Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 25/Gen/2015 12:18 Martin Kraft martin.kr...@gmx.de ha scritto: Did I miss some aspect? Is there a point in converting something visual into something visual? I have been told that people born deaf find more easy to read things in sign language. I imagine it like the difference between reading

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Gray
Max Klein and I had a chat with someone from a similar group a couple of years ago, and he reported much the same thing - the actual site structure is pretty good for screenreaders and similar software, or was in early 2013. (His main suggestion was to look into improved audio materials -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread
I have used screen readers myself, and often sit on public transport listening to reports and articles I never otherwise find the time to read through. Audio screen reader apps are increasingly useful for mobile and tablet access, it being hard work for someone who has difficulty reading the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I develop the features of MediaWiki that are tightly related to the multilingual nature of Wikimedia projects, I want to develop these features in a way that will benefit as many people and languages as (reasonably) possible, so I want to know whatever can be known about what affects the size of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Rui Correia
Hi Amir What exactly do you want from this? Is this just some personal curiosity or are you going to do someting with it? And by the way, you forgot bots - the article counts for some of the WP are driven by bots - the Dutch WP, for example. Rui 2015-01-26 4:05 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, while this proposal will not add value for the blind, most likely (they surely have their preferred solutions already), it may be useful for those who do not have time to look for audio output, but would appreciate it if it was available straightaway. I think there is some benefit in that,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
We were discussing it with an association of blind people in Poland - and they told us - that for them the most important thing is clear and logic structure of the website - plain main text, menu/navigation in plain text and descriptions of media in plain text. They are using their own free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: We were discussing it with an association of blind people in Poland - and they told us - that for them the most important thing is clear and logic structure of the website - plain main text, menu/navigation in plain text

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Il 25/Gen/2015 12:18 Martin Kraft martin.kr...@gmx.de ha scritto: Did I miss some aspect? Is there a point in converting something visual into something visual? I have been told that people born deaf find more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Listen Button

2015-01-25 Thread James Heilman
I guess I see this as making it easier for people to generate files to put on their ipod or for those with a limited ability to read who might not have figured out more complicated solutions. Those who are blind have likely already figured out good solutions. It is those of us who are sighted that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

2015-01-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
(And yes, I know that Language planning and some of the other items are not measurable as numbers. I'm throwing ideas around.) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-01-25 17:57