Re: [Wikimedia-l] Literary works under public domain

[Asaf Bartov]

Thanks for sharing these great news! \o/

   A.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> A workshop on Bangla Wikipedia was held yesterday (12 November 2014) at
> State University of Bangladesh [1]. Students of the university and some
> faculty members participated at the workshop. Wikimedia Bangladesh (WMBD)
> executive members Ali Haider Khan and Tanweer, Bangla Wikipedia
> administrator Nahid Sultan and Campus Ambassador Zahid Hossain spoke at the
> workshop on Bangla Wikipedia, Bengali Wikimedia projects and Wikimedia
> movement in Bangladesh. Later the participants were given hands-on training
> about contributing to Wikipedia.
>
> At the end of the event, prominent Bangladeshi writer Mujtoba Ahmed
> Murshed, also a faculty member of the university, gave away all his
> literary works under public domain to publish them at Bangla Wikisource.
> Soon he will give WMBD relevant legal documents regarding copyright issues.
>
> [1]
>
> http://www.prothom-alo.com/technology/article/369241/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%9F%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%A2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%85%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B7%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A4
>
> Photos of the workshop:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Workshop_at_State_University
>
> Regards,
> Tanweer
> Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Craig Franklin]

I do agree with MZMcBride here.  I can understand being cautious, and I can
understand not having time to put out a detailed message in advance.  But I
simply cannot understand not being bothered to send off even a brief note
after the fact, explaining why.  What should have taken all of two minutes
to do was not done, with the result of a great deal of needless hassle for
our colleagues in Russia.  I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that
at least a notification would be made.  A great deal of progress has been
made on repairing the difficult relationship between the Foundation and the
community, and it would be a shame if that was undone through more moments
of carelessness like this one.

Cheers,
Craig Franklin



On 14 November 2014 11:16, MZMcBride  wrote:

> Geoff Brigham wrote:
> >In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
> >interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
> >donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
> >let people know.
> >
> >As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how
> >the WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its
> >sister projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions
> >independently from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.
>
> Right, you (or Lisa) could've said these paragraphs on the Wikimedia blog
> or this mailing list or Meta-Wiki or anywhere really and I think you
> would've saved yourself trouble. Transparency is an inherent part of
> Wikimedia and community members appropriately place great value in it.
>
> >We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
> >one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
> >operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
> >operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
> >variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
> >notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
> >flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
> >better address an issue like this in the future.
>
> I have to imagine that you discuss these types of issues among Wikimedia
> Foundation employees using e-mail. I don't really accept "the need for
> flexibility and speed at times." You're not faster than e-mail; you can
> shoot a note to a mailing list. There's even a dedicated
> fundrai...@lists.wikimedia.org mailing list. :-)
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[MZMcBride]

Geoff Brigham wrote:
>In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
>interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
>donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
>let people know.
>
>As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how
>the WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its
>sister projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions
>independently from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.

Right, you (or Lisa) could've said these paragraphs on the Wikimedia blog
or this mailing list or Meta-Wiki or anywhere really and I think you
would've saved yourself trouble. Transparency is an inherent part of
Wikimedia and community members appropriately place great value in it.

>We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
>one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
>operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
>operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
>variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
>notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
>flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
>better address an issue like this in the future.

I have to imagine that you discuss these types of issues among Wikimedia
Foundation employees using e-mail. I don't really accept "the need for
flexibility and speed at times." You're not faster than e-mail; you can
shoot a note to a mailing list. There's even a dedicated
fundrai...@lists.wikimedia.org mailing list. :-)

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Lila Tretikov]

All --

We do and will continue to defend the freedom knowledge and autonomy of our
sites in every corner of the world.

Due to rapidly changing circumstances in some areas, occasionally we have
to put holds on some activities. Currently we have a hold on fundraising in
Russia while we figure out the changing legal landscape. This is fairly
standard process that we go through many times throughout the year with
multiple regions. We are working as fast as we can towards solving this or
creating an acceptable work-around. We would appreciate your help and
support through this process.

