to a source for the 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term - particularly the evidence for the high quality of that content? Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2014 15:19, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: ... Apparently, Tim Sandole complains of not having been managed properly by anybody, saying, The person I dealt with at Wikimedia didn't seem to know anything about Wikipedia. I believe it was clear from Sue's frank report and Pete's more detailed report, that knowledge of Wikipedia was not required by the manager within the Foundation that Sandole was reporting to. It is no surprise that someone within the Funding department might not be an expert in English Wikipedia policies or guidelines for editors. Does anyone know of any positive action taken yet by the Foundation as a result of this governance failure, beyond Sue's report? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor Office Hours for March April
Hi, guys. The April office hour for VisualEditor is coming up in about 90 minutes. :) Hope to see you there! Maggie On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Just a reminder: the April office hour for VisualEditor is taking place in a few days, on Saturday April 19 at 2000 UTC. Thanks! Maggie On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Reminder - the first of these is taking place today in about 10 minutes. The second will be on March 19 at 0100 UTC. Hope to see you there! Maggie On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi, guys. I just wanted to let you know, so you could mark your calendars if interested, that there are two IRC office hours scheduled to discuss VisualEditor in March and one in April. The first will be held on Monday March 17 at 1500 UTC and the second will be held on Wednesday March 19 at 0100 UTC. (See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for time conversion links.) Logs will be posted on meta after each office hour completes. You'll find them, along with logs for older office hours on the topic, at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:VisualEditor_office_hours_logs The April office hour is scheduled for Saturday April 19 at 2000 UTC. Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for more information on what office hours are and how to join in. Thanks! Maggie -- Maggie Dennis Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. -- Maggie Dennis Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. -- Maggie Dennis Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. -- Maggie Dennis Senior Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: Can anybody point to a source for the 7,000 printed pages of new, high-quality content during the fall term - particularly the evidence for the high quality of that content? Replying on-list since you asked on-list. :) We've done two quality studies on articles written by students participating in the Wikipedia Education Program in the U.S. and Canada, one covering the first two terms of the pilot (fall 2010 and spring 2011) and then again a year later, in spring 2012. Here's the 2010-11: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Student_Contributions_to_Wikipedia Here's the spring 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Research/Article_quality/Results As you might imagine, hand-assessing two versions of an article (the version immediately prior to the student's first edit and the version it was at their last edit) is an extremely time-consuming process. Given we found pretty similar results (the vast majority of students significantly improve articles through our program), we have stopped doing these studies because they take up so much valuable volunteer time. If there were an automatic way to gauge article quality that didn't involve volunteer time, I'd love to repeat the study every term, but I haven't seen any good way of gauging article quality that doesn't involve hand assessment of articles. In terms of the 7,000 printed pages, we use WikiMetrics ( https://metrics.wmflabs.org/) to determine how much content students add to the article namespace each term. Hope this helps. LiAnna -- LiAnna Davis Head of Communications and External Relations Wiki Education Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username
On a second thought, do we want to add an optional affiliation field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in braces? - DGarry (WMF) - Fred (DesignSolutionsInc) - David (MIT) - ... So the signup form would look like this: - | | | [ Username preview in large green font ]| | | | Username: | | ___| | Password: | | ___| | Password 2: | | ___| | Email (optional): | | ___| | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | ___| | | - I.e. - | | | [ Gryllida (FOO) in large green font ]| | | | Username: | | _Gryllida__| | Password: | | ___| | Password 2: | | ___| | Email (optional): | | ___| | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | _FOO___| | | - Gryllida. On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote: hi, could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile 3. allow to select one of the groups joined to an edit when saving 4. add a checkbox COI to an edit, meaning potential conflict of interest 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group page, or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page. reason: currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most prominent examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend to create multiple accounts, and try to create company accounts. the main reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general): * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive for other users * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the german community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may continue to use sue gardner (wmf) accounts. what you think? best regards, rupert --- swissGLAMour, http://wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username
