Hi Bishakha,

Pardon my forking the thread here.

I have previously asked about having more transparency and openness for WMF
Board meetings. From my skimming of Board minutes, it's difficult to
perceive what level of diligence is being done by the Board. I realize that
corporate notetaking practices sometimes suggest summarizing discussions in
meeting minutes as "discussion about X" rather than listing detailed
questions. I would encourage more detail and transparency about Board
deliberations, along the lines of what is being done for departmental
quarterly reviews (which I greatly appreciate).

James' and others' points about the WMF Board's role being about high-level
strategic direction are well taken. I realize that the Board has limited
capacity to manage the organization, as do all the levels of management in
the organization. Even at the strategic level, I would hope to see more
Board transparency about deliberations for major decisions, which would in
turn give everyone in this quasi-democratic movement more visibility into
the Board's thinking and more confidence (I hope) that the Board is
providing sound leadership on behalf of the community.

How to reconcile the need for more transparency with the need to have frank
discussions is a difficult question. I would suggest that the Board take a
look at our laws in Washington State regarding open meetings for
governmental organizations, and the exceptions to open meetings laws.
Overall, I think we do pretty well here at having civil, frank discussions
in public most of the time. I have a lot of faith in the goodness of
democratic processes, and I believe that a quasi-democratic system is the
only viable way for a crowdsourced project like Wikipedia to succeed and to
thrive.

I suggest that WMF Board transparency, roles and composition would be good
subjects for discussion at the upcoming Wikimedia Conference. I hope that
current serving Board members would be willing to have that discussion
there in person. I'm sure that at least a few other attendees would be
interested in participating, and it might be possible to arrange remote
participation as well via live IRC interactions similar to what is done for
WMF metrics meetings.

Thank you very much,

Pine



On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bishakha Datta <bishakhada...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm generally supportive of this legal action, but I am troubled by this
> statement:
>
> "I trust our legal team to make decisions about what legal actions to
> participate in."
>
> ...WMF needs an activist board. All of the guidance that
> I read about boards in general says that good boards do due diligance, and
> I would encourage the WMF board to be proactive and ask tough questions.
> This can be done while maintaining a positive and respectful atmosphere.
>
> Dear Pine,

As a recently-retired board member, I want to briefly chime in here.
Apologies for dragging this thread off-course from the announcement.

There seems to be an assumption that board members don't ask good questions
unless they are 'activists' - that is simply not true of any board I'm on,
and most certainly not of the WMF board. To combine this with James' email
replying to yours, 'providing oversight', 'strategic direction' and 'doing
due diligence' often means asking the right questions, including 'tough'
questions - at board meetings or via email, but not publicly.

Over the last five years, we've seen greater and greater clarity in
separating board and staff roles at the WMF - that's a good thing that most
organizations need to do as they mature, and helps both the board and the
staff do what they should be doing, instead of getting their roles mixed
up.

Best
Bishakha
Pine

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