Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread Peter Southwood
Not really
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But remember: all Wikipedia articles are peer reviewed..

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 Congratulations!

 A great model that could be emulated by many of us across other 
 disciplines too.

 Cheers,
 Vishnu


 On Friday 03 October 2014 04:54 AM, James Heilman wrote:

 Article published by the journal Open Medicine
 http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564

 Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here
 http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565

 Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia 
 and the number of contributors. I guess we will see.



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread Nurunnaby Hasive
Great work James! Congratulation.

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 But remember: all Wikipedia articles are peer reviewed..

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  Congratulations!
 
  A great model that could be emulated by many of us across other
  disciplines too.
 
  Cheers,
  Vishnu
 
 
  On Friday 03 October 2014 04:54 AM, James Heilman wrote:
 
  Article published by the journal Open Medicine
  http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564
 
  Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here
  http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565
 
  Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia
  and the number of contributors. I guess we will see.
 
 
 
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[Wikimedia-l] Fundraising reports after 2011

2014-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Since 2012 it's almost impossible to get information about the WMF 
fundraising... Does someone have insight in how WMF could be made again 
interested in fundraising transparency? Poking doesn't help.


For instance: me, Perohanych and Mike Peel have been waiting 16 months 
for two simple and crucial pieces of information: how many times the 
fundraising banners have been displayed; what are the totals raised per 
country.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2012/Report

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread Erlend Bjørtvedt
Yeah, this is really  a great thing!
Just remember not to communicate, in a way, that at last, we have a peer
reviewed Wikipedia article!..
.
I have myself had twho scientific articles peer reviewed for Scientific
periodicals, and know very well that this is quite a process.

But then we also have the kind of articles that have not been formally peer
reviewed in that sense, but are still Wikipedia-peer reviewed and of
extraordinary standard.

In 2010, PhD / psychiatrist Øystein Eiring wrote a large number of medical
articles to Norwegian Wikipedia.

One example is the entry on Schizofrenia

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizofreni

It was started by many writers, including doctors Reodor and Sigve,
both physicians. With Dr Eiring the article (and many others) got a serious
Scientific boost and has 217 References. It has had 156 different
contributors, and the Three mentioned doctors have both changed each
others' contributors and had their own wordings changed. As much as 3,5 KB
of doctor Sigve's text, has been removed or changed.

This is the wonderful beauty of Wikipedia peer review!


Best regards
Erlend Bjørtvedt


2014-10-04 8:52 GMT+02:00 Nurunnaby Hasive n...@nhasive.com:

 Great work James! Congratulation.

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  Not really
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  Reviewed and Published
 
  But remember: all Wikipedia articles are peer reviewed..
 
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   Congratulations!
  
   A great model that could be emulated by many of us across other
   disciplines too.
  
   Cheers,
   Vishnu
  
  
   On Friday 03 October 2014 04:54 AM, James Heilman wrote:
  
   Article published by the journal Open Medicine
   http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564
  
   Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here
   http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565
  
   Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia
   and the number of contributors. I guess we will see.
  
  
  
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[Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi,

I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some
unusual things:
* I have many more contributions there than I thought I do.
* I did some very strange edits, such as adding a category with an
*English* name[2]

Why would I do such a thing?, I thought.

Then I realized that some articles in the German Wikipedia are imported
with all their old versions when they are being translated. So these edits
were actually in the English Wikipedia.

Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia? What is the reason for it?
Is there a policy page about it?
Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?

Thanks!

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Amire80
[2]
https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jasmine_%28JavaScript%29diff=prevoldid=126861042

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Romaine Wiki
 Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia? What is the reason for it?
 Is there a policy page about it?
 Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?

This is because the import function works this way. I think it would be
better if imported revisions are marked as with origin from another
Wikipedia.
That it works this way is on all wikis which import pages.

Romaine



2014-10-04 15:09 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:

 Hi,

 I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some
 unusual things:
 * I have many more contributions there than I thought I do.
 * I did some very strange edits, such as adding a category with an
 *English* name[2]

 Why would I do such a thing?, I thought.

 Then I realized that some articles in the German Wikipedia are imported
 with all their old versions when they are being translated. So these edits
 were actually in the English Wikipedia.

 Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia? What is the reason for it?
 Is there a policy page about it?
 Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?

 Thanks!

 [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Amire80
 [2]

 https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jasmine_%28JavaScript%29diff=prevoldid=126861042

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I understand that importing shows edits with the same username as if they
were done in the target wiki.

My question is different:
1. Is it the usual practice for the German Wikipedia to do an import when
translation is done? If yes, why?
2. Are there other wikis that do an import when translation is done?


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2014-10-04 16:38 GMT+03:00 Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com:

  Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia? What is the reason for
 it?
  Is there a policy page about it?
  Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?

 This is because the import function works this way. I think it would be
 better if imported revisions are marked as with origin from another
 Wikipedia.
 That it works this way is on all wikis which import pages.

 Romaine



 2014-10-04 15:09 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:

  Hi,
 
  I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some
  unusual things:
  * I have many more contributions there than I thought I do.
  * I did some very strange edits, such as adding a category with an
  *English* name[2]
 
  Why would I do such a thing?, I thought.
 
  Then I realized that some articles in the German Wikipedia are imported
  with all their old versions when they are being translated. So these
 edits
  were actually in the English Wikipedia.
 
  Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia? What is the reason for
 it?
  Is there a policy page about it?
  Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Amire80
  [2]
 
 
 https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jasmine_%28JavaScript%29diff=prevoldid=126861042
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread James Heilman
I agree all Wikipedia articles are sort of peer reviewed. When I speak
about GA/FA I refer to it as Wikipedia's semi-formal peer review process.

