Re: [Wikimedia-l] Innovation

2015-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Collecting hundred ideas is indeed easy.  I am sure that when I look back
in my 3000+ blog posts[1]  I will find hundreds of ideas easily. It is not
the numbers that important, it is about the relevance of the ideas, some of
mine are more relevant and others less so.

Arguments that are relevant are:

   - technical difficulty
   - impact on our community
   - impact on the amount of work it generates
   - impact on the ability to write new articles
   - impact on the ability to involve new editors
   - ability to generate meaningful statistics

The idea I proposed in this thread is likely to score really high except on
the first argument.

Would you for argument's sake walk through this idea with me and see your
process in action. The purpose would be to shine some light in the black
box. A fringe benefit could be to get a ball rolling.
Thanks,
  GerardM

[1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/

On 14 July 2015 at 21:44, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hoi,
  Luis I like what I read. What you can do to make it even more pleasing is
  establish better how this will benefit projects other than Wikipedia.
 
  For instance I blogged abut red link functionality that will easily
  enhance the quality of links and red links in most project including
  Wikipedia because it allows for providing information where there is none
  yet to bothnot readers and editors AND maintains the functionality as if
  nothing has changed.
 
  I have no idea if the WMF would consider such an idea. My impression is
  that the WMF and its agenda is very much a black box. When you explain
 how
  an idea like this might get attention, it is less theoretical and it
  explains me and others if innovation in the WMF has a place and what that
  place is.
 

 Hi, Gerard-

 Thanks for asking. I think calling us a black box on code/ideas from
 outside WMF is pretty fair, though we're working on it.

 *tl;dr:* this is and will always be hard; I'd love to hear thoughts or
 examples on how we can do it better.

 Note that I have not formally shared this thinking with
 product/engineering, so none of this is a promise to do any specific thing
 mentioned below. I share it to show, in good faith, that we're thinking
 hard about the problem and what to do about it, and to make clear why it
 isn't easy to solve.

 *Ideas*
 We can easily collect thousands of ideas. (For example, just one person
 already had a list of 200+ sorted/filed bugs ready when we announced
 community tech.) Sorting, prioritizing, and implementing them takes work
 (which
 non-programmers sometimes underestimate ;) http://xkcd.com/1425/. Some
 things we'd need in order to handle incoming ideas well:

- *Overall process/timeline* for product development, so that people
know who to talk to when and through what channels. CE is working with
product/engineering on this, but it will always be ongoing - there
 won't be
one final process, since we'll learn and adjust as we go.
- *Clear priorities* - if you have 1,000 ideas, you have to have
priorities so that you can sort through them, and decide we'll do this
 one
first because... This is hard - there are still some people who
 respond to
VE by disagreeing that we should be trying to get more new editors!
- *A friendly space
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Friendly_space
 understanding*
- people often get emotional/angry when you tell them their idea is not
 a
high priority, or hard to understand, etc. Dealing with that once is
 easy;
dealing with it repeatedly over months or years is literally
 threatening to
mental health.
- *Bodies:* Reading and processing incoming ideas can take a *ton* of
time from the people involved. Andre helps with this somewhat in his
 role
as bugmaster, but we're asking a lot from product and engineering
 already,
so there is tension between fix core platform issues and innovate
 within
WMF and listen carefully to community innovation - there are just a
limited number of hours in the day.

 We've always done parts of this informally (ideas come in through
 phabricator; I read your blog post when it was first posted via planet;
 etc.) but we need to make it more formal if we want to seriously scale it.
 We're in the *extremely* initial brainstorming phases of some of this right
 now, which Lila referred to in her email.

 *Code*
 Innovative *code *should be easier to deal with than ideas, because writing
 code is hard so there is less code than ideas. But you still have to be
 able to deal with:

- *Usability:* the innovative idea might be generally great, but has it
had evaluative design research
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Design_Research?
 A/B
testing of key concepts/language? Etc

 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Edward Galvez
Congrats!

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats and wishes.

 On 19 July 2015 at 01:50, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  Congratulations and much success!
 
 A.
 
  On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina 
 ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
  wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the
  family
   of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among their
   main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in
  education
   (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work and
  the
   use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its sister
  projects;
   edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural events, photo
 trips
   and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload images to Commons.
  
   Welcome!!
  
   1:
  
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Tito Dutta
Congrats and wishes.

On 19 July 2015 at 01:50, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Congratulations and much success!

A.

