Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-25 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from last Friday's quarterly review of the
Foundation's Parsoid team are now available at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Parsoid/June_2014
.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi folks,

 to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course
 corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me
 and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process,
 starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according
 to Sue's narrowing focus recommendations which were approved by the
 Board [1]:

 - Visual Editor
 - Mobile (mobile contributions + Wikipedia Zero)
 - Editor Engagement (also known as the E2 and E3 teams)
 - Funds Dissemination Committe and expanded grant-making capacity

 I'm proposing the following initial schedule:

 January:
 - Editor Engagement Experiments

 February:
 - Visual Editor
 - Mobile (Contribs + Zero)

 March:
 - Editor Engagement Features (Echo, Flow projects)
 - Funds Dissemination Committee

 We’ll try doing this on the same day or adjacent to the monthly
 metrics meetings [2], since the team(s) will give a presentation on
 their recent progress, which will help set some context that would
 otherwise need to be covered in the quarterly review itself. This will
 also create open opportunities for feedback and questions.

 My goal is to do this in a manner where even though the quarterly
 review meetings themselves are internal, the outcomes are captured as
 meeting minutes and shared publicly, which is why I'm starting this
 discussion on a public list as well. I've created a wiki page here
 which we can use to discuss the concept further:

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews

 The internal review will, at minimum, include:

 Sue Gardner
 myself
 Howie Fung
 Team members and relevant director(s)
 Designated minute-taker

 So for example, for Visual Editor, the review team would be the Visual
 Editor / Parsoid teams, Sue, me, Howie, Terry, and a minute-taker.

 I imagine the structure of the review roughly as follows, with a
 duration of about 2 1/2 hours divided into 25-30 minute blocks:

 - Brief team intro and recap of team's activities through the quarter,
 compared with goals
 - Drill into goals and targets: Did we achieve what we said we would?
 - Review of challenges, blockers and successes
 - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other
 action items
 - Buffer time, debriefing

 Once again, the primary purpose of these reviews is to create improved
 structures for internal accountability, escalation points in cases
 where serious changes are necessary, and transparency to the world.

 In addition to these priority initiatives, my recommendation would be
 to conduct quarterly reviews for any activity that requires more than
 a set amount of resources (people/dollars). These additional reviews
 may however be conducted in a more lightweight manner and internally
 to the departments. We’re slowly getting into that habit in
 engineering.

 As we pilot this process, the format of the high priority reviews can
 help inform and support reviews across the organization.

 Feedback and questions are appreciated.

 All best,
 Erik

 [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings
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[Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Hi everyone,

If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
available on Google
Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

Our new features include:

   - *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
   faster than ever before.
   - *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
   out, we thank you for all your contributions.
   - *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
   tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
   - *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
   browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
   - *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
   of all human knowledge.
   - *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
   reading Wikipedia written in any language.
   - *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
   world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many developing
   areas.

Coming soon:

   - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
   feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
   inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
   - *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
   new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
experience out there.

Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
Congratulations to the Mobile Apps Android team on their first release of
the new app!

iPhone users, rest assured we're hard at work polishing up the iOS version,
which brings the same updated feature set. Expect it in the next few
weeks...

-- brion


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
 Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
 available on Google
 Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

 Our new features include:

- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
faster than ever before.
- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
out, we thank you for all your contributions.
- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
of all human knowledge.
- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
reading Wikipedia written in any language.
- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
 developing
areas.

 Coming soon:

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

 This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
 new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
 experience out there.

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Thank you!

 Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Sage Ross
For those without Google Play access or who otherwise prefer
sideloading, here's the APK you can install directly:
https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/wikipedia/stable/wikipedia-2.0.apk

-Sage

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
 Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
 available on Google
 Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.

 Our new features include:

- *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit Wikipedia
faster than ever before.
- *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
out, we thank you for all your contributions.
- *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you can
tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
- *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
- *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the sum
of all human knowledge.
- *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
reading Wikipedia written in any language.
- *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many developing
areas.

 Coming soon:

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much easier.
- *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for both
new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the app.

 This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
 new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
 experience out there.

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Thank you!

 Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Miguel García
Great work!

