[Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee Vice-Chair
Hi all, It is with great pleasure that I can announce that the Affiliations Committee has selected Greg Varnum as its vice chair for the next year. He ran on a platform of helping the committee improve communication with the WMF Board (and other stakeholders) and shifting the committee's work toward a more active capacity building role. You can learn more about Greg at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Members#Current_members(scroll down). The appointing resolution has been posted at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Vice_Chair_selection_2014_-_May_2014 Best regards, Bence Damokos, Affiliations Committee @WikimediaAffCom ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On Fri May 23 23:06:32 UTC 2014 Wil Sinclair wrote: The trash talk. . . Most of the concerns I've heard about WO involve the snarky, personal comments that are front and center in the forums. On Sat May 24 21:33:07 UTC 2014 David Gerard wrote: It's a festering pit of spammers, trolls and nutters, and is a net negative in just about every way. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On 25 May 2014 01:11, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Thanks, David, and I agree 100% that there's a lot that I can only learn by participating. That's one reason I'm here. :) I've also been uploading sound loops to Commons, and I'm working on a few new articles on various pet interests of mine. I think the one thing left that Fae suggested I do is edit a BLP, IIRC. I know that there has been some discussion about how to handle BLP's here and on WO. These particular issues seem much harder to grok without some experience, so I think Fae was on-point when he suggested I just dive right in. The main thing to keep in mind is that, even when the community members are being INFURIATING IDIOTS (and almost certainly considering you an infuriating idiot in turn) - that what we're doing here is actually making the world a better place, dot by dot. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On 25/05/2014 12:16, David Gerard wrote: The main thing to keep in mind is that, even when the community members are being INFURIATING IDIOTS (and almost certainly considering you an infuriating idiot in turn) - that what we're doing here is actually making the world a better place, dot by dot. Remember that criticism also makes the world a better place. Not in that happy-clappy inane smile kind of way, but, simply, a better place. I could give you many examples of this. E ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:16 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: The main thing to keep in mind is that, even when the community members are being INFURIATING IDIOTS (and almost certainly considering you an infuriating idiot in turn) - that what we're doing here is actually making the world a better place, dot by dot. That sounds like a faith-based statement, rather than a rational one. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
Wil Sinclair, 25/05/2014 02:00: why are so many contributors, admins, and upstanding members of the WP community going there to discuss issues instead of talking through them in places like this forum? *ding don* false dichotomy bell rings: why are so many discussing about wiki stuff on Facebook? Or in person with their family? Or or or or or? Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
MZMcBride wrote: I've read your replies and I understand what you're saying (succinctly summarized by you as ,Wil!=LilaWil!=WMF), but what you're saying and what your actions are saying seem to be in contrast. If you want to get involved with Wikimedia, by all means, that would be great. But getting involved means contributing to free educational content and the surrounding movement. All you have to do is be bold and just click edit, as they say. Until then, there will be a sizable contingency watching and waiting for what will come of the decision to appoint your partner as Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation and what her role and yours mean to the future of Wikimedia. If nothing else, this mailing list thread can serve to teach me that I wanted contingent there, not contingency. I also used hierarchal instead of hierarchical this month before re-realizing that even though hierarchal is a real word and won't be marked as a misspelling, it's still not the word I want. English is cruel. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC recommendation round 2 announced
Thanks for the much more detailed reasoning and feedback! This actually gives a good insight why decisions were taken as they were and a major improvement compared to previous rounds. Lodewijk 2014-05-25 0:12 GMT+02:00 Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com: Hello everyone, I thank you all for your encouraging comments on behalf of the FDC. We will be very happy to see our recommendations materialise for the benefit of the Wikimedia movement as a whole. We are grateful to everyone who has been a part of this process so far. Regards Ali Haidar Khan On May 24, 2014 9:06 PM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thank you FDC for completing this work and providing valuable feedback. As we continue to improve our planning process and our funding programs we hope to make your work easier as well. Thanks everyone else who has participated with comments and recommendations. Lila On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear Dariusz and FDC, Thank you for this fine recommendation. I just read through it for the first time (of many, I