With respect to authorship, the 5th to 10th contributors by number of
editors were contacted and asked if they wished to be listed as an author.
All of them declined feeling that they had not contributed sufficiently to
justify being listed.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising reports after 2011

2014-10-04 Thread rupert THURNER
that would be indeed valuable information.

rupert


On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since 2012 it's almost impossible to get information about the WMF
 fundraising... Does someone have insight in how WMF could be made again
 interested in fundraising transparency? Poking doesn't help.

 For instance: me, Perohanych and Mike Peel have been waiting 16 months for
 two simple and crucial pieces of information: how many times the fundraising
 banners have been displayed; what are the totals raised per country.
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2012/Report

 Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread Todd Allen
This is indeed an accomplishment. Well due congratulations to all involved.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 7:47 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree all Wikipedia articles are sort of peer reviewed. When I speak
 about GA/FA I refer to it as Wikipedia's semi-formal peer review process.

 With respect to authorship, the 5th to 10th contributors by number of
 editors were contacted and asked if they wished to be listed as an author.
 All of them declined feeling that they had not contributed sufficiently to
 justify being listed.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Amir E. Aharoni, 04/10/2014 15:09:


Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia?


Yes.


What is the reason for it?


GFDL


Is there a policy page about it?


Probably in the neighbourhood of 
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Importw%C3%BCnsche



Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?


No, only German projects.
The list of projects which make special use of import is at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Importer


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
this is cool, I can easily see that at least some of my articles are being 
translated to German!

 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:33:52 +0200
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 Amir E. Aharoni, 04/10/2014 15:09:
 
  Is it a usual practice in the German Wikipedia?
 
 Yes.
 
  What is the reason for it?
 
 GFDL
 
  Is there a policy page about it?
 
 Probably in the neighbourhood of 
 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Importw%C3%BCnsche
 
  Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?
 
 No, only German projects.
 The list of projects which make special use of import is at 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Importer
 
 Nemo
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

2014-10-04 Thread Mark

On 10/4/14, 4:33 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

Are there are Wikipedia projects that do this?


No, only German projects.
The list of projects which make special use of import is at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Importer


I just did some spot-checking, and there are edits of mine from en that 
have been imported to at least el and fr, in addition to de. So at least 
in the past it's been used more widely.


-Mark


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Traffic report: Shanah Tovah
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WikiProject report: Animals, farms, forests, USDA? It must be WikiProject 
Agriculture
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-04 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Oct 4, 2014 1:30 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com wrote:

I hope that
 someone will do something with our etherpad notes.


Link?
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[Wikimedia-l] product roadmap

2014-10-04 Thread James Salsman
Re the request for discussion about the product roadmap during the
metrics meeting at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJGC9zpbJpUt=1h06m30s

Do Foundation officials intend to address supporting article accuracy review?

I have asked several specific questions about
https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Develop_systems_for_accuracy_review
and I am certain that the proposal or something very similar is
urgently needed for the transition from content creation to content
maintenance on the largest projects. However at present there have
been no response. Does the Foundation have an alternative contingency
plan for article updating if active editors continue to decline? Or
are all the eggs being put into the basket of hoping that someone
thinks of something to reverse active editor decline, after at least a
dozen such attempts have yielded zero results over the past half
decade?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-10-04 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from Monday's quarterly review meeting of the
Foundation's Grantmaking department are now available at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Grantmaking/September_2014
.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi folks,

 to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course
 corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me
 and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process,
 starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according
 to Sue's narrowing focus recommendations which were approved by the
 Board [1]:

 - Visual Editor
 - Mobile (mobile contributions + Wikipedia Zero)
 - Editor Engagement (also known as the E2 and E3 teams)
 - Funds Dissemination Committe and expanded grant-making capacity

 I'm proposing the following initial schedule:

 January:
 - Editor Engagement Experiments

 February:
 - Visual Editor
 - Mobile (Contribs + Zero)

 March:
 - Editor Engagement Features (Echo, Flow projects)
 - Funds Dissemination Committee

 We’ll try doing this on the same day or adjacent to the monthly
 metrics meetings [2], since the team(s) will give a presentation on
 their recent progress, which will help set some context that would
 otherwise need to be covered in the quarterly review itself. This will
 also create open opportunities for feedback and questions.

 My goal is to do this in a manner where even though the quarterly
 review meetings themselves are internal, the outcomes are captured as
 meeting minutes and shared publicly, which is why I'm starting this
 discussion on a public list as well. I've created a wiki page here
 which we can use to discuss the concept further:

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews

 The internal review will, at minimum, include:

 Sue Gardner
 myself
 Howie Fung
 Team members and relevant director(s)
 Designated minute-taker

 So for example, for Visual Editor, the review team would be the Visual
 Editor / Parsoid teams, Sue, me, Howie, Terry, and a minute-taker.

 I imagine the structure of the review roughly as follows, with a
 duration of about 2 1/2 hours divided into 25-30 minute blocks:

 - Brief team intro and recap of team's activities through the quarter,
 compared with goals
 - Drill into goals and targets: Did we achieve what we said we would?
 - Review of challenges, blockers and successes
 - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other
 action items
 - Buffer time, debriefing

 Once again, the primary purpose of these reviews is to create improved
 structures for internal accountability, escalation points in cases
 where serious changes are necessary, and transparency to the world.

 In addition to these priority initiatives, my recommendation would be
 to conduct quarterly reviews for any activity that requires more than
 a set amount of resources (people/dollars). These additional reviews
 may however be conducted in a more lightweight manner and internally
 to the departments. We’re slowly getting into that habit in
 engineering.

 As we pilot this process, the format of the high priority reviews can
 help inform and support reviews across the organization.

 Feedback and questions are appreciated.

 All best,
 Erik

 [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings
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