Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have done a project and there were two parts to my project. There was the delivery of an input method and a font for a script that did not have any UNICODE font. At that time there was functionality for fonts. So it should have been a shoe in. The cost of the project was relatively large.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Russavia
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: The activity you describe is obviously unacceptable. However, the amount of time and effort that out associated with tracking down and returning a particular $20 contribution would not be worth it. Newyorkbrad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Lisa Gruwell
We do not see any donations from anyone by that name. Best, Lisa Gruwell On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: The activity you describe is obviously unacceptable. However, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
Another point to consider is that comparing grants that include staff compensation to grants that do not is necessarily tipping the scales. Volunteer time is a cost too (though borne by the volunteers themselves and not by the funder), and ignoring it in cost-benefit analysis will always give the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Asaf Bartov
If people are interested in the background to Gerard's rant, the grant he is talking about is [1], and the incomplete report he has been hassled about is [2]. I don't want to hijack this thread to discuss this specific example, but I welcome discussion on that grant report's talk page, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread
On 1 August 2014 17:01, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: If people are interested in the background to Gerard's rant, the grant he is talking about is [1], and the incomplete report he has been hassled about is [2]. I don't want to hijack this thread to discuss this specific example,

[Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Library: June/July Books and Bytes Newsletter and Final Report

2014-08-01 Thread Jake Orlowitz
Hello all, The June/July double-issue of our Books Bytes Newsletter is out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Newsletter/June2014 You can also catch up on the high level happenings from the past year of grant-work in our schnazzy final report:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
Good point, Asaf. Jessie, is there a way to take this into account when compating costs and benefits? I agree with Gerard that there can be survey or reporting fatigue, though I have yet to hear an IEG grantee complain. The APG application and reporting system seems more extensive and I can see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Library: June/July Books and Bytes Newsletter and Final Report

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
Thanks Jake. TWL was used as a positive example by Jessie Wild in her grant programs evaluation. Pine On Aug 1, 2014 10:54 AM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, The June/July double-issue of our Books Bytes Newsletter is out:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Richard Symonds
He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down. On 1 Aug 2014 17:42, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: ;O we get vandalized and he doesn't stick to his word of donating? Some people are just mean. On 01/08/2014, at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Library: June/July Books and Bytes Newsletter and Final Report

2014-08-01 Thread 梁忠明
Thanks Jake for mentioning our Chinese counterpart of the TWL in the newsletter. But it seems that there're only a few done since then... Workflow unimproved, no work assignments, etc. On 2014年8月2日 上午2:18, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jake. TWL was used as a positive example by

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 34 TB Wikimedia Commons files on archive.org: you can help

2014-08-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
WikiTeam[1] has released an update of the chronological archive of all Wikimedia Commons files, up to 2013. Now at ~34 TB total. https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons I wrote to – I think – all the mirrors in the world, but apparently nobody is interested in such a mass of media

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Rjd0060
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down. Or...the US NSA hacked into the Foundation's donor database and removed it to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Strainu
2014-07-31 23:39 GMT+03:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting Hi, Are the slides available anywhere? I'm especially interested in the heat map. Is there an interactive version online (or at least the data behind it)? Thanks, Strainu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Dan Garry
Slides from all the presentations are available here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2014-08 Dan On 1 August 2014 12:11, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-31 23:39 GMT+03:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting Hi,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
The time a staff or contractor will need to discover his donation or if he has donated is more expensive than 20 USD. Ask him better donations, revert the vandalism and don't give the money back, using it for some useful thing, like improving anti-vandalism tools. 2014-08-01 16:10 GMT-03:00

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Richard Symonds
+1, sorry, that was my point :-) On 1 Aug 2014 20:10, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-08-01 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Heartiest congratulaions to the Egypt User Group!! Wishing the Egyptians all the best for the upcoming days. Would like to see you as a chapter in the near future! Regards, Tanweer Morshed Board member, Wikimedia Bangladesh -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Russavia
Hi Richard, et al On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down. True, people can and do donate via such methods. I did so myself when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia User Group China