 On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the
 family
  of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among their
  main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in
 education
  (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work and
 the
  use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its sister
 projects;
  edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural events, photo trips
  and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload images to Commons.
 
  Welcome!!
 
  1:
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
  --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community UG Belarus

2015-07-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations, Belarusian colleagues!

   A.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
wrote:

 Dear all,

 It is an honour and a pleasure to announce on behalf of the Affiliations
 Committee the recognition [1] of the newest Wikimedia User Group: Wikimedia
 Community User Group Belarus. Among their objectives are to represent both
 Belarusian Wikipedias (classical and academic) in international relations;
 to widen media presence and public awareness about Belarusian Wikipedias'
 community activities; and to make collaborative projects with other
 interest groups, social initiatives, NGOs and local communities in Belarus
 and abroad.

 Please join us in welcoming a new member of the family! :-)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Katherine Maher
So great! Congratulations!

mobile.
On Jul 18, 2015 3:29 PM, Edward Galvez egal...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Congrats!

 On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote:

  Congrats and wishes.
 
  On 19 July 2015 at 01:50, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   Congratulations and much success!
  
  A.
  
   On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina 
  ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
   wrote:
  
Dear all,
   
I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the
   family
of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among
 their
main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in
   education
(at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work
 and
   the
use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its sister
   projects;
edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural events, photo
  trips
and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload images to Commons.
   
Welcome!!
   
1:
   
  
 
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Sydney Poore
Excellent news!
Sydney
On Jul 18, 2015 3:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote:

 Dear all,

 I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the family
 of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among their
 main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in education
 (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work and the
 use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its sister projects;
 edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural events, photo trips
 and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload images to Commons.

 Welcome!!

 1:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
 --
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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Carlos M. Colina

Dear all,

I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the 
family of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among 
their main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in 
education (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach 
work and the use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its 
sister projects; edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural 
events, photo trips and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload 
images to Commons.


Welcome!!

1: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015

--
*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain.

Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve http://wikimedia.org.ve

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[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community UG Belarus

2015-07-18 Thread Carlos M. Colina

Dear all,

It is an honour and a pleasure to announce on behalf of the Affiliations 
Committee the recognition [1] of the newest Wikimedia User Group: 
Wikimedia Community User Group Belarus. Among their objectives are to 
represent both Belarusian Wikipedias (classical and academic) in 
international relations; to widen media presence and public awareness 
about Belarusian Wikipedias' community activities; and to make 
collaborative projects with other interest groups, social initiatives, 
NGOs and local communities in Belarus and abroad.


Please join us in welcoming a new member of the family! :-)


1: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Belarus_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015

--
*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain.

Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Asaf Bartov
Congratulations and much success!

   A.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
wrote:

 Dear all,

 I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the family
 of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among their
 main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in education
 (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work and the
 use of social media to tell people about Wikipedia and its sister projects;
 edit-a-thons and participation in different cultural events, photo trips
 and upload-a-thons to teach users how to upload images to Commons.

 Welcome!!

 1:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group_-_Liaison_approval,_July_2015
 --
 *Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
 junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain.
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[Wikimedia-l] MediaWiki User Survey

2015-07-18 Thread Chris Koerner
Greetings,

In an effort to answer the question, “Who is using MediaWiki?” the MediaWiki
Stakeholder’s Group
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Stakeholders%27_Group organized
a survey.

We want to hear from existing MediaWiki users and ask that you complete
this short survey about your use of MediaWiki. The results of the survey
will help by providing input that should influence the future development
of MediaWiki. We also hope to grow the community of MediaWiki Users and
improve involvement.

The preliminary results of this survey was anonymized shared with the
public at the MediaWiki Stakeholder's session at Wikimania 2015
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/MediaWiki_Stakeholders%27_Meetup
and
will be posted to MediaWiki.org at a later date
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/2015_MediaWiki_User_Survey. An anonymized
data set will be available for download as well. This survey is separated
into two parts and should take about 10 minutes to complete.

To include as many MediaWiki users as possible, please help us spread this
survey far and wide. The survey will close on *Friday, July 31st*.

*Start the MediaWiki User Survey http://hexm.de/MWSurvey*

*Alternate link*
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1j2ThONROvc0bGY5d3yx4tJln4Aa2Fs130j5OlHbjW14/viewform

Sincerely,
Chris Koerner and other members of the MediaWiki Stakeholder's Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Wow,
well deserved !!
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 18 July 2015 at 23:04, Katherine Maher kma...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 So great! Congratulations!

 mobile.
 On Jul 18, 2015 3:29 PM, Edward Galvez egal...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  Congrats!
 
