Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Congratulations Tim! It's great to learn that you've been selected as the Chair of the Supervisory Board. Wishing you all the best. Regards, Tanweer Morshed Member, Executive Committee Wikimedia Bangladesh On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.comwrote: Congratulations Tim for your new role! On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote: Congratulations on your new role -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Viel gluck damit, fur dich Tim und dein neues team! Erlend Wmno Den tirsdag 27. mai 2014 skrev Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com følgende: Congratulations Tim! It's great to learn that you've been selected as the Chair of the Supervisory Board. Wishing you all the best. Regards, Tanweer Morshed Member, Executive Committee Wikimedia Bangladesh On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.comjavascript:; wrote: Congratulations Tim for your new role! On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.namejavascript:; wrote: Congratulations on your new role -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has been changed from “members” to “active members”. How is active members defined? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Have a look at our Charter §§3–4, esp. §3 (3)–(5) http://wikimedia.de/wiki/Satzung/en : §3 (3) Active members have the right to elect and to stand for election as well as the right to file motions, vote, and speak at the Members Assembly. §3 (4) Sustaining members have the right to speak and file motions at assemblies, but no right to vote or elect. §3 (5) Honorary members (currently just Jimbo Wales) are exempt from the obligation to pay fees but have all the rights and duties of active members. Cheers, Martin 2014-05-27 15:18 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has been changed from “members” to “active members”. How is active members defined? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Am 27.05.2014 15:18, schrieb Andy Mabbett: On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has been changed from “members” to “active members”. How is active members defined? This is a membership status. Active members can vote and are elegible for any position that requires elections, such as being on the board. This is a status each member can choose freely when they become members (and they can change their status afterwards). If you choose to be a supporting member, you basically choose to support the chapter with your membership fees without wanting to get involved in the politics. The above mentioned change basically makes it way easier to request an extraordinary assembly. Best, Markus -- Markus Glaser Präsidium Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Hi, Today daily mail published a news about Wikipedia Medical related entries. Title of this news: *Do NOT try to diagnose yourself on Wikipedia! 90% of its medical entries are inaccurate, say experts* *! * Anyone clarify this issue please? Check this link for news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2639910/Do-NOT-try-diagnose-Wikipedia-90-medical-entries-inaccurate-say-expertsDo.html -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Hi Nurunnaby, A similar story has appeared in the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10857468/Dont-diagnose-yourself-on-Wikipedia-doctors-warn.html- and the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27586356 The BBC piece is the best of the three and WMUK has reached out to all three sources. The article stems from a report published a while ago by the Journal of the American Osteopathic Association. The paper was discussed by members of WikiProject Medicine and some issues found in its methodology. I hope this is helpful, Stevie On 27 May 2014 14:39, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.com wrote: Hi, Today daily mail published a news about Wikipedia Medical related entries. Title of this news: *Do NOT try to diagnose yourself on Wikipedia! 90% of its medical entries are inaccurate, say experts* *! * Anyone clarify this issue please? Check this link for news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2639910/Do-NOT-try-diagnose-Wikipedia-90-medical-entries-inaccurate-say-expertsDo.html -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
I think one of our friends who is US based can more helpfully answer this, but I believe osteopathy in the US is somehow different from elsewhere. I couldn't tell you how, but I seem to remember this being the case. On 27 May 2014 15:01, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Markus Glaser markus.gla...@wikimedia.dewrote: Am 27.05.2014 15:18, schrieb Andy Mabbett: On 26 May 2014 13:38, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: The wording regarding the quorum to hold an exceptional general assembly has been changed from “members” to “active members”. How is active members defined? This is a membership status. Active members can vote and are elegible for any position that requires elections, such as being on the board. This is a status each member can choose freely when they become members (and they can change their status afterwards). If you choose to be a supporting member, you basically choose to support the chapter with your membership fees without wanting to get involved in the politics. The above mentioned change basically makes it way easier to request an extraordinary assembly. Best, Markus The fees are the same for either type of member, 24 euros per year? The changes are interesting. Double the term length of the supervisory board, permit them to be paid expenses, make it much easier to hold a meeting at which bylaws can be changed (by eliminating supporting members in calculating quorum), and allow supporting memberships to be easily terminated. This is in addition to the rule that allows membership applications to be denied without providing a reason. Were the changes enacted because supporting members largely don't attend meetings or participate in chapter activities? What types of expenses do you expect to reimburse, and are there caps already set up? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc That issue was discussed before too. From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US, where the UK one is basically voodoo, and the US one a legitimate specialty in medicine (but correct me if I'm wrong) -- Martijn ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc That issue was discussed before too. From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US, where the UK one is basically voodoo, and the US one a legitimate specialty in medicine (but correct me if I'm wrong) -- Martijn __ You are correct. In the UK osteopathy is a woo woo homeopathic discipline, in the U.S. (where the study was conducted) the training and degree granting processes for osteopathy are equivalent to medical doctors and the two are treated identically. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On 27 May 2014 15:22, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia. -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:27 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2014 15:22, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia. s/use wikipedia/rely on the completeness and accurancy of Wikipedia to practice their profession/ There is nothing *wrong* with using Wikipedia as a doctor, but there may be something wrong with the way they use it. -- Martijn -- geni ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Actually, Don't diagnose yourself is just generally good advice. Even if the medical information you have is accurate, there might be other possible causes or factors that need to be considered. Internet information, Wikipedia or otherwise, might be a good place to get things to ask your doctor about, but ask your doctor should always be the end of the process. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Osteopathy is one of those “difficult” ones, where it does have some real evidence to back it up - but in the UK certain practitioners make exceptional and (hokum) claims. The NHS recommends it for Lower Back Pain (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Osteopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx, and personally I’ve found it the only effective treatment for my back pain) and also say may be effective for other forms of muskculoskeletal problems. But you get plenty of osteopaths claiming that they can fix anything from IBS to heart problems (total BS). Talking about it to my osteopath, those latter claims became popular in the 90s during the “hokum-medicine” (his words :P) boom, but fortunately today it seems to be falling further out of favour, with a twist to more realistic attitudes. The US has a much more robust approach to such claims, and hopefully the UK will go that way too :D Anyway, just an interesting aside :) As a note, the WP article on osteopathy does a good job of overviewing the topic! Tom On 27 May 2014 at 15:23:59, Nathan (nawr...@gmail.com) wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc That issue was discussed before too. From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US, where the UK one is basically voodoo, and the US one a legitimate specialty in medicine (but correct me if I'm wrong) -- Martijn __ You are correct. In the UK osteopathy is a woo woo homeopathic discipline, in the U.S. (where the study was conducted) the training and degree granting processes for osteopathy are equivalent to medical doctors and the two are treated identically. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Hello, I am a participant in WikiProject Medicine on English Wikipedia and know about this case. I also have talked to the researcher who published this paper since its publication. Lots of people have lots of objections to Wikipedia. In my opinion, the study itself is correct for what it reports, but no newspaper or other media understands what the study is saying and they are reporting all kinds of silly things. Here is the discussion of this paper in WikiProject Medicine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_48#Poor_paper_.5B4.5D_on_Wikipedia That is in the archives, so if someone has more to say, post to the main forum. While I think this study is being perceived negatively, I appreciate any research team who does any kind of research on Wikipedia's health content. Here is a list of what has been done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Research_publications @geni - The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia. I disagree. I feel that the problem is that for all of history there has never been health information accessible to doctors and patients. Wikipedia at least says that people should have health information, whereas every government and health organization in the world (NIH, NHS, WHO and the rest) are still saying Not yet, it is not important, nobody wants this and not providing any alternative. There are no alternatives or competitors to Wikipedia for what it does, so of course doctors use it. The problem is that no one else thinks doctors need ready access to good information right now, and Wikipedia is just doing the best it can to meet the existing demand that is otherwise ignored. @Todd Allen - ask your doctor should always be the end of the process. The number of people how have as much access to their doctors as they wish is definitely not more than 20% of the English speaking world and the reality is probably closer to 2-3% of people. Doctors simply do not have more than minutes to answer questions and many people would like to study for hours