Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors
Leigh was giving a presentation to professors and while the presentation was happening the professors' ESWP user pages were being deleted. Can you contact Leigh on her ES talk page and attempt to figure out what was happening with those user pages as well as the conduct of the people involved in the deletions? Thanks. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Harold Hidalgo hah...@gmail.com wrote: How can I help? 2014-07-04 0:20 GMT-04:30 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: es.wiki creating user pages Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15: What project(s) are you working on? Bibliotecarios = es.wiki crat-sysops. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Harold A. Hidalgo* Novo Adagio Magazine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors
Thank you... there is a message on Hahc21's talk page. Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 01:21:44 -0430 From: hah...@gmail.com To: wiki.p...@gmail.com CC: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors How can I help? 2014-07-04 0:20 GMT-04:30 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com wrote: es.wiki creating user pages Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 From: nemow...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15: What project(s) are you working on? Bibliotecarios = es.wiki crat-sysops. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Harold A. Hidalgo* Novo Adagio Magazine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross
On 04/07/14 00:26, rupert THURNER wrote: did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any topic interesting for a cooperation? Yes; one librarian from the ICRC photo department recently visited one of Wikimedia CH's Wikipermanences ( http://frwp.org/Wikipédia:WikiPermanence/Suisse ). They are currently at the (very) early stage of developing a policy for the global diffusion of their images, and are checking all possible options. They have a large stock of pictures that could potentially be distributed (meaning: not the ones documenting e.g. recent prisoners of wars, etc). Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use the pictures in a way we're not happy with, so they are not ready (yet) to go down the free license route... But we had a long discussion about possible scenarios, describing what other institutions have done, etc. It seems to be a bit early for a more formal contact, but we're keeping in touch with them. And the fact that they initiated contact is a good start. Frédéric ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross
This is the same problem I am facing. Even if there is an enthusiastic employer or responsible and so on in a GLAM or in an administrative department, there are internal oppositions or policies to face. In small partners the discussion may be good and can be immediate, in bigger ones it may take long time. The best is to find an internal investigator who can help to identify the right approach. In any kind of projects realized in bigger organizations or companies, the exact world is to find an internal sponsor. For instance an IT department can introduce a new software in a company realizing a good success only if the same department can find internal sponsors in the companies and the same department has a good reputation. This is a normal approach. These two keys are important for any change management applied in a good way. Naturally as much are bigger the oppositions to the changes, as much important should be the internal sponsors and the reputation. Reading the previous emails it seems that ICRC has a strong opposition to the changes. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote: On 04/07/14 00:26, rupert THURNER wrote: did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any topic interesting for a cooperation? Yes; one librarian from the ICRC photo department recently visited one of Wikimedia CH's Wikipermanences ( http://frwp.org/Wikipédia:WikiPermanence/Suisse ). They are currently at the (very) early stage of developing a policy for the global diffusion of their images, and are checking all possible options. They have a large stock of pictures that could potentially be distributed (meaning: not the ones documenting e.g. recent prisoners of wars, etc). Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use the pictures in a way we're not happy with, so they are not ready (yet) to go down the free license route... But we had a long discussion about possible scenarios, describing what other institutions have done, etc. It seems to be a bit early for a more formal contact, but we're keeping in touch with them. And the fact that they initiated contact is a good start. Frédéric ___ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario Facebook: Ilario Valdelli https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli Twitter: Ilario Valdelli https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469 Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross
On Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote: Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use the pictures in a way we're not happy with That question qualifies as frequently asked; my usual answer is to the effect that You cannot - but anyone who is going to use them maliciously is not going to worry about niceties like copyright. The people whose activities you limit by applying a restrictive license are the good guys - and yourselves. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [cultural-partners] Chapters and GLAM tooling
