Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.08.2014 02:48, svetlana wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 10:46, svetlana wrote: this community thinks that its power structures allow to tromp onto other people sysops aren't even held accountable they are elected once for an infinite term nobody reviews their contribution in position

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.08.2014 05:57, Pine W wrote: Two points I have heard off list are that 1. While it may be that disabling MV by default for logged-in users can be done, disabling it for those not logged-in is effectively another major UI change which a study shows likely will make some of them leave and

[Wikimedia-l] Låna konfrum fre 11

2014-08-13 Thread Anders Wennersten
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Låna konfrum fre 11

2014-08-13 Thread Jan Ainali
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] is it possible to accept bitcoins without receiving stolen property?

2014-08-13 Thread James Salsman
Andre Engels wrote: ... When choosing between unwittingly accepting tainted money and forcing people to give up their complete financial privacy, I find the first option the least morally repugnant one. forcing people to give up their complete financial privacy happens when people donate with

[Wikimedia-l] @WikipediaZero Twitter account

2014-08-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
Who owns the @WikipediaZero Twitter account? It's only ever had one post, and that seems a missed opportunity. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread svetlana
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 10:53, Pete Forsyth wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, at 23:42, Romaine Wiki wrote: That the community reacts the way it does now, is because they care very much about the site and they notice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread svetlana
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 12:01, Romaine Wiki wrote: 2014-08-13 2:46 GMT+02:00 svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au: [..] [...] instead of talking properly then the superprotect wouldn't exist at all you seeing the problem there? whose problem is it? desire to act out of the blue

[Wikimedia-l] Writing an RFC is a complicated process. Thoughts? (was: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-13 Thread svetlana
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 20:36, svetlana wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 12:01, Romaine Wiki wrote: 2014-08-13 2:46 GMT+02:00 svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au: [..] [...] instead of talking properly then the superprotect wouldn't exist at all you seeing the problem there?

[Wikimedia-l] Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer

2014-08-13 Thread Thehelpfulone
Forwarding on request. -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone Begin forwarded message: From: Ad Huikeshoven a...@wikimedia.nl Date: 13 August 2014 12:40:14 BST To: wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Clarification by Lila Tretikov about MediaViewer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Like many other old hands, it seems to get in the way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] @WikipediaZero Twitter account

2014-08-13 Thread Dan Garry
I could be mistaken, but I think Tomasz is the owner. CCing him. Dan On 13 August 2014 11:19, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Who owns the @WikipediaZero Twitter account? It's only ever had one post, and that seems a missed opportunity. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:27 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 10:53, Pete Forsyth wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, at 23:42, Romaine Wiki wrote: That the community reacts the way

[Wikimedia-l] Call for Volunteers: Wikimania Jury to review bids for 2016

2014-08-13 Thread Manuel Schneider
Dear all, soon we will starting the bidding process for Wikimania 2016. Soon the Wikimania Committee will be kicking off the selection process for deciding who should host Wikimania 2016. * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016 Request for Proposals (RfP) is being published soon and we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 08/13/2014 01:31 PM, Trillium Corsage wrote: [...] that he has affronted the community. I've spent no small amount of years involved in the various layers of administrative/governance/meta aspects of the English Wikipedia and from this I learned one lesson: Whenever someone says 'the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: There is no such thing as the community; we have a huge collection of communities joined loosely over a number of ambigously shared principles that often - but not always - move in more or less the same direction.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Trillium Corsage
13.08.2014, 01:46, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au: if the community was not so willing to use force (ie a js hack) against the other party instead of talking properly then the superprotect wouldn't exist at all you seeing the problem there? whose problem is it? desire to act out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Peel
On 13 Aug 2014, at 21:12, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: There is no such thing as the community; we have a huge collection of communities joined loosely over a number of ambigously shared principles

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: In favor of the Media Viewer software is a bunch of inquiry and analysis Restoring the default state of the software to the state that worked for the last decade is a clear precondition for healthier discussion of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread rupert THURNER
Am 13.08.2014 21:53 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Am 13.08.2014 15:56 schrieb Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com : On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, rupert THURNER

[Wikimedia-l] A bunch of nobodies

2014-08-13 Thread David Gerard
Add evidence of your insignificance here! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/A_bunch_of_nobodies - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A bunch of nobodies

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Peel
Why? On 13 Aug 2014, at 22:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Add evidence of your insignificance here! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/A_bunch_of_nobodies - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: But the idea that WMF always must slavishly execute the result of a poll or vote is neither rational nor sustainable, While there may be some who suggest that WMF should do so, I am not one of them -- and nor are many of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread svetlana
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, at 00:50, Pete Forsyth wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:27 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: [...] Surely this issue can be solved by talking without force: if you don't think so, you get force applied to YOU; you started a fight, and lost it. I have

[Wikimedia-l] how global.js works? (was: Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you)

2014-08-13 Thread svetlana
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, at 07:32, Erik Moeller wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: In favor of the Media Viewer software is a bunch of inquiry and analysis Restoring the default state of the software to the state that worked for the last decade is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-13 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: This is why on all major sites, you see a gradual ramp-up of a new feature, and continued improvement once it's widely used. Often there's an opt-in and then an opt-out to ease users into the change. But once a change is launched, it very rarely gets rolled back unless it's