over their lifetimes. Referring people to doctors ignores the problem that people do not get as much access to healthcare as they would like, and doctors are not ready to provide health information on demand. At the same time, patients are being encouraged to make more health decisions with their doctors, but not given educational resources to help them make those decisions. I wish there were enough doctors, and people should try hard to ask them lots of questions, but something more is needed too. yours, On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, Don't diagnose yourself is just generally good advice. Even if the medical information you have is accurate, there might be other possible causes or factors that need to be considered. Internet information, Wikipedia or otherwise, might be a good place to get things to ask your doctor about, but ask your doctor should always be the end of the process. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Wikipedia discourages self diagnosis and treatment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer And I think professionals are capable enough to verify the credibility of the referred sources instead of blindly reading the articles. Regards, Jee On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.comwrote: Hello, I am a participant in WikiProject Medicine on English Wikipedia and know about this case. I also have talked to the researcher who published this paper since its publication. Lots of people have lots of objections to Wikipedia. In my opinion, the study itself is correct for what it reports, but no newspaper or other media understands what the study is saying and they are reporting all kinds of silly things. Here is the discussion of this paper in WikiProject Medicine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_48#Poor_paper_.5B4.5D_on_Wikipedia That is in the archives, so if someone has more to say, post to the main forum. While I think this study is being perceived negatively, I appreciate any research team who does any kind of research on Wikipedia's health content. Here is a list of what has been done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Research_publications @geni - The problem is the number of doctors who use wikipedia. I disagree. I feel that the problem is that for all of history there has never been health information accessible to doctors and patients. Wikipedia at least says that people should have health information, whereas every government and health organization in the world (NIH, NHS, WHO and the rest) are still saying Not yet, it is not important, nobody wants this and not providing any alternative. There are no alternatives or competitors to Wikipedia for what it does, so of course doctors use it. The problem is that no one else thinks doctors need ready access to good information right now, and Wikipedia is just doing the best it can to meet the existing demand that is otherwise ignored. @Todd Allen - ask your doctor should always be the end of the process. The number of people how have as much access to their doctors as they wish is definitely not more than 20% of the English speaking world and the reality is probably closer to 2-3% of people. Doctors simply do not have more than minutes to answer questions and many people would like to study for hours over their lifetimes. Referring people to doctors ignores the problem that people do not get as much access to healthcare as they would like, and doctors are not ready to provide health information on demand. At the same time, patients are being encouraged to make more health decisions with their doctors, but not given educational resources to help them make those decisions. I wish there were enough doctors, and people should try hard to ask them lots of questions, but something more is needed too. yours, On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, Don't diagnose yourself is just generally good advice. Even if the medical information you have is accurate, there might be other possible causes or factors that need to be considered. Internet information, Wikipedia or otherwise, might be a good place to get things to ask your doctor about, but ask your doctor should always be the end of the process. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 10:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: From what I remember from it is that what is called Osteopathy in the UK isn't the same thing that's called Osteopathy in the US Ah, that explains it. :-) Regardless, Don't diagnose yourself with Wikipedia seems to be infinitely good advice, regardless of any hyperbole about article accuracy! -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
[Wikimedia-l] Birgit Müller - Wikimedia Deutschland’s new Community Liaison
Hi everyone, I am delighted to announce that as of last week, Birgit Müller is Wikimedia Deutschland’s Community Liaison for the German community. Birgit will assist the German Wikimedia communities on questions concerning introductions of software tools and administrative changes in the projects. Past conversations, discussions and conflicts have shown that our presence can be helpful for all involved parties and should be taken to a continuous level. As a new member of Wikimedia Deutschland’s Volunteer Support Department, reporting to me, Birgit will take care of these issues continuously from now on. We are glad to have her aboard. Please join me in welcoming her to the Wikimedia world! Best regards, Denis Barthel -- Head of Volunteer Support Dept. Team Communitys (Bereichsleitung) Fon +49 30 219 158 26 31 Mobil +49 172 23 13 811 E-Mail: denis.bart...@wikimedia.de -- Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