Thank you,
Lila

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Dorożyński Janusz (4-webd) <
dorozyns...@wampnm.webd.pl> wrote:

> | -Original Message-
> | From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-
> | boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Brigham
> | Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:08 PM
> /
> | Hello rubin16 and all,
> |
> | I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to
> limit
> | fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
> sanctions or
> | US laws on Russia. ...
>
> Geoff, I do not share the satisfaction towards your above statement.
>
> The more words, the less clarity. The less respect for others. The more
> you deny something the more it is likely.
>
> We, me have not received answers to few simple questions. Instead, we
> received strenuous ensure that this is not a political issue, that matters
> are under consideration, that this will not have any impact, and so on and
> so on. That is why I personally believe that this is a political issue. Or
> ... but never mind, I do not want to offend anyone.
>
> And not as the opposite, but great respect and thanks for Rubin's efforts
> to disclose this mysterious issue.
>
> Regards, Janusz "Ency" Dorożyński
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Milos Rancic]

Geoff (and others from WMF), in the situations like this one is, it is much
less important why you did something than how you did something.

Global tensions are high, they could become the past in a year, but we
could be the main losers of the present tensions.

We depend on trust of people all over the world that we are doing one
extremely important and noble thing.

If you really didn't have any option to direct donors to Wikimedia Russia,
just one more sentence inside of the message would change the attitude: "We
don't run fundraising in Russia at the moment AND we are working to solve
the issue as soon as possible." -- if you give a link toward a blog post
where you are explaining what's the problem, even better. That makes the
difference.

Everything is fragile now and I am not willing to elaborate the worst-case
scenario. The point is that it's not anymore about things which could be
solved with a good will gesture inside of the movement. If something starts
going wrong, it would be extremely hard to fix it.

So, please (in Serbian, we use "please" just in exceptional situations), be
careful. One not well worded message could cost us a lot.
 On Nov 13, 2014 9:08 PM, "Geoff Brigham"  wrote:

> Hello rubin16 and all,
>
> I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
> fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
> sanctions or US laws on Russia.
>
> We are a diverse, global movement that spans the world, and we exist mostly
> online. However, our work takes place in the physical world, and each
> country has its own unique operating environment. At the WMF, we are
> constantly assessing what this means for the work of the movement.
>
> In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
> interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
> donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
> let people know.
>
> As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how the
> WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its sister
> projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions independently
> from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.
>
> We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
> one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
> operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
> operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
> variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
> notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
> flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
> better address an issue like this in the future.
>
> I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently
> under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Geoff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[4-webd]

| -Original Message-
| From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-
| boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Brigham
| Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:08 PM
/
| Hello rubin16 and all,
| 
| I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
| fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to sanctions 
or
| US laws on Russia. ...

Geoff, I do not share the satisfaction towards your above statement.

The more words, the less clarity. The less respect for others. The more you 
deny something the more it is likely.

We, me have not received answers to few simple questions. Instead, we received 
strenuous ensure that this is not a political issue, that matters are under 
consideration, that this will not have any impact, and so on and so on. That is 
why I personally believe that this is a political issue. Or ... but never mind, 
I do not want to offend anyone.

And not as the opposite, but great respect and thanks for Rubin's efforts to 
disclose this mysterious issue.

Regards, Janusz "Ency" Dorożyński


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Literary works under public domain

[Andy Mabbett]

On 13 November 2014 18:15, Tanweer Morshed  wrote:

> At the end of the event, prominent Bangladeshi writer Mujtoba Ahmed
> Murshed, also a faculty member of the university, gave away all his
> literary works under public domain to publish them at Bangla Wikisource.

What a splendid gesture!

Are there any Wikipedia articles (or a Wikidata item) about him?

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Lodewijk]

Hi Geoff,

Thanks for the explanation - much clearer to me now! I can understand it is
not always possible to give advance notice - I'm mainly suggesting to give
notice when possible (even afterwards) to the people who may have to face
the journalists/angry donors. The level of detail you describe above seems
to go a long way in that.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Geoff Brigham 
wrote:

> Hello rubin16 and all,
>
> I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
> fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
> sanctions or US laws on Russia.
>
> We are a diverse, global movement that spans the world, and we exist mostly
> online. However, our work takes place in the physical world, and each
> country has its own unique operating environment. At the WMF, we are
> constantly assessing what this means for the work of the movement.
>
> In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
> interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
> donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
> let people know.
>
> As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how the
> WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its sister
> projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions independently
> from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.
>
> We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
> one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
> operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
> operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
> variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
> notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
> flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
> better address an issue like this in the future.
>
> I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently
> under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Geoff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[rubin.happy]

Hi, Geoff!

