Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage
-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:21:21 +0100 From: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage Message-ID: 54873da1.7090...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Amir E. Aharoni, 09/12/2014 17:10: If anybody in the above projects thinks that the MoodBar is useful then it should probably stay enabled, and maybe even revived and installed on other projects. But if the feedback left by new users through this tool is not actually read and handled, then it should probably be disabled. This has already been investigated and documented as part of our routine configuration cleanup. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoodBar#2013 Nemo -- I hope the test for a feature like this is whether a community has consensus for it to be deployed. It is entirely possible that one person finds something useful even where the vast majority consider it does more harm than good. Jonathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Out now: Open Content – A Practical Guide to Using Creative Commons Licences
[sorry for cross-posting] Hi there, maybe some of you have seen it already: Wikimedia Deutschland, the German Commission for UNESCO and North Rhine-Westphalian Library Service Centre just published a guide on how to correctly use Creative Commons licenses. You can read all about it here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/12/09/using-licenses-easy-and-legal/. The guide also has a pretty nice Meta page ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Content_-_A_Practical_Guide_to_Using_Creative_Commons_Licences) where you can read the full text or download the PDF. Thanks to Jean-Fred for turning on the translation tool! I am looking forward to the guide being available in many, many languages. If you have any comments or questions, please get in touch with me via e-mail or the talk page on Meta ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Open_Content_-_A_Practical_Guide_to_Using_Creative_Commons_Licences ). Best, Katja -- Katja Ullrich Politik Gesellschaft - Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Telefon 030 - 219 158 26-0 www.wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on December 10, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC
Hello, A quick reminder about Language Engineering team's monthly IRC office hour later today at 1700 UTC on #wikimedia-office. Please see below for the original announcement, local time, and agenda. We will post logs on metawiki[1] after the event. Thanks Runa [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Office_hour_logs Monthly IRC Office Hour: === # Date: December 10, 2014 (Wednesday) # Time: 1700 UTC (Check local time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20141210T1700) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office # Agenda: 1. Updates from the Content Translation project 2. Q A/Discussions -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:26 AM Subject: [x-post] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on December 10, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org [x-posted announcement] Hello, Please save the date for the monthly IRC office hour of the Wikimedia Language Engineering team on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 at 1700 UTC on #wikimedia-office. Project updates will include information about the new version of Content Translation[1] and plans for the next release. Please see below for event details and local time. Thanks Runa [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Announcement-November2014 Monthly IRC Office Hour: === # Date: December 10, 2014 (Wednesday) # Time: 1700 UTC (Check local time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20141210T1700) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office # Agenda: 1. Updates from the Content Translation project 2. Q A/Discussions -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community Ireland as a Wikimedia User Group
Congratulations to Wikimedia Community Ireland! Regards, Tanweer Wikimedia Bangladesh On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote: Congratulations from your friends at WMUK! Michael ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Students Editing
Hey All We must scale back the education program working on English medical articles immediately. It is simple not working. Students are filling our medical articles with plagiarism, poorly sourced content, and duplicate content. This is not good for Wikipedia, it is not good for the students, it is not good for their Universities and it is not good for the community of Wikipedia editors. There appears to be little oversight other than the few volunteer that make up the core community of editors. It is more than we can handle. We will go the way of Google Knol if this is scaled up. I believe in the collaboration between schools and Wikipedia in theory but not like this. Evidence is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_noticeboard/Incidents#I_simply_don.27t_know -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian Clinical Professor, University of British Columbia President of Wiki Project Med Foundation The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Placebook Wiki Project Proposal
I'd like to know more about the proposal; is there a page on Meta that describes it in more detail? Specifically, I'd like to know: * You mention platform. Are you proposing a new top-level wiki project that would require critical mass to succeed? * Wouldn't this be a good fit for additions to the existing data schemas in Wikidata? Even if you have specific geo-oriented functionality in mind, it seems the current way to do this would be to build out tool on WMF Labs. * Is there a free dataset mapping events/people/places to coordinates that could be used to jumpstart the initiative? * I seem to remember seeing coords as structured data on some Wikipedia articles. Are there existing efforts to join/build on? I ask these questions in this forum, because I think that physically mapping data on Wikipedia and other projects is a great idea and could have a large and broad impact across all WMF-hosted projects. I look forward to the day that I can query our entire set of articles by what's happened, when it happened, who made it happen, and *where* it all went down. Best. ,Wil On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Joe Aeberhard joe_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hello, I just wanted to promote a project proposal that I'd really welcome any feedback on - PlaceBook Wiki - Meta | | | | | | | | | PlaceBook Wiki - MetaCreation of a platform that would allow people to create wiki-type entries to record both historical, public narrative and personal memory and, by fixing these with GPS co-ordinates, content could be shared through the physical landscape in which it occurred. | | | | View on meta.wikimedia.