FYI - Here is the previous thread on this list about this study / topic: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/460005?do=post_view_threaded ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Markus Glaser markus.gla...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hi Nathan, I put my answers inline. Am 27.05.2014 16:18, schrieb Nathan: The fees are the same for either type of member, 24 euros per year? Yes. Double the term length of the supervisory board, A term length of one year is considered to be very short. At the board workshop in London, e.g., a term length of three years was recommended. It takes some time for a new board member to get familiar with their tasks. permit them to be paid expenses, To be clear about this: we do not have permission to be paid expenses. In order to do so, we would need another resolution by the general assembly, which we do not have and do not aim for. The change in the bylaws was proposed for taxation reasons. It is specially designed to prevent accidential risks to our tax exempt status. make it much easier to hold a meeting at which bylaws can be changed (by eliminating supporting members in calculating quorum), This is about extraordinary assemblies. We do have regular general assemblies where bylaws can be changed twice a year. As we have more than 1 members now (90% of them being supporting members), it is vitually impossible to reach the quorum for an extraordinary assembly. Please also note this change to the bylaws was proposed by a member, not by the board. Were the changes enacted because supporting members largely don't attend meetings or participate in chapter activities? That is the nature of supporting members. Otherwise they'd change their status to be active. In the recent years, we have had a huge increase in the number of supporting members, shifting the ratio between active and supporting members. As I said, roughly 90% do have supporting status. The changes adapt the bylaws to this fact and strengthen the position of the active members. What types of expenses do you expect to reimburse, and are there caps already set up? As I said before: There will be no changes in our expenses. You wrote, you think these changes to be interesting. Is that still the case now? If so, could you be more specific? Interesting, sure. But with your clarifications it all makes sense (with the exception that I don't really understand the reimbursement change, but accept that it will not result in any money changing hands). I did not realize WMDE had 1000 active members! I can imagine a quorum could be difficult to achieve under any circumstances. Thanks Markus. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Hi Nathan, I put my answers inline. Am 27.05.2014 16:18, schrieb Nathan: The fees are the same for either type of member, 24 euros per year? Yes. Double the term length of the supervisory board, A term length of one year is considered to be very short. At the board workshop in London, e.g., a term length of three years was recommended. It takes some time for a new board member to get familiar with their tasks. permit them to be paid expenses, To be clear about this: we do not have permission to be paid expenses. In order to do so, we would need another resolution by the general assembly, which we do not have and do not aim for. The change in the bylaws was proposed for taxation reasons. It is specially designed to prevent accidential risks to our tax exempt status. make it much easier to hold a meeting at which bylaws can be changed (by eliminating supporting members in calculating quorum), This is about extraordinary assemblies. We do have regular general assemblies where bylaws can be changed twice a year. As we have more than 1 members now (90% of them being supporting members), it is vitually impossible to reach the quorum for an extraordinary assembly. Please also note this change to the bylaws was proposed by a member, not by the board. Were the changes enacted because supporting members largely don't attend meetings or participate in chapter activities? That is the nature of supporting members. Otherwise they'd change their status to be active. In the recent years, we have had a huge increase in the number of supporting members, shifting the ratio between active and supporting members. As I said, roughly 90% do have supporting status. The changes adapt the bylaws to this fact and strengthen the position of the active members. What types of expenses do you expect to reimburse, and are there caps already set up? As I said before: There will be no changes in our expenses. You wrote, you think these changes to be interesting. Is that still the case now? If so, could you be more specific? Best, Markus -- Markus Glaser Präsidium Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Hi Hasive, I think we need to read again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer Jayanta On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: FYI - Here is the previous thread on this list about this study / topic: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/460005?do=post_view_threaded ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
That's a weird content architecture, right there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_physician https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_manipulative_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy No redirects listed. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Amy Vossbrinck avossbri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States Osteopaths also have chiropractic training. Take care, Amy On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Amy Vossbrinck* *Executive Assistant to the* *Chief of Finance and Administration, Garfield Byrd* *Wikimedia Foundation* *149 New Montgomery Street* *San Francisco, CA 94105* *415.839.6885 ext 6628* *avossbri...@wikimedia.org avossbri...@wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The first three weeks.