In my opinion your are putting on the table an important question, dear Barbara. The question is how approaching the GLAM tools. In every software there is a need, after there is a development, and after there is an acceptance because who asked to have a tool may say that the functionalities don't match the requirements. The tool can be fantastic, multitasking, multifunctional, portable, efficient, and so on BUT cannot do some basic functions required by a GLAM project. The main problem, for instance, is that it's hard to use, not friendly, it requires a long training... The problem is to have technicians designing softwares for technicians or implementing softwares for technicians. I think that it's fundamental that the requests and the acceptance MUST be done by GLAM operators and that the tools must implement ONLY what is required, nothing else. I remember that some months ago there was a discussion here about the tools required by GLAM projects... there were several emails and the request was for the GLAMwiki tooolkit. After some months it would be happy to know who is using it, which projects are having benefits from it and how quantify the relation costs/benefits. I think that the GLAM-coordinators must take their right position in this process and must organize a task force to collect requirements and to submit these requirements to the community of developers and to evaluate the final results asking for corrections or re-engineering. If the GLAM coordinators will not be bold, the risk is to have terabytes of unusable software or tools. This role is fundamental for a correct approach to this problem. regards On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi Liam and Eric, collaborating with GLAMs in Germany I can only stress how important technical support is to help GLAM to integrate their content to Wikimedia projects. Actually it is a trias of consultancy, technical support and seduce them with projects like coding da Vinci : the culture hackathon http://codingdavinci.de/. We are planning to enhance this support by more intense collaboration with EUROPEANA through the GLAM Wiki Tool kit - hopefully with Liam -, by launching a Lizenzhinweisgenerator https://github.com/wmde/Lizenzverweisgenerator helping users in an easy way to quote and reuse legally correct the data files on Commons, and thus ensuring GLAMs that their content will be widely spread but thread to them. And triggering the discussion on license issues on all legal levels. We would really appreciate it, if there would something like an international task force making sure as one point that the different tools are accessible in the different languages in different chapters and adapting them to national law where it is required. As far as I can see time is right to harvest - let`s provide the service and tools to make it as easy and convenient as possible. The meet up of GLAM-coordinators at the Wikimania would be a good starting point. Lilli Illiev http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilli_Iliev_(WMDE)and Katja Ullrich http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katja_Ullrich_(WMDE) will attend the Wikimania to meet as many of You as possible and share the knowledge. Best regards Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Jeweils persönlich von Montag bis Donnerstag für Sie erreichbar Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-(0)44 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario Facebook: Ilario Valdelli https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli Twitter: Ilario Valdelli https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469 Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation
As ever thanks Magnus. On 4 July 2014 05:48, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: David, thanks for posting that link here. Magnus, it looks like you've made (yet another) excellent tool, and described the problem it aims to alleviate in an eloquent and accessible way. Great to see a step forward in this area! Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Magnus! (add wikimedia-l to cc) - d. On 3 July 2014 21:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: An attempt to alleviate the tensions caused by file deletions on Commons: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=218 ___ Commons-l mailing list common...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR
That's really cool Gerard! thank you for sharing :) On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Congratulations.. Many awards are known at Wikidata and, the Roaring Lion Award is now one of them. Given that the Israeli chapter received this award, the item for the chapter has been updated with this fact. Also added were its creation date and the fact that it is a chapter. It turns out that many chapters are not known on Wikidata.. Have a look [1] if your chapter is known and maybe you want to create an item for your chapter.. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=15924535 On 3 July 2014 17:55, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Hey, I'm very excited to share that last night, we received the award at an event presence with of hundreds of guests (Picture of the award: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roaring_Lion_2014_award_to_Wikimedia_Israel.jpg ) The Roaring Lion competition is an award for excellence within Israel's communications and public relations industry awarded by the Israel Public Relations Associations. The campaign was chosen among many, judged by a committee of public relations executives, academics and public figures. Last July the Hebrew Wikipedia celebrated her 10th anniversary. The celebrations were followed by massive press coverage - TV radio, internet and print. You can give a look on some of them in our Press Book: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iobJg3Vpp0bDdKaDExNmU2VEU/edit?usp=sharing The strategy was to show the volunteers – the people behind the projects, so each cover presented another volunteer. To show the power of Wikipedia we collected a lot of numbers such the most viewed articles of the last 5 years, numbers of edits, words and many others – which leads to many items covering the history of HEWP. But besides arranging massive coverage for the celebrations we were looking for a special way to celebrate – to do something that has never been done before. The result was a unique collaboration with TV Channel 2, the most viewed channel in Israel! For an entire week, five of the most senior Channel 2 reporters, who learned to edit Wikipedia by our volunteers, wrote or extended an article on Hebrew Wikipedia. Then, each recorded a one minute video, explaining why they have decided to write on this specific topic. Every day, just before the evening news broadcast, the video was broadcasted and while the anchor presented the project, he explained we wanted to celebrate Wikipedia’s 10th anniversary and show that everyone can write an article on Wikipedia. Happy Birthday Wikipedia!” Due the success of the project Channel 2 decided to broadcast it all over again on the week after. According to the ratings records 2.033 million people (cumulatively) watched the project. On the celebrations month pages views on Hebrew Wikipedia showed increase of 12% (compare to 1% internationally) and increase of 12% in new articles (compare to 14% internationally decrease). You can watch them the videos (translated to English) on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuQcXKjU3rwJ-TOL8lyru7oHvoufnWtED I wish to thank all the volunteers who take part making this happen, to the Wikimedia Israel team, and to Gidoen Amichay who supported and helped lead the Channel 2 cooperation. *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson and Spokesperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment! ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross