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | The essential idea behind my proposal is that we could open up novel and productive ways of accessing knowledge about our physical environment by allowing the wiki posts to be indexed by GPS co-ordinates, so that we build up a catalogue of information about specific places. This information could be about matters of general historical importance, but also it could be much more broad than that and provide a way for individuals to record their own personally significant events that occurred at a specific location, which would provide more of a folk history of a place too. Through seeing what has occurred and who has lived in that location we potentially create a new way for people to engage with their environment and hopefully provide new narratives for their sense of personal and community identity. Anyhow, it seems very likely to me that systems similar to the one I've proposed will be created in the near future, so I am hoping that an organisation like the Wiki Foundation could be involved in the beginning, so that there is a chance that a community based, not-for-profit ethos could get a strong foothold and prevent what could be a very valuable resource being controlled solely by commercial imperatives. Any feedback on this would be great, as I would like to hear your views, both critical and supportive. Joe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Placebook Wiki Project Proposal
Thanks for your feedback Wil and glad that you like the idea. This is the link to a page giving some more detail on this proposal - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PlaceBook_Wiki Initially I was thinking that a new platform would be the way to go with this, as I had thought that the type of content being posted could be likely to contain more multimedia resources than the standard wiki postings and so was thinking about the volume of data that might need to be stored and how this could be linked in as flexible a way as possible - perhaps using a Graph database. I was also thinking that a new platform could allow us to tailor an API specifically for this using the GPS co-ordinates as the primary means of indexing information and that this could open up the data to being used in unexpected ways by other developers. However, that was before I had found out about the WikiData project, which as you suggested, could at first glance looks like it could be a good fit for adaptation for use with this proposal. I've not had a chance to study its data schemas in any depth to research its suitability in detail though, but am hoping to find time to do so soon, so any pointers about the best place to start would be gratefully received. The co-ordinates link you mentioned seems to give you geographical information about the location via a Geohack page, which is not without interest. However, it does not seem to be providing a gateway onto a richer set of resources about that specific location - so we don't seem to be able to access more narrative content with images and footage of significant events that may have occurred there or stories of those who have lived in this place. I like your thoughts about dataset mappings to jumpstart this and was thinking that the way to do this would be to team up with local historical societies to begin with to get them to take ownership of their local areas and begin to upload images and data with their commentaries and narratives. With an organisation like the Wiki Foundations backing this, it would lend a lot of credibility to the project and I'm sure this would be met with enthusiasm by professionals and amateurs alike, particularly if it was seen as a way of promoting local heritage. For instance, English Heritage already has a system of assigning blue plaques to houses of special interest in the UK and so I imagine it would be relatively easy to persuade them to link these into this kind platform, along with images of the people in question and more detail of what they did at the specific residence that was of such importance. Ideally I would hope that ordinary people accessing this information would start to realise that they could upload personal narrative and recollections to the same system, so in effect affording them an opportunity to create their own blue plaque and in so doing create a folk history of the locations in which they live. I think there is a real human need to try to leave a mark and record something of themselves within the landscape - you just need to look back at cave paintings to see that this is an ancient urge within us. This is one of the reasons I'm confident that a system similar to the one I've proposed is fairly inevitable, as it's ultimately motivated by human need but facilitated by current technology, rather than vice versa. My initial thoughts were that this natural desire could allow us to charge a small fee based on the number of megabytes posted, which could be used to guarantee the data storage for a certain number of years (or decades), as well as funding the project more widely and helping to finance the cataloguing of other items that could be of more general historical importance. Further thoughts anyone may have on this gratefully received. On Wednesday, 10 December 2014, 22:45, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'd like to know more about the proposal; is there a page on Meta that describes it in more detail? Specifically, I'd like to know: * You mention platform. Are you proposing a new top-level wiki project that would require critical mass to succeed? * Wouldn't this be a good fit for additions to the existing data schemas in Wikidata? Even if you have specific geo-oriented functionality in mind, it seems the current way to do this would be to build out tool on WMF Labs. * Is there a free dataset mapping events/people/places to coordinates that could be used to jumpstart the initiative? * I seem to remember seeing coords as structured data on some Wikipedia articles. Are there existing efforts to join/build on? I ask these questions in this forum, because I think that physically mapping data on Wikipedia and other projects is a great idea and could have a large and broad impact across all WMF-hosted projects. I look forward to the day that I can query our entire set of articles by what's happened, when it happened, who made it happen, and *where* it all went down.