However, I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature? :_(
El 25/06/2014 21:07, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com escribió:

 For those without Google Play access or who otherwise prefer
 sideloading, here's the APK you can install directly:

 https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/wikipedia/stable/wikipedia-2.0.apk

 -Sage

 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!
  Today we’ve released a revamped Wikipedia for Android app, now
  available on Google
  Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.
 
  Our new features include:
 
 - *Speed* – Our new, native app allows you to browse and edit
 Wikipedia
 faster than ever before.
 - *Editing* – You can edit Wikipedia on the app. Logged in or logged
 out, we thank you for all your contributions.
 - *Recent pages* – We provide you with your reading history, so you
 can
 tap as many links as you like without ever getting lost.
 - *Saved pages* – You can save select pages for offline reading and
 browse them even when you don’t have a data connection.
 - *Share* – Use your existing social networking apps to share in the
 sum
 of all human knowledge.
 - *Language support* – The app allows you to seamlessly switch to
 reading Wikipedia written in any language.
 - *Wikipedia Zero* – We’ve partnered with cellular carriers around the
 world to provide Wikipedia free of data charges to users in many
 developing
 areas.
 
  Coming soon:
 
 - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
 feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
 inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
 easier.
 - *Discussions* – Talk pages are an important part of Wikipedia for
 both
 new users and experienced editors alike. We’re bringing them to the
 app.
 
  This release is just the beginning! We’re still working hard on creating
  new features to make the app the best Wikipedia reading and editing
  experience out there.
 
  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
  mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.
 
  Thank you!
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es wrote:
 I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
 articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?

I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Samuel Klein
This is looking great.  Editing on the new app has been working very
well for me.

Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
to create accounts on en:wp ...

 Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?

Sam.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Alex Monk
On 25 June 2014 23:29, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?


All lists are @lists.wikimedia.org. This address points to an OTRS queue
(specifically, mobile::Android (Wikipedia)).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Responses in-line.

On 25 June 2014 15:29, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
 to create accounts on en:wp ...


Indeed. There's not really much we can do about that, unfortunately.
However, the IP ranges for mobile operators are typically softblocked, so
if you have an account you can log in and use that to edit.



 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?


mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org points to an OTRS queue which makes
it much easier for us to manage the feedback. We're trying to keep all the
feedback in one channel so that we don't lose anything.

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Dan Garry
Hi Andy,

The new app was built in native code from the ground up. So the nearby
feature wasn't removed as much as it was never implemented.

I apologise if I sound pedantic, but this distinction is important; for the
initial release of the new app, we focussed on the barebones features that
we needed to have included as much as we possibly could while still getting
this out of the door. The nearby feature didn't bubble up in importance as
much as the others.

Right now, the most requested item in our feedback channels by far is a
dark mode for night time reading. The number of requests for that are at
least an order of magnitude larger than requests for any other feature, so
we're focussing our efforts on that. But nearby is definitely on our
roadmap.

Thanks!

Dan




On 25 June 2014 15:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es
 wrote:
  I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
  articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?

 I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
 removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.

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 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How many volunteers (not editors) does the movement have????

2014-06-25 Thread ImperfectlyInformed
 Samuel Klein meta.sj@... writes:
 
 I think a better formulation of the question might be: do we have a
 list of non-editing activities, and do we have a count of the number
 of people who do them regularly?
 
 To which the answer is partially-yes, and mostly-no.
 
 Yes: There is a mindmap of activities and roles that was created and
 is fairly comprehensive.
 
 No: Some of those activities have related logs (lists of users by
 technical flag) or categories (list of users who have categorized
 their userpage), or pages (lists of OTRS or press contacts, lists of
 members or a project or organization). But I've never seen a division
 of these into active v. passive (committee work v. group membership),
 or a total count.
 
 SJ
 
 On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Johan Jönsson brevlistor at
gmail.com wrote:
  2014-06-22 13:59 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki at gmail.com:
 
  Wikimedia volunteers are self-organised, why would there be a list?
 
 
  Because we love making lists.
 
  That being said, Richard list wiki-specific positions like ArbCom, which
  I suppose would mean that volunteers for the Wikimedia Foundation should
  be understood in a broad sense, and if so, the answer is definitely no.
 