Thank you for your answer.

The main question remains the same: what particular local legislature are
you considering as a risk at the moment? Probably, we can help you in its
assessment from our local view or we can start our work on some amendments
to our laws so that the issue will be somehow solved in the future (we
already have some successful experience in it, for example - <
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/03/17/wikimedia-ru-changes-russian-civil-code/
>).

I do understand that you are in the process of the assessment of current
situation, we are not asking you for final decisions or conclusions, and I
am not going to put WMF in charge of the preliminary thoughts shown.  At
least we would be happy to hear the reason of the fundraising stopped
yesterday (or some days ago) but not a month ago/a year ago: we have
difficult legislature, it's not to easy to work for us, but this is a
permanent situation. There were no significant legislature updates in the
recent time that we are aware of, that's why we still don't understand what
could change you assessment.

Best regards,
Linar

2014-11-13 23:08 GMT+03:00 Geoff Brigham :

> Hello rubin16 and all,
>
> I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
> fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
> sanctions or US laws on Russia.
>
> We are a diverse, global movement that spans the world, and we exist mostly
> online. However, our work takes place in the physical world, and each
> country has its own unique operating environment. At the WMF, we are
> constantly assessing what this means for the work of the movement.
>
> In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
> interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
> donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
> let people know.
>
> As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how the
> WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its sister
> projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions independently
> from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.
>
> We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
> one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
> operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
> operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
> variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
> notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
> flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
> better address an issue like this in the future.
>
> I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently
> under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Geoff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[rupert THURNER]

Hi geoff,  would it be an option to just link  to the Russian chapter's
page for donations?

Rupert
On Nov 13, 2014 9:08 PM, "Geoff Brigham"  wrote:

> Hello rubin16 and all,
>
> I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
> fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
> sanctions or US laws on Russia.
>
> We are a diverse, global movement that spans the world, and we exist mostly
> online. However, our work takes place in the physical world, and each
> country has its own unique operating environment. At the WMF, we are
> constantly assessing what this means for the work of the movement.
>
> In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
> interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
> donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
> let people know.
>
> As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how the
> WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its sister
> projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions independently
> from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.
>
> We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
> one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
> operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
> operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
> variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
> notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
> flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
> better address an issue like this in the future.
>
> I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently
> under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Geoff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On 13.11.2014 21:08, Geoff Brigham wrote:

Hello rubin16 and all,


...
I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters 
currently

under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.

Thank you,

Geoff


Hi Geoff,

thanks for your clarification.

As I guess everybody on this list knows, I am not a fan of Wikimedia 
Russia to put it mildly. I kind of understand why you did not want to 
give an advance notice. But I have difficulties understanding why you 
did not notify them AFTER you stopped accepting donations from Russia, 
so that they learn about it from a random posting at the third-party 
website.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Geoff Brigham]

Hello rubin16 and all,

I wanted to follow up on Lisa's email.  As she said, the decision to limit
fundraising in Russia was not a political decision or a response to
sanctions or US laws on Russia.

We are a diverse, global movement that spans the world, and we exist mostly
online. However, our work takes place in the physical world, and each
country has its own unique operating environment. At the WMF, we are
constantly assessing what this means for the work of the movement.

In that context, we feel that laws in Russia offer a number of possible
interpretations. So, out of an abundance of caution, we are not taking
donations from Russia right now.  If we feel the situation changes, we'll
let people know.

As Lisa also said, this does and will not have any impact at all on how the
WMF continues to support the Russian language Wikipedia, and its sister
projects. We pool our funding and make our budget decisions independently
from the geographical source, if any, of the funding.

We hear your point on transparency and advance notice, and it is a fair
one. That said, sometimes we will need to quickly pause fundraising
operations in different places while we gain clarity around how best to
operate.  We are making numerous decisions every day to respond to a wide
variety of issues and considerations. I would like to commit to advance
notice, but I don't think that will always be possible given the need for
flexibility and speed at times. Nevertheless, I am reflecting on how to
better address an issue like this in the future.

I appreciate the additional questions, but, as these are matters currently
under consideration, I'm not in a position to share further right now.

Thank you,

Geoff
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation of Wikimedia Belgium

[JP Béland]

Félicitations !

