Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-28 Thread WereSpielChequers
 I don't know whether this is a mistranslation in the title thread, but if this 
wikimedian is advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and 
then suing users that would seem to me a different thing to taking images for 
himself but releasing a CC-BY-SA version on Wikimedia Commons. That wouldn't 
make any difference if he was taking photos of mountains or wildlife, but if he 
is using the foundation's name to get access to celebrities then that would be 
different. Taking photos for himself but releasing a copy on Wikimedia Commons 
under CC-BY-SA is slightly different and someone who speaks his language might 
need to suggest that to him.

I would also be interested to know whether he is suing people who are taking 
the same interpretation of the CC licenses that Wikipedia uses, or only those 
who are not following the reuse guidelines in Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons.

It isn't clear to me at present whether he is:

1 insisting on his undisputed licence rights
2 strictly enforcing licence rights which we acknowledge on at least one 
Wikimedia project and don't ourselves breach as a movement
3 enforcing licence rights which we acknowledge on at least one Wikimedia 
project but breach on another.

I and perhaps others whose German skills are like mine barely adequate to order 
a beer, would be grateful if a German speaker on this list could clarify this.

Regards

WereSpielChequers



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harald bischoff advertising to make images for the wikimedia foundation and then suing users

2015-07-28 Thread rupert THURNER
On Jul 28, 2015 9:37 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com
wrote:
 It isn't clear to me at present whether he is:

 1 insisting on his undisputed licence rights
 2 strictly enforcing licence rights which we acknowledge on at least one
Wikimedia project and don't ourselves breach as a movement
 3 enforcing licence rights which we acknowledge on at least one Wikimedia
project but breach on another.

Could you please give an example for the three, to make easier for people
not so acquainted with nuances of the English language?

Rupert
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A book on open business models by Creative Commons

2015-07-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Everton,

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 00:42:59 -0300
Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@okfn.org.br wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Creative Commons has started an interesting project proposal at
 Kickstarter, Made with Creative Commons: A book on open business models
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativecommons/made-with-creative-commons-a-book-on-open-business.
 The book will be under a license compatible with the Open Definition,
 CC-by-SA.
 

I wanted to donate to that (after being encouraged to donate by a friend who
had a birthday on Facebook), but I didn't find a way to donate using PayPal -
only directly using a credit card. As a result, I ended up donating on
creativecommons.org, but I'm not sure my donation will go to the book. I wonder
if indiegogo has the same problem as Kickstarter from this respect or if it
would have been a better choice.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK's members elect new trustees

2015-07-28 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Congratulations, yes! :-)

 From: trulyt...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 11:18:33 +0530
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 CC: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK's members elect new trustees
 
 Congratulations.
 
 On 28 July 2015 at 10:54, Hasive (Nurunnaby Chowdhury) 
 nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd wrote:
 
  Congratulations new board..
 
  -Hasive
  @nhasive
 
  --
  Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
  Wikimedia Bangladesh
  @nhasive | www.nhasive.com
  Sent from my Mobile Device
 
  On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Congrats to the new board members and thank you for serving.
  
   Pine
   On Jul 27, 2015 7:30 AM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
  
I am very pleased to announce that at our annual general meeting on
Saturday 25 July the members of Wikimedia UK elected three new trustees
   to
the board from a very strong slate of candidates.
   
Please join me in offering a very warm welcome to Doug Taylor, Nick
  Poole
and Josie Fraser.
   
Doug Taylor will be well known to many readers as a long-standing
  active
Wikimedia volunteer and Lead Trainer for WMUK. He previously served on
   the
board during 2012-13. Doug is a retired teacher and IT professional.
   
Nick Poole is the Chief Executive Officer of the Chartered Institute of
Library and Information Professionals. His previous roles include
  serving
as CEO of the Collections Trust and Chair of the Europeana Network. He
brings extensive knowledge of and influence in the international GLAM
community, and has strong connections to policymakers and funders in
  the
   UK
and Europe.
   
Josie Fraser has for the past five years worked in local government as
   the
strategic technology lead of one of the country's largest and most
accelerated school building programmes. She is an expert in the
relationship between education and technology and a vocal advocate for
   free
and open knowledge.
   
Existing trustees Greyham Dawes (treasurer) and myself (chair) were
re-elected.
   