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Students Editing
It has been brought to my attention that maybe my initial comments were not sufficiently clear. The issues we are facing are primarily from classes not supported by the WMF Education Program or the Education Foundation. The question is what do we as a community do to verify that students have the instructions that they need for their work on Wikipedia to be successful for all involved. James On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:05 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to clarify that I do not have any issues with the formal education program itself or with any of the individuals involved with it. I think the education program is a good idea generally. The issue I have is the current methods we are using to bring students to Wikipedia. I think we need to take a step back, return to pilots and try something different. Best James On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All We must scale back the education program working on English medical articles immediately. It is simple not working. Students are filling our medical articles with plagiarism, poorly sourced content, and duplicate content. This is not good for Wikipedia, it is not good for the students, it is not good for their Universities and it is not good for the community of Wikipedia editors. There appears to be little oversight other than the few volunteer that make up the core community of editors. It is more than we can handle. We will go the way of Google Knol if this is scaled up. I believe in the collaboration between schools and Wikipedia in theory but not like this. Evidence is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_noticeboard/Incidents#I_simply_don.27t_know -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian Clinical Professor, University of British Columbia President of Wiki Project Med Foundation The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France board handbook
Hi, and thanks for your support :) Sure Winifred, I will add a learning pattern, actually it's on my to-do list! In order to improve our sharing with the movement, we are thinking about translate some of documents we produced. Let us know if you think useful to translate the WMFr Board Handbook, even if others already exists in english. -- Emeric Vallespi Vice President Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr | Twitter: @Wikimedia_Fr emeric.valle...@wikimedia.fr mailto:emeric.valle...@wikimedia.fr | Twitter: @evallespi Le 09/12/2014 18:40, Winifred Olliff a écrit : Thanks for sharing this work, and for also sharing some of the details about how and why you made the handbook! I've also added the handbook, along with WMAT's Codex, to this list of community resources around decision-making and governance (part of the organizational effectiveness learning center for Wikimedia organizations) so other Wikimedia organizations can find it as an example if they are also thinking about creating or revising their board handbooks: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizational_effectiveness/Learning_center/Decision-making_and_governance. Please add to this list if you have other ideas about good resources in this area! Emeric, would you consider adding a learning pattern (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns) to the library on Meta about the creation of the handbook? I think all of the text you would need for a useful learning pattern is probably already included in this Email announcement ;) Thanks again for your work. Cheers, Winifred On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jean-Frédéric Berthelot jean-frederic.berthe...@wikimedia.fr mailto:jean-frederic.berthe...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Dear movement fellows, tl;dr Please find on Meta the Wikimédia France board handbook (in French) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimédia_France/Guide_du_conseil_d%27administration https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Guide_du_conseil_d%27administration https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Guide_du_conseil_d%27administration == Long story == Wikimédia France is moving forward with its continuous improvement process and wishes for an adapted governance. After revising our organizational structure [0], and putting in place the systematic evaluation of our programs [1], we do not want that governance becomes the limiting factor of our improvement. Since the hiring of our Executive Director who leads all staff, we were aware that the board tasks and processes had to evolve. That meant no more micro-management or operational stuff (except for certain board roles) and focus on strategy. To that effect, at the occasion of our previous General Assembly, the board drafted a board handbook [2], heavily inspired by the Wikimedia Foundation one (thanks for sharing!) The goal was to make sure every current member of the Board had the same vision of our governance, and to ensure that applicants for the Board have a good vision of what it means to be on the Board (expectations, posture, do's don'ts, ...) - like a shareholders' agreement. This shared version is our first iteration as we anticipate to complete, or adapt, this document according to our governance's evolution. It is relatively specific to our self-identified strengths and weaknesses. We also think that it is closely linked to our structure, our background and local context (relation with our ED, local labour law...). But despite all these specificities, we have (or will have) similar stages of development and governance issues: that's why we share with you this Handbook, with the hope that the initiative or the contents can be useful for you - even if it's in French. == Process == The handbook writing was led by Émeric Vallespi, supported by the rest of the board. It was then shared with a restricted circle where we gathered input from 6 former board members, with almost 100 comments. We then communicated the document to our members before the General Assembly, and finally published it on Meta where it joined the Austrian Kodex in [[Category:Governance]]. Sharing is caring :) [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimédia_France/Proposal_form/Organisational_structure https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Proposal_form/Organisational_structure [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimédia_France/Proposal_form/Quality_approach