  Even when some lists exists, like the e.g. the press room list Benjamin
  linked, they're in no way complete. For example, the press contact for
  Wikimedia Sweden (which, of course, is technically not a volunteer position
  for Wikimedia Foundation, since the chapters are independent and sometimes
  do stuff that's not related to the Wikimedia movement) is listed, but
  Swedish-language Wikipedia has a volunteer press contact of its own, who
  isn't.
 
  //Johan Jönsson
  --
  http://wikipediabloggen.se


(emailing thru Gmane since I only track this thru RSS so my apologies if it
comes out funky; I dislike the enormous email volume these lists generate)

I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned that Part I, question 6 of the
Form 990 which asks for total volunteers. For year 2011, 85,000 was the
number year 2010 has 100,000. See
http://990finder.foundationcenter.org/990results.aspx?990_type=fn=wikimediast=zp=ei=fy=action=Find

In addition, it is typical for directors and officers liability policies to
ask for an estimate of the number of volunteers (no idea if WMF's insurer
does, but when I last shopped for nonprofit DO it was a pretty standard
question). While I doubt the IRS cares much about the accuracy of this
particular number, the DO insurer can use a bad estimate as an excuse to
void coverage due to material misrepresentation when a claim is filed.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
The distinction is false. I have not (and more to the point, the many users
who know nothing about our internal workings will not have) installed a
new app; I have upgraded an existing app.

There was no mention in the list of changes, and no warning elsewhere, that
this extremely useful functionality would disappear from my device when I
did so.
On Jun 26, 2014 12:11 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Andy,

 The new app was built in native code from the ground up. So the nearby
 feature wasn't removed as much as it was never implemented.

 I apologise if I sound pedantic, but this distinction is important; for the
 initial release of the new app, we focussed on the barebones features that
 we needed to have included as much as we possibly could while still getting
 this out of the door. The nearby feature didn't bubble up in importance as
 much as the others.

 Right now, the most requested item in our feedback channels by far is a
 dark mode for night time reading. The number of requests for that are at
 least an order of magnitude larger than requests for any other feature, so
 we're focussing our efforts on that. But nearby is definitely on our
 roadmap.

 Thanks!

 Dan




 On 25 June 2014 15:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

  On 25 June 2014 20:18, Miguel García miguelgar...@wikimedia.org.es
  wrote:
   I will miss the amazing feature that allowed finding close
   articles by location. Any plans for restore this feature?
 
  I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe this has been
  removed; nor that its removal came as a surprise.
 
  --
  Andy Mabbett
  @pigsonthewing
  http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
to enter an edit summary.

This is troubling in itself, but it is also at odds with the WMF's new
terms of use, which require disclosure of paid edits, and suggest that that
can be made in edit summaries (among other options, equally unavailable in
the app).
On Jun 25, 2014 11:29 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is looking great.  Editing on the new app has been working very
 well for me.

 Except that my mobile operator's IP is often blocked and not allowed
 to create accounts on en:wp ...

  Please help us improve this app by sending a note to our mailing list,
 mobile-android-wikipe...@wikimedia.org.

 Not mobile-l ?  Is the above a private list?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
 to enter an edit summary.

I think you did (miss something). It gives you canned summaries Fixed
typo, Fixed grammar, Added links, and an Other option. If you
select Other, you can provide your own summary.
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VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Sage Ross
On Jun 25, 2014 9:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no way
 to enter an edit summary.

You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined options
for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
summary.

-Sage
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder to
reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with a
mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

- *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
easier.

I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
Apologies; my can this be configurable question was in reply to the point
on browsing history.
On Jun 26, 2014 2:19 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:


 On Jun 25, 2014 7:28 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  If you love Wikipedia and have an Android phone, you’re in for a treat!

 Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder
 to reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with
 a mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

 Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?

 - *Night mode* – We’ve gotten lots of great beta user feedback; one
 feature people love is reading Wikipedia in darker environments. The
 inverted colour scheme offered by night mode will make that much
 easier.

 I don't doubt that astronomers and the like would prefer red-on-black.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 Sections are no longer collapsed on opening a page. This makes it harder to
 reach the latter sections of long articles, and presents the reader with a
 mobile-unfriendly wall of text.

 Can this be configurable (akin to some browser's privacy mode)?


With the new generation of the app we've gone with a table of contents menu
in place of the confusing auto-collapsing of sections (which required
individually opening every section in turn for a full read, and was still
hard to scroll back *up* somewhere).