I hear where you're coming from, Gryllida. This only works if there is some mechanism by which the affiliation can be confirmed. The (WMF) affiliation is easily confirmed, and in fact anyone adding that affiliation to their account name who isn't a WMF staffer gets blocked pretty quickly. However, there's no easy mechanism to verify an affiliation external to the WMF family. I understand our colleagues at the German Wikipedia have a process for verifying authorized accounts for specific entities, but their community considers them role accounts and restricts them in particular ways. Other projects, including English Wikipedia, have essentially banned role accounts. What would happen if David (MIT) accepts a position at Stanford? Does he have to change his username to David (Stanford) - oh, that won't work since the original edits would be related to MIT...so he'd have to start a new account David (Stanford), and somehow link them. What issues would arise if the user doesn't want to change usernames once he's no longer affiliated with an organization? I admit I'm partial to what German Wikipedia is doing with role accounts for organizations, but given the harshness toward commerce accounts on some other projects, I'm not sure it would work universally. Best, Risker/Anne On 19 April 2014 19:17, Gryllida gryll...@fastmail.fm wrote: On a second thought, do we want to add an optional affiliation field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in braces? - DGarry (WMF) - Fred (DesignSolutionsInc) - David (MIT) - ... So the signup form would look like this: - | | | [ Username preview in large green font ]| | | | Username: | | ___| | Password: | | ___| | Password 2: | | ___| | Email (optional): | | ___| | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | ___| | | - I.e. - | | | [ Gryllida (FOO) in large green font ]| | | | Username: | | _Gryllida__| | Password: | | ___| | Password 2: | | ___| | Email (optional): | | ___| | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | _FOO___| | | - Gryllida. On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote: hi, could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile 3. allow to select one of the groups joined to an edit when saving 4. add a checkbox COI to an edit, meaning potential conflict of interest 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group page, or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page. reason: currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most prominent examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend to create multiple accounts, and try to create company accounts. the main reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general): * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive for other users * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee this then would allow the
[Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive
There are ~6000 languages in the world and around 3000 of them have more than 10,000 speakers. That approximation has some issues, but they are compensated by the ambiguity of the opposition. Ethnologue is not the best place to find precise data about the languages and it could count as languages just close varieties of one language, but it also doesn't count some other languages. Not all of the languages with 10,000 or more speakers have positive attitude toward their languages, but there are languages with smaller number of speakers with very positive attitude toward their own language. So, that number is what we could count as the realistic final number of the language editions of Wikimedia projects. At the moment, we have less than 300 language editions. * * * There is the question: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to me: Because we can. Yes, there are maybe more specific organizations which could do that, but it's not about expertise, but about ability. Fortunately, we don't need to search for historical examples for comparisons; the Internet is good enough. I still remember infographic of the time while all of us thought that Flickr is the place for images. It turned out that the biggest repository of images is actually Facebook, which had hundred times more of them than the Twitpic at the second place, which, in turn, had hundred times more of images than Flickr. In other words, the purpose of something and general perception of its purpose is not enough for doing good job. As well as comparisons between mismanaged internet projects and mismanaged traditional scientific and educational organizations are numerous. At this point of time Wikimedia all necessary capacities -- and even a will to take that job. So, we should start doing that, finally :) * * * There is also the question: How can we do that? In short, because of Wikipedia. I announced Microgrants project of Wikimedia Serbia yesterday. To be honest, we have very low expectations. When I said to Filip that I want to have 10 active community members after the project, he said that I am overambitious. Yes, I am. But ten hours later I've got the first response and I was very positively surprised by a lot of things. The most relevant for this story is that a person from a city in Serbia proper is very enthusiastic about Wikipedia and contributing to it (and organizing contributors in the area). I didn't hear that for years! (Maybe I was just too pessimistic because of my obsession with statistics.) Keeping in mind her position (she said that she was always complaining about lack of material on Serbian Wikipedia, although at this point of time it's the encyclopedia in Serbian with the most relevant content) and her enthusiasm, I am completely sure that many speakers of many small languages are dreaming from time to time to have Wikipedia in their native language. Like in the case of a Serbian from the fifth or sixth largest city in Serbia, I am sure that they just don't know how to do that. So, it's up to us to reach them. English Wikipedia has some influences on contemporary English language (citation needed, let's say). It has more influences on languages with smaller number of speakers, like Serbian is (Cyrillic/Latin cultural war in Serbia was over at the moment when Serbian Wikipedia implemented transliteration engine; it's no issue now, while it was the issue up to mid 2000s). But it's about well developed languages in the cultural sense. What about not that developed ones? While I don't have an example of the effects (anyone, please?), counting the amount of the written materials in some languages, Wikipedia will (or already has) become the biggest book, sometimes the biggest library in that language; in some cases Wikipedia will create the majority of texts written in particular language! While we think about Wikipedia as valuable resource for learning about wide range of the topics, significance of Wikipedia for those peoples would be much higher. If we do the job, there will be many monuments to Wikipedia all over the world, because Wikipedia would preserve many cultures, not just the languages. * * * There is the question How?, at the end. There are numerous of possible ways and there are also some tries to do that, but we have to create the plan how to do that systematically, well, according to our principles and goals and according to the reality. What we know from our previous experiences: * The number of editors has declined and, at the moment, without a miracle (or hard work, but I assume the most of our movement is used to miracles, not to hard work), the trend will continue. Contrary to that, number of readers has increased. Unfortunately, in this case a miracle is not necessary for that trend to end. * If we count languages with relevant statistics for editors per million, the top of them belong either to the highly motivated communities (Hebrew), either to the rich countries with harsh climate,