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Placebook Wiki Project Proposal
If anyone is curious on how such a platform could look like, the Swedish National Heritage Board is running one. Even if it is in Swedish I guess you can get a feel for it here: http://www.platsr.se/ *Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se 0729 - 67 29 48 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2014-12-11 1:11 GMT+01:00 Joe Aeberhard joe_...@yahoo.co.uk: Thanks for your feedback Wil and glad that you like the idea. This is the link to a page giving some more detail on this proposal - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PlaceBook_Wiki Initially I was thinking that a new platform would be the way to go with this, as I had thought that the type of content being posted could be likely to contain more multimedia resources than the standard wiki postings and so was thinking about the volume of data that might need to be stored and how this could be linked in as flexible a way as possible - perhaps using a Graph database. I was also thinking that a new platform could allow us to tailor an API specifically for this using the GPS co-ordinates as the primary means of indexing information and that this could open up the data to being used in unexpected ways by other developers. However, that was before I had found out about the WikiData project, which as you suggested, could at first glance looks like it could be a good fit for adaptation for use with this proposal. I've not had a chance to study its data schemas in any depth to research its suitability in detail though, but am hoping to find time to do so soon, so any pointers about the best place to start would be gratefully received. The co-ordinates link you mentioned seems to give you geographical information about the location via a Geohack page, which is not without interest. However, it does not seem to be providing a gateway onto a richer set of resources about that specific location - so we don't seem to be able to access more narrative content with images and footage of significant events that may have occurred there or stories of those who have lived in this place. I like your thoughts about dataset mappings to jumpstart this and was thinking that the way to do this would be to team up with local historical societies to begin with to get them to take ownership of their local areas and begin to upload images and data with their commentaries and narratives. With an organisation like the Wiki Foundations backing this, it would lend a lot of credibility to the project and I'm sure this would be met with enthusiasm by professionals and amateurs alike, particularly if it was seen as a way of promoting local heritage. For instance, English Heritage already has a system of assigning blue plaques to houses of special interest in the UK and so I imagine it would be relatively easy to persuade them to link these into this kind platform, along with images of the people in question and more detail of what they did at the specific residence that was of such importance. Ideally I would hope that ordinary people accessing this information would start to realise that they could upload personal narrative and recollections to the same system, so in effect affording them an opportunity to create their own blue plaque and in so doing create a folk history of the locations in which they live. I think there is a real human need to try to leave a mark and record something of themselves within the landscape - you just need to look back at cave paintings to see that this is an ancient urge within us. This is one of the reasons I'm confident that a system similar to the one I've proposed is fairly inevitable, as it's ultimately motivated by human need but facilitated by current technology, rather than vice versa. My initial thoughts were that this natural desire could allow us to charge a small fee based on the number of megabytes posted, which could be used to guarantee the data storage for a certain number of years (or decades), as well as funding the project more widely and helping to finance the cataloguing of other items that could be of more general historical importance. Further thoughts anyone may have on this gratefully received. On Wednesday, 10 December 2014, 22:45, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: I'd like to know more about the proposal; is there a page on Meta that describes it in more detail? Specifically, I'd like to know: * You mention platform. Are you proposing a new top-level wiki project that would require critical mass to succeed? * Wouldn't this be a good fit for additions to the existing data schemas in Wikidata? Even if you have specific geo-oriented functionality in mind, it seems the current way to do this would be to build out tool on WMF Labs. * Is there a free dataset mapping events/people/places to