There's a button on the toolbar to open the table of contents; from there
you can jump immediately to any section.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you describe how specific engineering projects are helping to address
 the gender gap? Do you typically review user-facing projects with the
 gender gap specifically in mind? I notice that while there is a FOSS
 outreach program for women, there is nothing specific in the Wikimania
 Hackathon materials to suggest that an effort was made to attract women to
 this event. There is another hackathon planned for early next year - will
 engineering make the gender gap part of the goals of that event?

Dear Nathan,

Thanks for asking this question, and thanks to Sumana for the pointers
to good places for deeper conversations.

At a high level, I think we need to be careful not to over-mandate
engineering. Building a great experience for editing and discussion
and testing it against a representative demographic cross-section is
in itself a very complex undertaking (especially when doing so in the
wonderful world of wikitext), without And it also needs to increase
the %/# of women participating in our projects as a specific measure
of success for each feature. I do want us to get better at more
quickly and frequently capturing the demographic baseline data so we
can at least understand the trends better. Quick, lightweight survey
tools are high on the wishlist for a lot of folks, and we'll think
about when/how to prioritize that in the overall roadmap.

Where I see some of the strongest potential to actually engage
under-represented groups is in the area of task recommendations.
Whenever we build systems that suggest things to do to new users,
we're making implicit value judgments about what kinds of work we
consider to be important. I think it's reasonable in this context to
consider factors such as the under-representation of a topic area in
the encyclopedia, which may draw in potential content contributors
familiar with that topic specifically, and in turn counter systemic
bias both in topic coverage and participation.

Erik

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2014 9:12 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  I've just made my first edit. Unless I missed something, there was no
way
  to enter an edit summary.

 You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined options
 for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
 summary.

Where?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revamped Wikipedia app for Android now live!

2014-06-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 On Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can enter an edit summary. Either choose one of the predefined
 options
  for how you improved the page, or pick other to enter a manual edit
  summary.

 Where?


Since phone screens are small, you may have noticed that the editing
process is broken up over a couple of separate steps. The preview stage
gives you a chance to select some 'canned' brief edit summaries, or select
'other' and input your own.

Here's a screen recording I just made of the process:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Adding_an_edit_summary_in_Wikipedia_Android_app_version_2.ogv

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[Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

2014-06-25 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks,

At the Zurich Hackathon, I met with a couple of folks from WM-CH who
were interested in talking about ways that chapters can get involved
in engineering/product development, similar to WM-DE's work on
Wikidata.

My recommendation to them was to consider working on GLAM-related
tooling. This includes helping improve some of the reporting tools
currently running in Labs (primarily developed by the illustrious and
wonderful Magnus Manske in his spare time), but also meeting other
requirements identified by the GLAM community [1] and potentially
helping with the development of more complex MediaWiki-integrated
tools like the GLAMWiki-Toolset.

There's work that only WMF is well positioned to do (like feeding all
media view data into Hadoop and providing generalized reports and
APIs), but a lot of work in the aforementioned categories could be
done by any chapter and could easily be scaled up from 1 to 2 to 3
FTEs and beyond as warranted. That's because a lot of the tools are
separate from MediaWiki, so code review and integration requirements
are lower, and it's easier for technically proficient folks to help.

In short, I think this could provide a nice on-ramp for a chapter or
chapters to support the work of volunteers in the cultural sector with
appropriate technology. This availability of appropriate technology is
clearly increasingly a distinguishing factor for Wikimedia relative to
more commercial offerings in its appeal to the cultural sector.

At the same time, WMF itself doesn't currently prioritize work with
the cultural sector very highly, which I think is appropriate given
all the other problems we have to solve. So if this kind of work has
to compete for attention with much more basic improvements to say the
uploading pipeline or the editing tools, it's going to lose. Therefore
I think having a cultural tooling team or teams in the larger
movement would be appropriate.

I've not heard back from WM-CH yet on this, but I also don't think
it's an exclusive suggestion, so wanted to put the idea in people's
heads in case other organizations in the movement want to help with
it. I do want WMF to solve the larger infrastructure problems, but the
more specialized tooling is likely _not_ going to be high on our
agenda anytime soon.

Thanks,
Erik

[1] 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Report_on_requirements_for_usage_and_reuse_statistics_for_GLAM_content.pdf

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VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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