Hello, I work at an international organization (Consumer Reports, part of Consumers International) which has an organizational relationship with Red Cross especially in the United States. If someone has a proposal for partnership then I could present it to the American chapter of the Red Cross, or help anyone anticipate what their organizational needs are. yours, On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM, Frédéric Schütz sch...@mathgen.ch wrote: Their main worry seems to be how do we make sure that people do not use the pictures in a way we're not happy with That question qualifies as frequently asked; my usual answer is to the effect that You cannot - but anyone who is going to use them maliciously is not going to worry about niceties like copyright. The people whose activities you limit by applying a restrictive license are the good guys - and yourselves. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation
It's nice technically, but the fact that it's necessary is tragic. The Evacuation title is very apt. North Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil and other countries are talking about creating their own internets. It's a shame that the Wikimedia community does essentially the same thing - dividing humanity instead of uniting it, even though it happens from seemingly a very different angle. Yes, I happen to live in a country that is affected by the mess in Commons more than others, but you'll have to trust me that my concern is global, even if probably very naive. I am sincerely sorry about sounding so dramatic. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-07-04 1:35 GMT+03:00 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Thank you, Magnus! (add wikimedia-l to cc) - d. On 3 July 2014 21:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: An attempt to alleviate the tensions caused by file deletions on Commons: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=218 ___ Commons-l mailing list common...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation
Quick status update: So far, not a single file has been evacuated to English Wikipedia [1]. Either Commons admins don't know about it, or don't care. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:From_Commons On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: It's nice technically, but the fact that it's necessary is tragic. The Evacuation title is very apt. North Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil and other countries are talking about creating their own internets. It's a shame that the Wikimedia community does essentially the same thing - dividing humanity instead of uniting it, even though it happens from seemingly a very different angle. Yes, I happen to live in a country that is affected by the mess in Commons more than others, but you'll have to trust me that my concern is global, even if probably very naive. I am sincerely sorry about sounding so dramatic. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-07-04 1:35 GMT+03:00 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Thank you, Magnus! (add wikimedia-l to cc) - d. On 3 July 2014 21:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: An attempt to alleviate the tensions caused by file deletions on Commons: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=218 ___ Commons-l mailing list common...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- undefined ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] red cross
On 03/07/2014, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: hi, did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any topic interesting for a cooperation? rupert As a case study, you may want to look at this Wikimedia Commons thread where I emailed the ICRC photolibrary: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2014/02#The_images_taken_by_employees_of_the_ICRC_of_captives_held_at_Guantanamo They were quite responsive on clarifying the copyright of the highly useful photographs of Guantanamo prisoners. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Internet's Own Boy: Aaron Swartz
It seems that MayDay.us needs money: https://mayday.us/ (I know it's political, but whoever has seen the documentary or read Aaron's blog can understand the rationale.) ((I would ***love*** seeing the WMF step up in things like this, but I understand it's complicated...)) Aubrey On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Hi Jake [and all], On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:04:57 -0700 Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: The Aaron Swartz Documentary was released this weekend. I don't know what quite to say except that you should watch it, and it's free (cause it's CC-licensed). Watch on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNNHsycaCY Watch on internet archive: https://archive.org/details/TheInternetsOwnBoyTheStoryOfAaronSwartz Purchase from Takepart.com: http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy Thanks for the recommendation - I'll consider watching it. I don't know what the family or filmmaker would want in contributions, but I know two organizations that would benefit from donations, now as much as ever: DemandProgress: http://www.demandprogress.org/ Electronic Frontier Foundation: http://www.eff.org Does the EFF really need more money? I remember paying relatively generously for all the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Bundle s which raised 10s of millions of money for the EFF. I think many other charities (including the Wikimedia foundation) don't have a shortage of money either, but they do have shortage of people's (paid or volunteer) *time*. Like I note here - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-all-cards-on-the-table-2013/#laziness_vs_productivity - most people think of laziness vs. productivity backward, because a really productive person has a lot of free time, while a person without free time is underproductive and lazy. This page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Michelle_Gellaroldid=615139001#Interests_and_activities notes that: [QUOTE] Gellar is an active advocate for various charities, including breast cancer research, Project Angel Food, Habitat for Humanity, and CARE. Of her charitable pursuits, she