2014-08-01 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Congratulations to China User Group!! Wishing them all the best for the days to come :) Regards, Tanweer Morshed Board member, Wikimedia Bangladesh -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
2014-08-01 16:30 GMT-03:00 Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com: Rjd0060, I'm not sure here, but are you saying that the guy didn't actually donate the $20? If so, he publicly said he did, so it's best not to say such things which could be misconstrued as you saying the guy lied. Perhaps

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread David Gerard
Alternately, we could stop feeding an obvious troll. On 1 August 2014 20:30, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, et al On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Rjd0060
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez guys - stop beating the horse. It's never was alive to begin with. Rjd0060, I'm not sure here, but are you saying that the guy didn't actually donate the $20? If so, he publicly said he did, so it's best not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-08-01 Thread Pine W
Thanks to the Egyptian Wikipedians for their swift responses to Signpost inquiries, this week's Signpost Education Report will include a focused discussion about Egypt, in addition to the planned report about the Education Program in the broader Arab world. For those who haven't been following

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL. I can't agree. It's clear that lives are at stake, not to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Thyge
To me, the only thing at stake is the seriousness of this list - and that is not a new issue, unfortunately. Regards, Thyge /Sir48 2014-08-01 21:59 GMT+02:00 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm saying this doesn't

[Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-01 Thread Russavia
Hi all, On 27 April 2013, one of our then-Commons checkusers ran a check on my account on that project. I only found out this information in May of this year, after twelve months of asking the simple question -- was a checkuser run on my account? For twelve months this question went unanswered by

[Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

2014-08-01 Thread Nicole Ebber
Dear Wikimedia friends, I am happy to announce that we have finally released the documentation of the Chapters Dialogue project. You might probably remember: The Chapters Dialogue was the project that was initiated by Wikimedia Deutschland in spring 2013, my former colleague Kira Krämer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia User Group China

2014-08-01 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations! Sydney On Jul 30, 2014 12:18 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, It is an honor to announce that the Affiliations Committee has resolved [1] recognizing the Wikimedia User Group China as a Wikimedia User Group; their main focus areas are getting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Rjd0060
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

2014-08-01 Thread Salvador A
Thank you Nicole. Great work! The document will be my on-flight reading in my way to London. 2014-08-01 15:28 GMT-05:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de: Dear Wikimedia friends, I am happy to announce that we have finally released the documentation of the Chapters Dialogue project.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-01 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Commission, nor the WMF Board. Given this, I am asking very publicly the following questions: * (1) on what grounds a CheckUser action was performed on my account on Wikimedia Commons? * (2) who requested that it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

2014-08-01 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Insights of the Chapters Dialogue are online!

2014-08-01 Thread Katy Love
Thanks for sharing, Nicole! I really appreciate the work you and Kira did here. Looking forward to reviewing this body of work, and hope to further the dialogue at Wikimania! Katy On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Slides from all the presentations are available here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2014-08 The grantmaking slides seem to be limited to WMF employees though.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Review of grantmaking costs and outcomes for APG, PEG, and IEG

2014-08-01 Thread Dan Garry
Jessie, Can you make sure that your slides from yesterday are shared publicly so people can take a look at them? Right now they seem to be shared only to WMF employees. Thanks! Dan On 1 August 2014 14:45, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Dan Garry

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the new Wikimedia blog: a place for movement news

2014-08-01 Thread Russavia
Hi Tilman et al On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, Please find below the text of an announcement that was just posted at https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/07/31/introducing-the-new-blog/ ;) I notice at the bottom that the privacy policy link goes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Egypt Wikimedians User Group

2014-08-01 Thread Keilana
!!مبروك يا مصريون On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to the Egyptian Wikipedians for their swift responses to Signpost inquiries, this week's Signpost Education Report will include a focused discussion about Egypt, in addition to the planned report about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Unacceptable -- CheckUser abuse gone uninvestigated

2014-08-01 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to specify which policy or statement entitles you to the information you request? I can find no basis for it in the privacy policy, the Meta checkuser policy or the checkuser page on Commons. Can you also outline for

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 29 -- 30 July 2014

2014-08-01 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: How many more hoaxes will Wikipedia find? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-07-30/News_and_notes Book review: Knowledge or unreality? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-07-30/Book_review Wikimedia in education: Success in