JP Béland
aka Amqui


2014-10-30 20:32 GMT-06:00 Romaine Wiki :

> Hello Ilario,
>
> You can find our statutes from this page:
> https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter_Statutes_%26_Bylaws
>
> Greetings,
> Romaine
>
>
> 
>
>
> Foundation of Wikimedia Belgium:
> https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_of_Wikimedia_Belgium
>
> Become a member:
> https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Be_a_member_of_Wikimedia_Belgium
>
> Our website: http://www.wikimedia.be
>
> 2014-10-30 23:30 GMT+01:00 Ilario Valdelli :
>
> > Hi Romaine,
> > good news.
> >
> > Considering that the event is connected with the official recognition, I
> > suppose you have a bylaws but in the website I can find any.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Romaine Wiki 
> > wrote:
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> > > We have the honour of inviting you to the celebration of the official
> > > constitution of Wikimedia Belgium asbl/vzw.
> > >
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> Wikimedia
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> > promotes
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> > >
> > > The celebration will take place in the drawing rooms of the president
> of
> > > the Belgian Chamber of Representatives, Rue de la Loi/Wetstraat 12 on
> > > Wednesday 19th of November 2014 at 15 p.m.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please confirm your presence by e-mail via w...@wikimedia.org
> > >
> > > We hope to meet you there.
> > >
> > > On behalf of the board of Wikimedia Belgium,
> > >
> > > Romaine
> > >
> > >
> > > PS: The entrance to the drawing rooms of the president is for visitors
> at
> > > the rear of the building at the Rue de Louvain/Leuvenseweg.
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Foundation of Wikimedia Belgium:
> > > https://be.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_of_Wikimedia_Belgium
> > >
> > > Become a member:
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[Wikimedia-l] Literary works under public domain

[Tanweer Morshed]

Dear all,

A workshop on Bangla Wikipedia was held yesterday (12 November 2014) at
State University of Bangladesh [1]. Students of the university and some
faculty members participated at the workshop. Wikimedia Bangladesh (WMBD)
executive members Ali Haider Khan and Tanweer, Bangla Wikipedia
administrator Nahid Sultan and Campus Ambassador Zahid Hossain spoke at the
workshop on Bangla Wikipedia, Bengali Wikimedia projects and Wikimedia
movement in Bangladesh. Later the participants were given hands-on training
about contributing to Wikipedia.

At the end of the event, prominent Bangladeshi writer Mujtoba Ahmed
Murshed, also a faculty member of the university, gave away all his
literary works under public domain to publish them at Bangla Wikisource.
Soon he will give WMBD relevant legal documents regarding copyright issues.

[1]
http://www.prothom-alo.com/technology/article/369241/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%9F%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%9F%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%A2%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%85%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B7%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A4

Photos of the workshop:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Workshop_at_State_University

Regards,
Tanweer
Wikimedia Bangladesh
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Jon Davies]

Where do we meet - is there a meeting room big enough?

On 13 November 2014 15:34, Osmar Valdebenito 
wrote:

> Thanks Jon for your work with Wikimedia UK and welcome to the ex-EDs group
> :)
>
> 2014-11-13 9:04 GMT-03:00 Jon Davies :
>
> > Thanks Erik.
> >
> > On 12 November 2014 17:42, Erik Moeller  wrote:
> >
> > > Jon --
> > >
> > > Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great
> > team
> > > and great foundations!  Hope to see you in different corners of the
> > > movement & globe.
> > >
> > > Warmly,
> > > Erik
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> >
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> > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
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> > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Osmar Valdebenito]

Thanks Jon for your work with Wikimedia UK and welcome to the ex-EDs group
:)

2014-11-13 9:04 GMT-03:00 Jon Davies :

> Thanks Erik.
>
> On 12 November 2014 17:42, Erik Moeller  wrote:
>
> > Jon --
> >
> > Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great
> team
> > and great foundations!  Hope to see you in different corners of the
> > movement & globe.
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Erik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Bulgaria User Group

[Ivan Nikčević]

Congratulations and a worm welcome to our close neighbors!

