Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Site Admin
Hello WMF We agree with the previous posters RYAN about lack of transparency, and COMPLETE INEFFICIENCY and arrogance in communications by/to/with your communities and volunteers. Please inform and educate why anonymous WMF communities are writing false, concocted and fabricated articles about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a good thread -- it's important to be unified in our message, proud of it, and aware of how broadly it spreads. Every campaign both raises some funds for the project, gives supporters an opportunity to talk about Wiki*edia with their friends, and shifts public perception of who we are,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Jean-Frédéric
Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f 2014-12-03 18:06 GMT+00:00 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com: 110% !!! We bleu our first goal. Christophe, whether you are posting out of love for this awesome project or just for the sake of making puns, I cantal.

[Wikimedia-l] Community engagement - Product Survey

2014-12-04 Thread Liam Wyatt
This! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_(Product)/Product_Surveys Thank you to the WMF Community Engagement team for trialling this new way of prioritising improvements to tools - by asking the community for some structured feedback. As the page says: The *Product Roadmap

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f 2014-12-03 18:06 GMT+00:00 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com : 110% !!! We bleu our first goal. Christophe, whether you are posting out of love for this awesome

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Pierre-Yves Beaudouin
Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit : On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f 2014-12-03 18:06 GMT+00:00 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com: 110% !!! We bleu our first goal. Christophe, whether

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread James Heilman
Hey All I would like to share the following: “Wikipedia has been the most widely used single source of information about Ebola in the most affected countries, among people who searched for information through Bing. The use of Wikipedia was greater than that of either CNN, the World Health

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread Jens Best
Hi James, thanks for sharing. This shows exemplary the success of Wikipedia for being a trusted spot for information. It also shows its growing responsibilities. News like this are encouraging on so many levels. Best regards Jens Best Am 04.12.2014 15:34 schrieb James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
Excellent, James! On Dec 4, 2014 3:43 PM, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi James, thanks for sharing. This shows exemplary the success of Wikipedia for being a trusted spot for information. It also shows its growing responsibilities. News like this are encouraging on so many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Site Admin
Dear Mr. Klein PS: The poster below is part of a deranged sockfarm, now blocked from en:wp, which has started spamming WM mailing lists (see the India list) and is squatting the site http://www.wikimedia.xyz/ . Please do not feed, and moderate as needed. As a WMF Trustee, we suggest that you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread Thyge
What a positive and encouraging information. Thanks a lot, James Heilman! Regards, Thyge 2014-12-04 15:34 GMT+01:00 James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com: Hey All I would like to share the following: “Wikipedia has been the most widely used single source of information about Ebola in the most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Chris Keating
Which cheese do you use to coax a bear up a mountain? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit : On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread Anna Stillwell
This is great, James. Given this and the comment Jimmy made on stage about Wikipedia becoming slightly more trusted in news than the BBC... I would say we are becoming one of the more trusted sources of serious subject-matter news. Way to go! Let me know where you end up submitting. Would love to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Ebola

2014-12-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If I may I would love to blog about this :) Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com On 4 December 2014 at 18:10, Anna Stillwell astillw...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is great, James. Given this and the comment Jimmy made on stage about Wikipedia becoming slightly more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 04.12.2014 02:30, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: John Mark Vandenberg wrote: i.e. specifically asking previously highly productive volunteers who have stopped contributing whether they feel the increase in funds has not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Lila Tretikov
I recommend those of you who would like to come up with some test wording assuming the current word count do so and after you pick top 3-5 we can pilot with one of our next user groups. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 04.12.2014 02:30, John Mark

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 04.12.2014 02:30, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:46 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: John Mark Vandenberg wrote: i.e. specifically asking previously highly productive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community engagement - Product Survey

2014-12-04 Thread Lila Tretikov
FYI -- this is just one pilot in our program to improve community participation and direct prioritization of editor-focused engineering work. More to come. Thank you team and the community. Lila On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: This!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF November 2014 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 4, 19:00 UTC

2014-12-04 Thread Praveena Maharaj
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 7 PM UTC (11 AM PST). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

2014-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
Hi mike, That pipes are dumb is fundamental for having cheap Internet access. Most contracts for Wikipedia zero are done with telcos which either want to catch up in getting more reach in the population, or those which have a higher price for data. Not allowing them to use wikipedia to influence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Charles Gregory
Just for reference, John is correct - our website has been having technical issues lately, which sometimes results in old revisions being made visible. I can confirm that John is not on the board of WMAU:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread MZMcBride
I checked my inbox today to find a note from a friend asking if Wikipedia was okay. My reply was essentially Wikipedia is fine, if you want to donate, make an edit or two. I wonder how many Wikimedians are getting the same notes of concern. I'd be quite surprised, for example, if Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: New board elected, annual plan postponed.