  On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Congrats and wishes.
  
   On 19 July 2015 at 01:50, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  
Congratulations and much success!
   
   A.
   
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Carlos M. Colina 
   ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
wrote:
   
 Dear all,

 I'm pleased to announcce the recognition [1] of a new member of the
family
 of Wikimedia affilates, the Iranian Wikimedians User Group. Among
  their
 main interests are encouraging the use of Wikimedia resources in
education
 (at cultural centres, associations and Universities), outreach work
  and
the
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 136, Issue 44

2015-07-18 Thread Mardetanha
thank you guys :)
hopefully our user group would one of the most active user groups, we have
already plan our next steps,
Mardetanha

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3. Re: Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG (Sydney Poore)
4. Re: Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG (Asaf Bartov)
5. Recognition of Wikimedia Community UG Belarus (Carlos M. Colina)
6. Re: Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG (Tito Dutta)
7. Re: Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG (Edward Galvez)


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Cc:
 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:38:30 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Innovation
 Hoi,
 Collecting hundred ideas is indeed easy.  I am sure that when I look back
 in my 3000+ blog posts[1]  I will find hundreds of ideas easily. It is not
 the numbers that important, it is about the relevance of the ideas, some of
 mine are more relevant and others less so.

 Arguments that are relevant are:

- technical difficulty
- impact on our community
- impact on the amount of work it generates
- impact on the ability to write new articles
- impact on the ability to involve new editors
- ability to generate meaningful statistics

 The idea I proposed in this thread is likely to score really high except on
 the first argument.

 Would you for argument's sake walk through this idea with me and see your
 process in action. The purpose would be to shine some light in the black
 box. A fringe benefit could be to get a ball rolling.
 Thanks,
   GerardM

 [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/

 On 14 July 2015 at 21:44, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
  gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hoi,
   Luis I like what I read. What you can do to make it even more pleasing
 is
   establish better how this will benefit projects other than Wikipedia.
  
   For instance I blogged abut red link functionality that will easily
   enhance the quality of links and red links in most project including
   Wikipedia because it allows for providing information where there is
 none
   yet to bothnot readers and editors AND maintains the functionality as
 if
   nothing has changed.
  
   I have no idea if the WMF would consider such an idea. My impression is
   that the WMF and its agenda is very much a black box. When you explain
  how
   an idea like this might get attention, it is less theoretical and it
   explains me and others if innovation in the WMF has a place and what
 that
   place is.
  
 
  Hi, Gerard-
 
  Thanks for asking. I think calling us a black box on code/ideas from
  outside WMF is pretty fair, though we're working on it.
 
  *tl;dr:* this is and will always be hard; I'd love to hear thoughts or
  examples on how we can do it better.
 
  Note that I have not formally shared this thinking with
  product/engineering, so none of this is a promise to do any specific
 thing
  mentioned below. I share it to show, in good faith, that we're thinking
  hard about the problem and what to do about it, and to make clear why it
  isn't easy to solve.
 
  *Ideas*
  We can easily collect thousands of ideas. (For example, just one person
  already had a list of 200+ sorted/filed bugs ready when we announced
  community tech.) Sorting, prioritizing, and implementing them takes work
  (which
  non-programmers sometimes underestimate ;) http://xkcd.com/1425/. Some
  things we'd need in order to handle incoming ideas well:
 
 - *Overall process/timeline* for product development, so that people
 know who to talk to when and through what channels. CE is working with
 product/engineering on this, but it will always be ongoing - there
  won't be
 one final process, since we'll learn and adjust as we go.
 - *Clear priorities* - if you have 1,000 ideas, you have to have
 priorities so that you can sort through them, and decide we'll do
 this
  one
 first because... This is hard - there are still some people who
  respond to
 VE by disagreeing that we should be trying to get more new editors!
 - *A friendly space
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Friendly_space
  

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Great news! Congratulations to Iranian UG :)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iranian Wikimedians UG

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Earley
Well done fellows!

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Great news! Congratulations to Iranian UG :)

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[Wikimedia-l] Slides from Lila's presentation at Wikimania

2015-07-18 Thread Pine W
Courtesy of WMF Comms:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2015_presentation_by_Lila_Tretikov.pdf

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