expect), and the analyses are clearly getting crisper over time. There are many constructive details packed into each review, and the results are relevant both to the applying organizations, and to how we plan for the future. I am glad to see the analysis of the excellent Wikimedia France proposal. And both the CIS and the Wikimedia Norge proposals seem to have been complicated in their own way, but were handled smoothly. The analysis of WMF's own proposal is clear and rewardingly thorough. (Other organizations may be jealous and ask for a more detailed report next time) A few points I found particularly useful: the focus on areas where we need clearer goals + measures, the detailed feedback on technical changes, and the observation that legal work is a significant part of our budget and work, and central to our mission, but here was lumped in with administration. The last point is indicative of a larger blind spot, I think. I also appreciate the emphasis on regular checks of our work against a strategy, and the need to organize an effective transition to new strategic goals. The suggestions for a community-led strategy advisory group, and for a pool of global metrics for [cross-]evaluation, are well considered. Both could also make the FDC's work easier in the future... Congratulations on this work. And good luck to those FDC advisors meeting over the coming days. Sam. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: Hello friends, The Funds Dissemination Committee meets twice annually to help make decisions about how to effectively allocate movement funds to achieve the Wikimedia movement's mission, vision, and strategy. [1] On behalf of the committee, I am pleased to announce that Round 2 2013-2014 recommendations to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees have now been posted on Meta [2]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2013-2014_round2 The WMF Board will make their decision on these recommendations by 1 July 2014. For the second round of this fiscal year, the committee received four proposals. [3] These four proposals came from two chapters, WMF and one non-Wikimedia organization, totaling requests of '''$1.56''' million USD. Prior to our face-to-face deliberations in Frankfurt from 21st-24th May, the FDC reviewed the proposals in careful detail, aided by staff assessments and analysis on programs, finances, grant compliance and history, as well as community comments on the proposals. Staff presented an overview of these findings to the FDC during the deliberations. The FDC and FDC staff also asked clarifying questions to the entities on the proposal form discussion pages during the four-week community review period (and prior to the publishing of staff assessments), and observed the discussions about the proposals. The committee thanks all organizations that submitted proposals, as it required significant effort to both create the proposal and to respond to the questions and feedback from the community, FDC, and FDC staff. We sincerely appreciate them all for this work. For formal complaints or appeals about the recommendations, there is a separate process that entities should follow. Note that at the request of many stakeholders, we are clarifying the complaints and appeals terminology so that complaints are made about the process to the ombudsperson and appeals on the recommendations are made to the WMF Board representatives. These are further explained below: Any organization that would like to submit an appeal on the
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
*ding don* false dichotomy bell rings: why are so many discussing about wiki stuff on Facebook? Or in person with their family? Or or or or or? Besides knowing for a fact that we're not discussing anything like this in our family for obvious reasons, I don't know whether they are being discussed on Facebook or elsewhere. But I do know that they are being discussed quite rigorously on Wikipediocracy. People can even check for themselves, if they'd like: http://wikipediocracy.com Please send me any links you have to Facebook pages, etc. Thanks! ,Wil ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:16 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: The main thing to keep in mind is that, even when the community members are being INFURIATING IDIOTS (and almost certainly considering you an infuriating idiot in turn) - that what we're doing here is actually making the world a better place, dot by dot. That sounds like a faith-based statement, rather than a rational one. If it is, then I will take faith in what David says. I'm sure everyone here would like to contribute in their own way, and we all know how hard that can get in groups. Even for small ones like this. ;) ,Wil ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On 25 May 2014 17:04, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Besides knowing for a fact that we're not discussing anything like this in our family for obvious reasons, I don't know whether they are being discussed on Facebook or elsewhere. But I do know that they are being discussed quite rigorously on Wikipediocracy. People can even check for themselves, if they'd like: http://wikipediocracy.com Please send me any links you have to Facebook pages, etc. Thanks! ,Wil Seeing the partner of the WMF ED going out of his way actively to run about on multiple public channels to support and promote Wikipediocracy, a website owned by Gregory Kohs and which is used by him to lobby his obsessive anti-Wikimedia yellow journalism, is increasingly disturbing and worrying. It would have been great had Wil taken the advice