2014-12-04 Thread Frans Grijzenhout
Hi Tim, congratulations with the new board. It is difficult at the moment I guess and I sincerely hope that the new board can find consensus within the movement lead WMDE back into the frontier of the international movement. Kind regards, Frans *Frans Grijzenhout*, voorzitter / chair +31 6

[Wikimedia-l] Fundraising in the UK

2014-12-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've split this from a more general thread, for convenience... On 3 December 2014 at 01:16, Megan Hernandez mhernan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Starting today, banners are being shown to 100% of anonymous readers on English Wikipedia in the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. How much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF November 2014 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 4, 19:00 UTC

2014-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Thanks everyone for a fantastic metrics meeting. I had two questions which I raised on IRC which didn't get a chance to be addressed. Briefly: 1) Is the rise in global south page views specifically to *enwiki*, or is it to local wikis? 2) Does the page view decrease in Latin America correspond

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: New board elected, annual plan postponed.

2014-12-04 Thread Lodewijk
Wow, it seems that all previous presidents except Ralf Liebau were elected into one board! Impressive... Lodewijk On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Frans Grijzenhout fr...@wikimedia.nl wrote: Hi Tim, congratulations with the new board. It is difficult at the moment I guess and I sincerely hope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:26 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I checked my inbox today to find a note from a friend asking if Wikipedia was okay. My reply was essentially Wikipedia is fine, if you want to donate, make an edit or two. I wonder how many Wikimedians are getting the same

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread Richard Symonds
I don't know, Chris, but I suspect you'll tell us... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread phoebe ayers
With Sam, I'd like to add my thanks to Lila, and to the fundraising team which has done an extraordinary job of testing, optimizing, and running our fundraising campaigns. And thanks to all of you, for being concerned about and invested in our projects' public image and financial health and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-12-04 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudo...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Le 2014-12-04 14:57, Martijn Hoekstra a écrit : On Dec 4, 2014 2:46 PM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again, I tried to remain brie-f 2014-12-03 18:06 GMT+00:00 Christophe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Lodewijk
I think this discussion and the uproar is only in part because of the wordings used, the size of the banners (which are maybe terrible, and I get exhausted from seeing the banner all year round because I have bad luck to be in so many test groups somehow). A big chunk is about the usual:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Lila, when you say, pilot with one of our next user groups, when would this pilot happen, and whom/how many people would this pilot user group comprise? Best, Andreas On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: I recommend those of you who would like to come up with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Ryan Lane
phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@... writes: With Sam, I'd like to add my thanks to Lila, and to the fundraising team which has done an extraordinary job of testing, optimizing, and running our fundraising campaigns. And thanks to all of you, for being concerned about and invested in our projects'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@... writes: With Sam, I'd like to add my thanks to Lila, and to the fundraising team which has done an extraordinary job of testing, optimizing, and running our fundraising campaigns. And thanks to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community engagement - Product Survey

2014-12-04 Thread Rachel diCerbo
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: This! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_(Product)/Product_Surveys Thank you to the WMF Community Engagement team for trialling this new way of prioritising improvements to tools - by asking the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:49 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Personally speaking: I happen to like this year's banners, more than last year's. The boxes and disclaimers are clearer, the text is to the point. And yes, I think the messaging is accurate. This is the text I'm seeing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Ryan Lane
phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@... writes: You're asking me to prove a negative. My inability to do so has nothing to do with NDAs or the lack of them. There's no secret data that shows that well, the banners make people hate Wikipedia but they have a good donation rate. And if there was, why

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF November 2014 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 4, 19:00 UTC

2014-12-04 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks everyone for a fantastic metrics meeting. I had two questions which I raised on IRC which didn't get a chance to be addressed. Briefly: 1) Is the rise in global south page views specifically to *enwiki*,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Mark
On 12/5/14, 1:07 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: For me, the problem is with the combined impact of the phrase ask our readers to help us, the word survive and the words keep it online and ad-free for another year. Yes, I've found myself in awkward discussions caused by this as well. One person I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread svetlana
Hi, On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, at 17:35, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: svetlana, 03/12/2014 23:20: It is already co-owned. It is just that people haven't bothered to try talking to the Fundraising Team. {{citation needed}} Go look at the number of people who tried on fundraiser@,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@... writes: You're asking me to prove a negative. My inability to do so has nothing to do with NDAs or the lack of them. There's no secret data that shows that well, the banners make people hate

[Wikimedia-l] [x-post] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on December 10, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

2014-12-04 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
[x-posted announcement] Hello, Please save the date for the monthly IRC office hour of the Wikimedia Language Engineering team on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 at 1700 UTC on #wikimedia-office. Project updates will include information about the new version of Content Translation[1] and plans for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF November 2014 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, December 4, 19:00 UTC

2014-12-04 Thread Salvador A
Hi Asaf! I was reading the presentation on metrics and the point about Mexico's decreasing of views on Wikipedia called my attention. From your answer to Scott I read that those are only statistics from enwiki, do you know if the same happened in eswiki or, conversely, eswiki grow the number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

2014-12-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 04/12/2014 23:20: Given all this context, in our meeting the board discussed whether we should try to raise more money now to build our long-term reserves There is so much to say about this let's milk the cow before it's too old approach that it's definitely out of scope for