*Ivan Nikčević*
Executive Director
Wikimedia Serbia - rs.wikimedia.org -
+381 60 7454 772

*Imagine  a world
 in which every single person on the
planet is given free  access to the sum
of all  human
 knowledge
. That's what we're doing.*

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Nurunnaby Hasive  wrote:

>  Congratulations to the Bulgarian User Group!
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Richard Symonds <
> > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Bulgaria! How do we get in touch with you?
> > >
> >
> > Their Meta page, linked from the announcement linked from the top of this
> > thread, is useful:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Bulgaria#Communication
> >
> >A.
> > --
> > Asaf Bartov
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

[Jon Davies]

Thanks Erik.

On 12 November 2014 17:42, Erik Moeller  wrote:

> Jon --
>
> Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great team
> and great foundations!  Hope to see you in different corners of the
> movement & globe.
>
> Warmly,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Dorożyński Janusz]

| -Original Message-
| From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-
| boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Gruwell
| Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:46 AM
/
| We are not running fundraising in Russia at this time, but I want to assure 
you
| that this was not a decision motivated by politics.

Hi Lisa!

Well, it's clear - now foundation is not running fundraising in Russia. But, at 
what time foundation halted this one, if it ever was carried out? Could you 
kindly give us the exact date?

Regards, Janusz "Ency" Dorożyński


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Liam Wyatt]

To follow up on Peter's comment:

Does "we're not fundraising in Russia right now" mean that the WMF isn't
proactively seeking donations with a fundraising campaign visible on the
Russian language Wikipedia, or, does it mean that the WMF is
disallowing/refusing donations coming from Russia/in Roubles?

IF it is the first option, then that's the WMF's choice :-)
IF it is the second option, then why wasn't the local community/chapter
informed or some Russian-language documentation prepared in advance?

-Liam

On Thursday, 13 November 2014, Peter Southwood 
wrote:

> Are you accepting donations from Russia at present?
>
> Peter Southwood
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org  [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org ] On Behalf Of Lisa
> Gruwell
> Sent: 13 November 2014 05:46 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia
>
> Hello rubin16,
>
> We are not running fundraising in Russia at this time, but I want to
> assure you that this was not a decision motivated by politics.
>
> We take compliance with appropriate laws very seriously in everything we
> do. Out of an abundance of caution, we're not fundraising in Russia right
> now.
>
> Of course, the fact that we are not fundraising in Russia does and will
> not have any impact at all on how the WMF continues to support the Russian
> language Wikipedia, its sister projects, and the Russian Wikimedian
> community.
>
> Thank you,
> Lisa Gruwell
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:44 PM, rubin.happy  > wrote:
>
> > There were no recent changes in sanctions and I don't understand why
> > this turn off in donations happened just now.
> >
> > Ideas about SWIFT kick out are not relevant here, as it was just a
> > discussion some months ago but no such action happened.
> >
> > Furthermore, the sanctions were placed on particular companies and
> > individuals, there were no prohibitions against all financial relations.
> > So, I could understand if donations weren't accepted when they were
> > sent via a couple of banks under sanctions, but I want to repeat that
> > there is, for example, no prohibition to receive money from Russians.
> >
> > rubin16
> > 13 нояб. 2014 г. 4:01 пользователь "David Gerard"  >
> > написал:
> >
> > > I'm presuming this is sanctions against Russia kicking in; all sorts
> > > of business has been stopped dead in its tracks, not just charity
> > > donations. There's even serious moves to kick Russia out of the
> > > SWIFT
> > > network:
> > >
> > http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-04/ultimate-sanction-barr
> > ing-russian-banks-from-swift-money-system
> > > It strikes me as quite unlikely that there's anything at all WMF can
> > > actually do about this. Possibly it could have been handled better,
> > > but that won't change the fact.
> > >
> > > On 13 November 2014 00:12, Craig Franklin
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm sure that you're correct here Joseph, but this is another
> > > > example I think where the Foundation should have notified the
> > > > relevant chapter
> > > > *before* taking the action, so that they would be ready when the
> > > questions
> > > > started rolling in.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, I think we're getting back to the bad old days of
> > chapter
> > > > and user group press contacts being the last people to find out
> > > > about potentially controversial issues like this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Craig Franklin
> > > > (personal view only)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 13 November 2014 10:07, Joseph Seddon  >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I would hate to preclude any answer from the foundation. However
> > > >> the
> > > laws
> > > >> that govern the foundation are that of the US. Given the previous
> > > >> and renewed ongoing palaver with Ukraine and the presence of
> > > >> economic
> > > sanctions
> > > >> and the increasing likelihood of on top of what is already
> > > >> present, I imagine this related to that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Im not sure of what legal risks accepting such donations would
> > > >> expose
> > > the
> > > >> foundation to. However such precautions have been made in the
> > > >> past
> > > relating
> > > >> to unrest.
> > > >>
> > > >> Its no slight on the country or its individuals, just a
> > > >> precautionary measure.
> > > >>
> > > >> Seddon
> > > >>  On 12 Nov 2014 19:48, "Federico Leva (Nemo)"
> > > >> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> rubin.happy, 12/11/2014 18:48:
> > > >>>
> > >  We received some alerts from our users that donations are now
> > blocked
> > >  when user is from Russia:
> > > 
> > > http://habrastorage.org/files/31b/b1f/ec9/31bb1fec9b9e45abb6ac4babcc
> > > 2371
> > >  84.png
> > > 
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for the information. Everyone can see the same warning by
> > > clicking
> > > >>> the "Russia" link in
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
> > > >>> Through what channels are donations blocked? Did anyone try