Hello Wikimedians, I wanted to give you an update on my first three weeks of Wikimedia immersion -- this will also go on the blog. As you probably noticed, my leadership approach is rooted in observation and focused discussions -- this means I watch and listen more than I talk. But I expect that you are probably curious about what I have observed and learned so far, and to know a little more about who I am. I believe the most precious commodity in life is time. I seek challenges worthy of it. I do not work for a job, I work for impact and I chose this role above all others because I believe this is a critical moment for the future of our movement. I also believe no one person can be good at everything, myself included, so I build great teams of people with complementary strengths. This means that I believe that best decisions come informed by a range of views, and that I respect a wide plurality of opinions. It also means that I choose to surround myself with people who are strong, which often requires negotiating conflicts. How have I spent my first three weeks at the WMF: - Reading and watching: wikis, lists, talk pages, annual plans, reports, videos, emails and videos - Dozens of 1:1s with staff, board, and community members - Attending the Zurich hackathon - Participating in the recent Board meeting - Progress with ongoing decisions, such as the Terms of Use discussion - Deep-dive into product roadmap and data analytics - Four days of deep-dive and knowledge transfer with Sue - IRC office hours, writing my first blog, and engaging on my talk page - Training to be an even more effective communicator for the media - Review of on-going product initiatives: mobile, Flow, and VE - Recruiting What I found to be challenging: - The extensive documentation, which provides plenty of context, but makes it hard to find distilled essences of historical decisions quickly. - The complexity of the community, roles, differences in points of view and perspectives. What is coming: - A deep-dive into a few selected projects that are already in the works, to understand where they are currently, what the expected outcomes are, and how we measure success; - A retreat with the c-level leadership to align our work, and identify and address immediate Foundation priorities; and - Starting the process for our next strategic planning exercise, which will be different from last time, and focused on improving our ability to react quickly and adjust as necessary to opportunities and challenges. These are the things I’ve been working on -- but I know that there’s a lot more that you as community members have to offer, and much more that I can learn. Here’s just a few of the things I’m looking forward to from you: - Engaging with the strategic planning process; - Continuing to provide feedback and on beta features, products, and ongoing projects and initiatives to help make them better, more useful, and lead to more successful outcomes; - Help drive decision-making and consensus across the community through your individual leadership; - Your recommendations on areas you see as priorities for development (while keeping in mind that not everything can be a priority at once!); and - Your recommendations on community and WMF decision-making processes, while keeping in mind that no process is ever perfect but there is always room for improvement. The past three weeks have made one thing very clear: it’s because of the energy and labor of each of you that we’re all here. On May 1st, I said that this was big in every way. The last three weeks have reinforced this for me: we have a huge mission, incredible opportunity, a vast number of users, and a strong unique community. I look forward to facing challenges together, having honest discussions, and coming together to seize opportunities in front of us. There will be much for us to learn from each other as we work together, and even more to do! Lila ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The first three weeks.