Three trustees have stepped down from the board: Alastair McCapra, Saad
Choudri and Joseph Seddon. We thank them for their exceptional
  expertise,
commitment and diligence, and we wish them well for the future.
   
With these changes, the new board is as follows:
   
Michael Maggs (board chair, and chair of governance committee)
Simon Knight (vice chair)
Greyham Dawes (treasurer, governance committee, audit and risk
  committee)
Chris Keating (audit and risk committee)
Carol Campbell (chair of audit and risk committee)
Kate West (governance committee, audit and risk committee)
Gill Hamilton
Doug Taylor
Nick Poole
Josie Fraser
   
The new board will formally meet for the first time on Saturday 12
Septemberat the Bodleian Library, Oxford, where officer roles will be
reviewed.
   
Please join me in welcoming the new board.
   
Michael Maggs
   
Chair, Wikimedia UK
   
   
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia UK's members elect new trustees

2015-07-28 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations to the new board members.

Sydney

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 I am very pleased to announce that at our annual general meeting on
 Saturday 25 July the members of Wikimedia UK elected three new trustees to
 the board from a very strong slate of candidates.

 Please join me in offering a very warm welcome to Doug Taylor, Nick Poole
 and Josie Fraser.

 Doug Taylor will be well known to many readers as a long-standing active
 Wikimedia volunteer and Lead Trainer for WMUK. He previously served on the
 board during 2012-13. Doug is a retired teacher and IT professional.

 Nick Poole is the Chief Executive Officer of the Chartered Institute of
 Library and Information Professionals. His previous roles include serving
 as CEO of the Collections Trust and Chair of the Europeana Network. He
 brings extensive knowledge of and influence in the international GLAM
 community, and has strong connections to policymakers and funders in the UK
 and Europe.

 Josie Fraser has for the past five years worked in local government as the
 strategic technology lead of one of the country's largest and most
 accelerated school building programmes. She is an expert in the
 relationship between education and technology and a vocal advocate for free
 and open knowledge.

 Existing trustees Greyham Dawes (treasurer) and myself (chair) were
 re-elected.

 Three trustees have stepped down from the board: Alastair McCapra, Saad
 Choudri and Joseph Seddon. We thank them for their exceptional expertise,
 commitment and diligence, and we wish them well for the future.

 With these changes, the new board is as follows:

 Michael Maggs (board chair, and chair of governance committee)
 Simon Knight (vice chair)
 Greyham Dawes (treasurer, governance committee, audit and risk committee)
 Chris Keating (audit and risk committee)
 Carol Campbell (chair of audit and risk committee)
 Kate West (governance committee, audit and risk committee)
 Gill Hamilton
 Doug Taylor
 Nick Poole
 Josie Fraser

 The new board will formally meet for the first time on Saturday 12
 Septemberat the Bodleian Library, Oxford, where officer roles will be
 reviewed.

 Please join me in welcoming the new board.

 Michael Maggs

 Chair, Wikimedia UK



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-07-28 Thread Martin Kraft

Am 26.07.2015 um 19:29 schrieb James Salsman:

If Harald Bischoff has defrauded Commons reusers by requiring stricter
attribution than the community requires, does the Foundation have standing
in Germany to require him to return the money to his victims in proportion
to the extent that their attribution was improper?


Sorry guys but if I read suggestions like this, I seriously ask myself, 
if you've ever read the legal code of CC-BY-SA[1] or the the 
copyright/Urheberrecht it is based on?!


Why? Because this is legal base of HaraldBischoffs Abmahnung. So 
whoever wants to sue him for sueing somebody, should at least have some 
idea of what legal offence he should be sued for.


And wether we like what Harald does, or not: The terms and conditions of 
CC-BY-SA require the user of a CC-image to provide proper attribution. 
And from the legal point of view, it makes a big difference wether the 
attribution is on a website that is operated by the same institution 
(like Wikipedia and Commons) or on a third party website. The latter 
case definetly is no proper CC-attribution. So irrespective of how 
HaraldBischoffs reacted, the his rights where violated. And on the other 
hand I can't see a single project guideline that has been violated by 
his reaction.


So: On the grounds of the what do you want to ban or sue him???

Just to put that straight: I also don't like what he is doing. And of 
course it isn't nice, when the first reaction to a licence offence comes 
with ab bill of 900€. But based on etherything we know, he has the right 
to do so from the legal point of view.


// Martin

[1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode


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