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

[Peter Southwood]

Are you accepting donations from Russia at present?

Peter Southwood

-Original Message-
From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Gruwell
Sent: 13 November 2014 05:46 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Fundraiser] fundraising blocked in Russia

Hello rubin16,

We are not running fundraising in Russia at this time, but I want to assure you 
that this was not a decision motivated by politics.

We take compliance with appropriate laws very seriously in everything we do. 
Out of an abundance of caution, we're not fundraising in Russia right now.

Of course, the fact that we are not fundraising in Russia does and will not 
have any impact at all on how the WMF continues to support the Russian language 
Wikipedia, its sister projects, and the Russian Wikimedian community.

Thank you,
Lisa Gruwell

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:44 PM, rubin.happy  wrote:

> There were no recent changes in sanctions and I don't understand why 
> this turn off in donations happened just now.
>
> Ideas about SWIFT kick out are not relevant here, as it was just a 
> discussion some months ago but no such action happened.
>
> Furthermore, the sanctions were placed on particular companies and 
> individuals, there were no prohibitions against all financial relations.
> So, I could understand if donations weren't accepted when they were 
> sent via a couple of banks under sanctions, but I want to repeat that 
> there is, for example, no prohibition to receive money from Russians.
>
> rubin16
> 13 нояб. 2014 г. 4:01 пользователь "David Gerard" 
> написал:
>
> > I'm presuming this is sanctions against Russia kicking in; all sorts 
> > of business has been stopped dead in its tracks, not just charity 
> > donations. There's even serious moves to kick Russia out of the 
> > SWIFT
> > network:
> >
> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-04/ultimate-sanction-barr
> ing-russian-banks-from-swift-money-system
> > It strikes me as quite unlikely that there's anything at all WMF can 
> > actually do about this. Possibly it could have been handled better, 
> > but that won't change the fact.
> >
> > On 13 November 2014 00:12, Craig Franklin 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm sure that you're correct here Joseph, but this is another 
> > > example I think where the Foundation should have notified the 
> > > relevant chapter
> > > *before* taking the action, so that they would be ready when the
> > questions
> > > started rolling in.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I think we're getting back to the bad old days of
> chapter
> > > and user group press contacts being the last people to find out 
> > > about potentially controversial issues like this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Craig Franklin
> > > (personal view only)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13 November 2014 10:07, Joseph Seddon 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would hate to preclude any answer from the foundation. However 
> > >> the
> > laws
> > >> that govern the foundation are that of the US. Given the previous 
> > >> and renewed ongoing palaver with Ukraine and the presence of 
> > >> economic
> > sanctions
> > >> and the increasing likelihood of on top of what is already 
> > >> present, I imagine this related to that.
> > >>
> > >> Im not sure of what legal risks accepting such donations would 
> > >> expose
> > the
> > >> foundation to. However such precautions have been made in the 
> > >> past
> > relating
> > >> to unrest.
> > >>
> > >> Its no slight on the country or its individuals, just a 
> > >> precautionary measure.
> > >>
> > >> Seddon
> > >>  On 12 Nov 2014 19:48, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" 
> > >> 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> rubin.happy, 12/11/2014 18:48:
> > >>>
> >  We received some alerts from our users that donations are now
> blocked
> >  when user is from Russia:
> > 
> > http://habrastorage.org/files/31b/b1f/ec9/31bb1fec9b9e45abb6ac4babcc
> > 2371
> >  84.png
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the information. Everyone can see the same warning by
> > clicking
> > >>> the "Russia" link in
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
> > >>> Through what channels are donations blocked? Did anyone try 
> > >>> sending a wire to the EU (SEPA) account (IBAN 
> > >>> GB54CHAS60924241034640), or a
> > PayPal
> > >>> donation?
> > >>>
> > >>> Nemo
> > >>>
> > >>> P.s.: ROTFLOL "Please email don...@wikimedia.org for more
> information
> > on
> > >>> how to make a bank transfer to the Wikimedia Foundation." In 
> > >>> case
> > someone
> > >>> forgets there is an ocean between Europe and USA.
> > >>>
> > >>> ___
> > >>> Fundraiser mailing list
> > >>> fundrai...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/fundraiser
> > >>>
> > >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Project Med