says, I started because my mother taught me a long time ago that even when you have nothing, there's ways to give back. And what you get in return for that is tenfold. But it was always hard because I couldn't do a lot. I couldn't do much more than just donate money when I was on the show because there wasn't time. And now that I have the time, it's amazing. [/QUOTE] At the moment, I have a lot of time, but am not self-sustaining and will accept offers or one-time donations for support: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/donate/ , and am also contemplating such future ventures such as Stand-up philosophy: https://plus.google.com/+ShlomiFish/posts/GUpTuA6641x . Government law makers and bureaucrats who prevent really productive individuals, organisations and even - corporations from getting shit done are the ultimate in laziness, time wasting, and value destruction, and our civilisation can prosper incredibly if we simplify the laws, depend more on computers to do the dirty work for us, and rethink the various moral or ethical fashions that we have. Stay cool and smashing and become even more so. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish (Rindolf). P.S: if you have a problem with my post, please write it to the list or as a last resort to me in private. See the story of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamsa_and_Bar_Kamsa for why an appeal to authority is antisocial and destructive. If you have a problem with me, tell me about it and I'll try to improve. -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ First stop for Perl beginners - http://perl-begin.org/ Deletionists delete Wikipedia articles that they consider lame. Chuck Norris deletes Deletionists whom he considers lame. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please
On 07/03/2014 02:21 PM, John wrote: I'm in the process of working with Dispenser to get said proposal written and the ball rolling. However this process will take some time Said proposal from Dispenser/Betacommand has been posted at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Caching_References for comments and discussion. -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please
On 4 July 2014 01:00, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's a donation if you're getting something (a survey) in return. How could the Foundation possibly not benefit from understanding contributors' opinions about general strategic goals for improving participation? I also want development of accuracy review. If there are any reasons that the Foundation would not benefit from that, the survey, or a reflinks cache which includes enough room to fit a category adjacency map in, then please bring them to my attention. The survey *again*? Oh, dear. It was a bad idea before, and it's still a bad idea when we're bribed into agreeing to it with hardware donations. James, this is getting a bit sad to see. You've raised this idea of a political issues survey a dozen or more times on the mailing list over a couple of years, and the responses tend to be along the lines of no, that's inappropriate or no, that's irrelevant, both from the community and from Foundation staffers; at least one person honestly seemed to think it was satirical! I don't think these responses were particularly ambiguous, so it's a bit odd that you seem to think that people haven't clearly explained why it's a bad idea. See, eg, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-March/070583.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-April/070937.html Almost every issue on that political survey is irrelevant to most of our work - I suppose you could make a case for metropolitan broadband, which might be relevant - and irrelevant to the specific question of volunteer participation. To take a straw poll on whether a few people in the community prefer steeply progressive taxation to school class size reduction, and then use that as justification to divert resources into one or the other those topics, is frankly insulting to our donors and volunteers, who have signed up to support something entirely different and nothing to do with either of them. It also arrogantly presumes a lot about other people's political and economic beliefs which I find somewhat disquieting - why are you so confident that Wikipedians are *for* all of these things? Wikimedia has a goal we have chosen to adopt and a general method we have developed to try and achieve it. That method does not involve engineering massive external changes in order to produce long-term second or third-order effects that *might*, in some undefined fashion, lead to incidental benefits towards the goal in a decade or three. Those changes may be *good* in and of themselves - in most cases, I'd agree they would be, and I think our community would broadly tend to agree as well - but bringing them about is simply not what Wikimedia was set up to do and it's not what people have given money and time to support. Why not throw WMF's efforts at cancer treatment or clean-air programs? Or climate-change campaigns? All great things and need all the support they can get, and they'd probably have as much effect on user activity as data-centre energy efficiency... which is to say, very little direct impact. Put it from the other perspective: we should try and work on (or at least identify!) things which might directly affect the problem of participation, rather than trying to solve all the world's political and economic issues and hoping our original problem will be a bit easier afterwards. And, finally - the more you argue for this tangential idea, the more people are going to ignore any other (reasonable) suggestion you make. I hope this (sadly lengthy) email constitutes bringing some minor objections to your attention. Andrew. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of volunteers. (Was: How many volunteers (not editors) ...?)
On 2 July 2014 01:08, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: As for the Volunteer Coordinator, he was Cary Bass and left the Foundation some time ago. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique or https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cary_Bass . It's worth remembering that Cary's duties was essentially everything else; when he was hired there were ten other staff, and by the time he left there were still only a few dozen. http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Staff_and_contractorsoldid=19911 This may explain why volunteer coordinator seems to cover such a lot :-) -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