Lila Tretikov wrote: ... a few of the things I’m looking forward to from you: ... provide feedback and on ... projects and initiatives to help make them better, more useful, and lead to more successful outcomes Samuel Klein wrote: ... legal work is a significant part of our budget and work, and central to our mission, but here was lumped in with administration How about partitioning the legal budget and publishing expenditures of both time and money for each partition in case rich political opponents try to stir up legal trouble in an attempt to drain resources? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement
Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is joining us as Director of Community Engagement (Product), starting today. In this role, Rachel will manage the community liaison team (Keegan Peterzell, Sherry Snyder, Nick Wilson, and Erica Litrenta) and ensure that our technical projects receive community engagement support throughout their development. Rachel discovered her love for collaborative communities with Couchsurfing. When she joined the community in 2005, Couchsurfing was a small non-profit, with essential functions being filled by volunteers. This included responding to safety issues: staying at someone else’s home or hosting a stranger carries risks, some obvious, some less so. Rachel founded and led the community’s all-volunteer safety team. She was also a member of the non-profit’s Board of Directors from 2007-2011. After volunteering for two years, she joined the organization full-time as Head of Trust Safety in 2008. She was responsible for enacting policies related to incident reporting, profile removal, and other safety issues, and handled any high level legal issues and communications related to Couchsurfing member safety. She implemented training, documentation, and case review processes for her team. As part of her role, she also directly interfaced with Couchsurfing’s engineering team and helped scope functionality related to safety moderation. The work on the safety team also equipped her well for working across culture and languages, as issues would often arise around differing cultural sensitivities. She’s travelled to 38 countries and lived on 5 continents. Prior to Couchsurfing, Rachel pursued a passion for theater while temping in various roles for various companies. Her additional interests include digital rights, women’s rights and safety worldwide, and scuba diving. In her spare time, she seeks to perfect her pulled pork recipe, sews, and reads all the things. Rachel is new to the community, and due to the nature of her role, she’ll be spending some time just learning how to edit and how things work in our weird wonderful world. She’s planning a face-to-face meeting with her team the week of June 9th and will be attending WikiConference USA later this week. Please join me in welcoming Rachel to the Wikimedia Foundation and to the community. Warmly, Erik PS: Big thanks to everyone who’s been part of the search process, to the liaison team for doing awesome work in an emerging structure, and to Philippe, Maggie and Howie for all their work in bootstrapping the team, and for supporting Rachel as she steps into the role. :-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The first three weeks.
Lila Tretikov wrote: I wanted to give you an update on my first three weeks of Wikimedia immersion -- this will also go on the blog. As you probably noticed, my leadership approach is rooted in observation and focused discussions -- this means I watch and listen more than I talk. But I expect that you are probably curious about what I have observed and learned so far, and to know a little more about who I am. [...] Thank you for this write-up. It was nice to read. :-) Your recommendations on areas you see as priorities for development (while keeping in mind that not everything can be a priority at once!); [...] I think this continues to be a huge pain point. Developer resources are scarce and expensive and there's often a feeling that the latest Wikimedia Foundation initiatives trump all other worthwhile projects. I think we need to find a better way to more fairly allocate resources. As a concrete example, there continue to be dozens of Wikimedia Foundation developers and other staff specifically focused on the English Wikipedia and sometimes Wikimedia Commons, while the other sister projects such as Wiktionary, Wikibooks, and Wikisource continue to receive almost no direct attention. (Over the past few years, even the term sister projects has become mildly insulting. These projects are more accurately the red-headed stepchild projects.) This won't happen quickly, but we must make it a goal to do better in this area. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement
Welcome Rachel. Glad to have you here. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is joining us as Director of Community Engagement (Product), starting today. In this role, Rachel will manage the community liaison team (Keegan Peterzell, Sherry Snyder, Nick Wilson, and Erica Litrenta) and ensure that our technical projects receive community engagement support throughout their development. Rachel discovered her love for collaborative communities with Couchsurfing. When she joined the community in 2005, Couchsurfing was a small non-profit, with essential functions being filled by volunteers. This included responding to safety issues: staying at someone else’s home or hosting a stranger carries risks, some obvious, some less so. Rachel founded and led the community’s all-volunteer safety team. She was also a member of the non-profit’s Board of Directors from 2007-2011. After volunteering for two years, she joined the organization full-time as Head of Trust Safety in 2008. She was responsible for enacting policies related to incident reporting, profile removal, and other safety issues, and handled any high level legal issues and communications related to Couchsurfing member safety. She implemented training, documentation, and case review processes for her team. As part of her role, she also directly interfaced with Couchsurfing’s engineering team and helped scope