from the most experienced long term Wikimedia volunteers and re-focused for a month or two on gaining practical experience at volunteering on Wikimedia projects, and in turn gaining the trust of fellow volunteers, before attempting to single-handedly attempt to take a lead on community politics by using the name of his parter as his calling card. Were he writing on Wikipediocracy using the benefit of that experience, then this would feel rather less like Wil taking his views from that site and immediately promoting them on Wikimedia channels. Lila Tretikov will need to work extremely hard with the (productive) volunteer community to gain confidence in her personal judgement when it comes to holding the future strategy for the Wikimedia Community and remove the bad taste this political gaming is leaving behind. Along with the inevitable suspicion that this has been a not-very-covert ploy by Lila to jumpstart re-engineering our community. Do any WMF Trustees have an opinion about these shenanigans by Wil, or even better, Lila? Wil - take a break away from the keyboard, and seek some sensible advice before going yet further along the public path you are committing yourself and Lila to. At this point, I find it had to imagine any scenario where your actions this week turn out to have been a clever and wise strategy for Wikimedia. Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: And this conversation is getting pretty repetitive, isn't it? Yep! Remember that some of the harsher reactions here have more to do with WR/WO than you. Hope the long string of uniformly negative reactions on the list haven't put you off Wikimedia or participating, though it doesn't look like it has. At least it serves as a good warning and example - this is what Wikimedians are like ;) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of the main projects is for? I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see slides or overviews. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
What's the intended use? I may have one that will work. Write me offlist with details. :) pb — Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc On May 25, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of the main projects is for? I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see slides or overviews. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
For a small public talk to let people know how to use the different projects -- what they can post and what they can find. Maybe a screenshot from an interesting feature/subproject on each. 20-30 slides. Thank you. From: pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:44:03 -0700 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia? What's the intended use? I may have one that will work. Write me offlist with details. :) pb — Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc On May 25, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of the main projects is for? I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see slides or overviews. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
For info: the relevant Commons category for Wikimedia slide decks is at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_presentations ... but that's a bit of a mess (e.g. no ordering by date, and videos are mixed in with slide decks), so it may be tricky to find what you need there... Thanks, Mike On 26 May 2014, at 00:10, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: For a small public talk to let people know how to use the different projects -- what they can post and what they can find. Maybe a screenshot from an interesting feature/subproject on each. 20-30 slides. Thank you. From: pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:44:03 -0700 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia? What's the intended use? I may have one that will work. Write me offlist with details. :) pb — Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc On May 25, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of the main projects is for? I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see slides or overviews. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
Thanks, is there a way to search Commons by date-range or by file-type? I see pdfs, are there odp or ppt decks also? From: em...@mikepeel.net Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 00:14:37 +0100 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia? For info: the relevant Commons category for Wikimedia slide decks is at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_presentations ... but that's a bit of a mess (e.g. no ordering by date, and videos are mixed in with slide decks), so it may be tricky to find what you need there... Thanks, Mike On 26 May 2014, at 00:10, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: For a small public talk to let people know how to use the different projects -- what they can post and what they can find. Maybe a screenshot from an interesting feature/subproject on each. 20-30 slides. Thank you. From: pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:44:03 -0700 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia? What's the intended use? I may have one that will work. Write me offlist with details. :) pb — Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc On May 25, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Yves Z zyzz...@outlook.com wrote: Hello, Where can I find recent presentations about Wikimedia and what each of the main projects is for? I visited outreach.wikimedia.org but didn't see slides or overviews. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
