El 21/04/2014 02:15 a.m., Asaf Bartov escribió:
3. An example: some time ago, our colleagues in Chile wanted to spend (not
a lot of) movement funds on printing the Welcome to Wikipedia booklet in
Rapa Nui. Rapa Nui is (perhaps) spoken by fewer than 3000 people, no doubt
mostly without facility
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, at 0:58, Isarra Yos wrote:
On 20/04/14 11:50, Liangent wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.comwrote:
Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39:
Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with
parentheses.
It
Christopher, Aya,
Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es
Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to score.
Richard Symonds
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Milos Rancic, 21/04/2014 00:18:
* Nemo, the right approach is: those projects failed and there are
reasons for that. What are the reasons? How can we fix it in future
cases? How can we revive failed projects? I don't accept not
possible answer:)
Sometimes you have to accept it. :) I only talk
Hello Milos,
welcome back.
Basically I agree with your attitude, with one difference:
I don't think that anyone can help languages survive. What we can do, is
to help conserve them.
Greetings
Ting
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This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia
alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the
cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs
people like [[Pompeu Fabra]] and [[Vuk Stefanović Karadžić]] and, dare I
say,
[snip]
For the things we could do, I quote form other people:
* encourage Wikisource, Commons, Wiktionary as primary projects for
new/endangered languages.
You could scan books or documents if the language is written, or record
audio/interviews and put that on Commons if t the language is just
I'd certainly take quite a broad view of which languages fulfill our
mission. Certainly I wouldn't be comfortable with arguments as simple as
All people who speak Y also read X, so there's no purpose putting
resources into Y.
Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh;
I cannot cite anything, but there should be studies that show that even
though most people are bilingual or reported as bilingual in their
regional language and another major language, they are more comfortable in
getting education in their regional language. I'm pretty sure that there
are such
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia
alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the
cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages
With this I agree. If this depended on me, I'd give this resources.
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2014-04-22 15:43 GMT+03:00 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Apr 22,
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Projects that are focused on language revitalization per se should be
given less priority when resources are limited, even though it breaks
my heart to say this.
I don't think that we are dealing here with
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Chris Keating
chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh; I
wonder if Robin Owain reads this list? He's a good person to speak to about
this.
I mentioned Scots Gaelic with a good reason. Not counting
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
That means that it's the best starting point to raise that number from
157 per million to ~1000 per million. If WM UK would be successful in
achieving that goal, we'd know that it's possible. And we'll have some
ideas how
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
That means that it's the best starting point to raise that number from
157 per million to ~1000 per million. If WM UK would be successful in
achieving
Hey everyone :)
I'll be doing another Wikidata office hour on IRC. It will take place
on May 19th at 5PM UTC in #wikimedia-office. For your timezone please
see
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Wikidata+office+houriso=20140519T17p1=136ah=1
I'll be giving a status update
How many languages exist?
|_ How many languages have written works?
|_How many languages have UNICODE support?
That is the max number of Wikisource projects we can create :-P
2014-04-22 15:12 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Milos Rancic
Unicode support is not that big of a deal. It's growing all the time, and
the Unicode standard itself is ahead of Wikipedia and will likely remain
ahead of it for a while. The operating systems' actual support for it is
far from perfect, but it isn't a huge in itself either.
Existence of written
Excellent!! Great news!
Felicitaciones a todos amigos de Wikimedia México!
Best regards
Rodrigo Padula
Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
Education Program Coordinator - Brazil
Ação Educativa
2014-04-21 14:27 GMT-03:00 Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org:
Dear Wikimedians,
On the
¡Felicitaciones a los hermanos mexicanos!
– Patricio
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we
have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be
Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a matrix
indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion?
Kind Regards,
Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Christopher,
The Wikimedia Nederland monthly report over March is available on meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201403
.
It is also included as text in this message.
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I cannot cite anything, but there should be studies that show that even
though most people are bilingual or reported as bilingual in their
regional language and another major language, they are more
Thanks, Sandra.
Especially, congratulations for your big external fund!
Best
Cornelius
Cornelius Kibelka
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Mobile:+351-91-9860232 (Vodafone PT)
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On 22 April 2014 10:08, Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
rient...@wikimedia.nl
Thanks for the information. I've updated
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids based on this
information.
I agree with Aya that a public posting of the scoring matrix would be great
as well.
Kind regards,
Christopher
User: CT Cooper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper
Dear all,
As it happens with education program regarding the material provided like
Case of Studies, Is there anything similar relative to the different
funding strategies carried out by the the chapters?
Thanks in advance!
--
Anna Torres Adell
Directora Ejecutiva
*A.C Wikimedia Argentina*
I second what Amir is saying, although I understand the heartbreak.
Ido
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No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
happened in previous years.
I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public -
and for that matter, neither did I! I am also
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's
happened in previous years.
I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the
bidders didn't know that
@Richard
I know that no public reports were released previously. But if it starts to
be a habit, it will help elevate the transparency of the process.
Concerning the grid the Judges real names can be anonymized to be Judge 1,
Judge 2 and so on. As for the second guessing issue, I think it can
I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes
some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the least worst
and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think people
understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury
Michael, thanks for the recommendations. We will add this information to
the public information of the event. I think most popular overland ways to
come to Mexico from the States are safe, but is more safe have this
information direct from the Mexico Federal Government.
Regards.
2014-04-22
Hi Steven!
Thanks for your comments. I'm part of the WMMX bidding team and I happen to
live in the Centro Historico area (only a few bus stops away from the
venue). Even though it's anecdotal, I can say that *a good deal of my free
time is spent in this zone and I've never experienced crime
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote:
[snip]
For the things we could do, I quote form other people:
* encourage Wikisource, Commons, Wiktionary as primary projects for
new/endangered languages.
You could scan books or documents if the language is
Congratulations Mexico! I can't wait to visit the amazing Mexico City :)
And, a big thank you to all the bidders, everyone who commented and
participated, and to the selection jury, steering committee, and Ellie.
This is the first year in a long time that I haven't been involved in the
Wikimania
In addition to the articles listed in the previous email, we have also
published an op-ed this week titled Five things a Wikipedian in residence
can do by Pete Forsyth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-23/Op-ed
Comments and thoughts are always welcome!
Thanks,
I've moved this discussion from an earlier thread. [1] There, I asked
about this April 14 press release from the Wiki Education Foundation, [2]
The press release ... says, 'The program, in which students write
Wikipedia articles in place of traditional term papers, created the
equivalent of more
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