functionality related to safety moderation. The work on the safety team also equipped her well for working across culture and languages, as issues would often arise around differing cultural sensitivities. She’s travelled to 38 countries and lived on 5 continents. Prior to Couchsurfing, Rachel pursued a passion for theater while temping in various roles for various companies. Her additional interests include digital rights, women’s rights and safety worldwide, and scuba diving. In her spare time, she seeks to perfect her pulled pork recipe, sews, and reads all the things. Rachel is new to the community, and due to the nature of her role, she’ll be spending some time just learning how to edit and how things work in our weird wonderful world. She’s planning a face-to-face meeting with her team the week of June 9th and will be attending WikiConference USA later this week. Please join me in welcoming Rachel to the Wikimedia Foundation and to the community. Warmly, Erik PS: Big thanks to everyone who’s been part of the search process, to the liaison team for doing awesome work in an emerging structure, and to Philippe, Maggie and Howie for all their work in bootstrapping the team, and for supporting Rachel as she steps into the role. :-) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is joining us as Director of Community Engagement (Product), starting today. In this role, Rachel will manage the community liaison team (Keegan Peterzell, Sherry Snyder, Nick Wilson, and Erica Litrenta) and ensure that our technical projects receive community engagement support throughout their development. Welcome to Wikimedia, Rachel! I'm looking forward to you getting to know everyone and building our department. I'd like to extend a special thanks to Erik, Howie, Maggie and Philippe for their dedication to getting this department set up, understanding and embracing the importance of community engagement in software development. We've work ahead of us :) -- Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Wikipedia medical entries
Thanks everyone. Last day when this news published i receive lots of phone call from our journalist friend. You know all journalist just check the news media. Not check details issue. So i start this thread. If this news published various language it may negative sign for Wikipedia. Because all are not read *Wikipedia: Medical_disclaimer* properly. Anyway thanks again. I'll inform our journalist friend about this. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: That's a weird content architecture, right there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_physician https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_manipulative_medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy No redirects listed. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Amy Vossbrinck avossbri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_medicine_in_the_United_States Osteopaths also have chiropractic training. Take care, Amy On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 05/27/2014 09:44 AM, Stevie Benton wrote: American Osteopathic Association I'm not an expert on the latest woo-woo, but isn't Osteopathy one of the numerous faith-based 'medecine'? -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Amy Vossbrinck* *Executive Assistant to the* *Chief of Finance and Administration, Garfield Byrd* *Wikimedia Foundation* *149 New Montgomery Street* *San Francisco, CA 94105* *415.839.6885 ext 6628* *avossbri...@wikimedia.org avossbri...@wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Welcome Rachel diCerbo, Director of Community Engagement
Welcome Congratulation Rachel! On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is joining us as Director of Community Engagement (Product), starting today. In this role, Rachel will manage the community liaison team (Keegan Peterzell, Sherry Snyder, Nick Wilson, and Erica Litrenta) and ensure that our technical projects receive community engagement support throughout their development. Welcome to Wikimedia, Rachel! I'm looking forward to you getting to know everyone and building our department. I'd like to extend a special thanks to Erik, Howie, Maggie and Philippe for their dedication to getting this department set up, understanding and embracing the importance of community engagement in software development. We've work ahead of us :) -- Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The first three weeks.
+1 Thank you for this write-up. Happy to read..:) On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:24 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Lila Tretikov wrote: I wanted to give you an update on my first three weeks of Wikimedia immersion -- this will also go on the blog. As you probably noticed, my leadership approach is rooted in observation and focused discussions -- this means I watch and listen more than I talk. But I expect that you are probably curious about what I have observed and learned so far, and to know a little more about who I am. [...] Thank you for this write-up. It was nice to read. :-) Your recommendations on areas you see as priorities for development (while keeping in mind that not everything can be a priority at once!); [...] I think this continues to be a huge pain point. Developer resources are scarce and expensive and there's often a feeling that the latest Wikimedia Foundation initiatives trump all other worthwhile projects. I think we need to find a better way to more fairly allocate resources. As a concrete example, there continue to be dozens of Wikimedia Foundation developers and other staff specifically focused on the English Wikipedia and sometimes Wikimedia Commons, while the other sister projects such as Wiktionary, Wikibooks, and Wikisource continue to receive almost no direct attention. (Over the past few years, even the term sister projects has become mildly insulting. These projects are more accurately the red-headed stepchild projects.) This won't happen quickly, but we must make it a goal to do better in this area. MZMcBride ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipediahttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