[Andrew Gray]

It's possible to do this with a single-purpose account and "Email me
when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" (which was re-enabled
on enwiki a few years back). Not the most straightforward process, but
it's there; you could do it with a regular account, but you'd get
swamped fast!

A better solution would be some kind of "prioritised watchlist", which
has been proposed a few times but I'm not sure if anyone's ever worked
on it.

Andrew.

On 13 November 2014 04:12, Risker  wrote:
> Actually, as I recall, email alerts for changes in articles has never been
> activated on English Wikipedia.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On 12 November 2014 22:53, Anthony Cole  wrote:
>
>> Agree with all that, Svetlana - though we don't have a button at the top of
>> articles making it easy for readers to enable email alerts. 99.999% of
>> readers wouldn't know it was available. (This is something BLP subjects
>> would appreciate too, I'm sure.)
>>
>> Anthony Cole 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM, svetlana 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Anthony for sharing your ideas!
>> >
>> > Anthony Cole wrote:
>> > > Svetlana, presently we have
>> > >
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Lists_of_pages/Articles
>> > > which reports all changes to articles tagged on their talk page as "of
>> > > interest to WikiProjedt Medicine" (about 33,000 so far).
>> >
>> > This is a grand tool. Though
>> > 1) it doesn't filter for new page creations (would it be nice to have a
>> > "new page" tag?), and
>> > 2) is not as grained as subcats would be (where people would be able to
>> > pick a more narrow topic to watch).
>> >
>> > Anthony Cole wrote:
>> > > I'd like all our
>> > > medical articles to have a button at the top saying "email me when this
>> > > article changes", so interested experts could easily adopt a few
>> > articles.
>> >
>> > Yes, this is a watchlist thing, it's already there (interested people can
>> > enable email delivery).
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Project Med

[Anthony Cole]

Anne, it's under
> Preferences
> User profile
"Email me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed".

Anthony Cole 


On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Risker  wrote:

> Actually, as I recall, email alerts for changes in articles has never been
> activated on English Wikipedia.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
> On 12 November 2014 22:53, Anthony Cole  wrote:
>
> > Agree with all that, Svetlana - though we don't have a button at the top
> of
> > articles making it easy for readers to enable email alerts. 99.999% of
> > readers wouldn't know it was available. (This is something BLP subjects
> > would appreciate too, I'm sure.)
> >
> > Anthony Cole 
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:17 PM, svetlana 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Anthony for sharing your ideas!
> > >
> > > Anthony Cole wrote:
> > > > Svetlana, presently we have
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Lists_of_pages/Articles
> > > > which reports all changes to articles tagged on their talk page as
> "of
> > > > interest to WikiProjedt Medicine" (about 33,000 so far).
> > >
> > > This is a grand tool. Though
> > > 1) it doesn't filter for new page creations (would it be nice to have a
> > > "new page" tag?), and
> > > 2) is not as grained as subcats would be (where people would be able to
> > > pick a more narrow topic to watch).
> > >
> > > Anthony Cole wrote:
> > > > I'd like all our
> > > > medical articles to have a button at the top saying "email me when
> this
> > > > article changes", so interested experts could easily adopt a few
> > > articles.
> > >
> > > Yes, this is a watchlist thing, it's already there (interested people
> can
> > > enable email delivery).
> > >
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