Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Gergo Tisza]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Craig Franklin 
wrote:

> It has been my experience that site banners are the best way to reach
> casual readers who are not already integrated into the projects and
> existing communication channels.  This is why the Fundraising team run
> banners, rather than begging for money through Facebook and targeted talk
> page messages, I would imagine.  The communications channels you're
> referring to are excellent for reaching existing contributors, but when
> you're trying to reach new or casual contributors, a big banner at the top
> of articles can't be beat.
>

 My experience has been quite the opposite. The easiest, maybe, but the
conversion rate is poor - WLM is for photographers, and putting banners on
Wikipedia is not a particularly good way of reaching photographers. In WLM
Hungary a few years ago we had a deal with a photo sharing site (a crappy
deal, for other reasons), they ran the WLM banner, and it had a ten times
higher conversion rate (IIRC we counted people navigating to the upload
page as conversions). Even though they had way smaller audience than
Wikipedia, half the uploads ended up coming from them.

I would recommend organizers to be creative and not rely on CentralNotice
too much - reach out to photography discussion groups, photographer
associations, photo sharing sites and any other places where people with an
interest in taking pictures might turn up.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Michael Snow]

On 8/31/2015 12:06 PM, Luis Villa wrote:

While Philippe will be impossible to completely replace, I am excited to
share that Maggie Dennis [[User:Mdennis (WMF)]] has been promoted to
Director of Community Advocacy, effective immediately. I expect Maggie’s
amazing combination of energy, patience, and organization will make her a
great leader for the team, and that the team will continue to be a solid
source of support and communication with contributors.
There are few things that could more perfectly illustrate what Philippe 
means to the movement than asking Maggie to fill his position. Both are 
among the finest people I have had the chance to observe, work with, and 
learn from in their many years of involvement with Wikimedia. Each of 
them has seemed to me almost ubiquitous at times; and while I know the 
potential to spread oneself a little thin in doing so, they both have an 
unfailingly supportive presence and a tremendously deep understanding of 
our values. I offer them each my best wishes in their respective 
futures, both where this touches Wikimedia and where it does not.


--Michael Snow

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[Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Philippe Beaudette]

Dear friends,

Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.

But it's time for me to move on.

As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
exciting opportunities.

When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
was, she began to consider the idea.

I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.

As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
properly assigned out.

You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
any time I see you will be a celebration.

With my deepest affection,

Philippe

*Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Luis Villa]

This is the kind of email you never want to respond to, either as a manager
or as a friend. Philippe will, of course, be missed around here. I spent my
first two years here literally looking him in the eye over a cube wall
every day, and as the office’s most frequent explainer of all things wiki,
the place will not be the same without him. But I am also very glad to know
that he will be taking care of himself so that he can tackle his next
challenge from a healthy place.

While Philippe will be impossible to completely replace, I am excited to
share that Maggie Dennis [[User:Mdennis (WMF)]] has been promoted to
Director of Community Advocacy, effective immediately. I expect Maggie’s
amazing combination of energy, patience, and organization will make her a
great leader for the team, and that the team will continue to be a solid
source of support and communication with contributors.

No transition is perfectly smooth, but I expect this one should be
reasonably transparent for people outside the team: Maggie has already been
managing much of the day-to-day work of the team, and her strong
organizational and communications skills will shine through here. That
said, please have some patience with the team as they adjust to new lines
of communication and organization.

Sadly, but with good memories of the past and optimism about the future-
Luis

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
>
> But it's time for me to move on.
>
> As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
> health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
> exciting opportunities.
>
> When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
> and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
> asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
> was, she began to consider the idea.
>
> I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
> are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
> contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
> the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
> safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.
>
> As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
> 9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
> questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
> properly assigned out.
>
> You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
> any time I see you will be a celebration.
>
> With my deepest affection,
>
> Philippe
>
> *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> Foundation, Inc.
> T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Amy Vossbrinck]

ARG!!! and.  We will surely miss you Philippe!  I'll make sure,
if I stumble on to anymore exceptional peanut butter/chocolate recipes,
that they head your way post haste!

Please take very good care of your wonderful self,  Amy

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
>
> But it's time for me to move on.
>
> As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
> health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
> exciting opportunities.
>
> When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
> and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
> asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
> was, she began to consider the idea.
>
> I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
> are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
> contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
> the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
> safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.
>
> As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
> 9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
> questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
> properly assigned out.
>
> You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
> any time I see you will be a celebration.
>
> With my deepest affection,
>
> Philippe
>
> *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> Foundation, Inc.
> T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Commons

[Eduardo Testart]

Hi All,

I was reviwing this thread, and I have had several problems uploading some
files from the National Library of Chile (150 to 200 MB files). The first
problem with the chunck upload system is that it showed to me the following
error **. I entered on
preferences and turned on the option for chunk upload.

This has been (partially?) adressed in the following Phabricator thread:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/*T94562*, but I believe hasn't been fixed.

After receiving the prior error message, I opted to use the following
workaround: http://tools.wmflabs.org/url2commons/index.html, which worked
sometimes, and others, specially for the bigger files has given me the
error: *ERROR: null*

I do not know what is creating this errors (I am uploading PDF's), but it
would be really nice if someone could either check it up to see if it can
be fixed (my best guess would be that is has to do somehaow with the
Mediawiki software), or be kind to explain me which method could be another
simple and easy workaround (since I couldn't figure out how to use the
bigChunkedUpload.js).


Thanks a lot!

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Carmen Alcázar  wrote:

> Thank you for the info. I recall that I could upload files over this limit,
> but maybe I'm just confused.
> I'll do as you recommend.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
> 2015-03-18 16:37 GMT-06:00 Fæ :
>
> > 100MB is the normal maximum. If you use chunked uploading (not part of
> > the standard interface) you can upload up to 1GB.
> >
> > For an easy uploader see
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js
> >
> > You can also use the GLAMwiki toolset -
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMwiki_Toolset_Project -
> > though it is intended for larger batch uploads.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 18 March 2015 at 22:21, Carmen Alcázar  wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > > I am Wikipedian in residence and want to upload a high quality tiff
> > archive
> > > and I can't seem to upload more than 100.00 MB. I get this message:
> "You
> > > can only upload files with a size of up to 100.00 MB". What is
> happening
> > ?
> > > Do you know what I can do?
> > >
> > > --
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> público.
> > > Es como un templo para el pensamiento. Un lugar al que todos podemos
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> > >
> > >
> > > Carmen Alcázar (@metik)
> > > Secretaria, Wikimedia  México
> A.C.
> > > Coordinadora Hospitalidad Wikimanía
> > > 2015 (@Wikimanía2015)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Pine W]

Thank you, Philippe.

Speaking of courage, I admire your ability to persevere through thick and
thin, 24/7, and your going above and beyond the call of duty on more than
one occasion.

I hope that your rest is restorative.

Wikimedia is better, stronger, safer, and more resilient because of your
work here.

Gratefully,

Pine


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
>
> But it's time for me to move on.
>
> As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
> health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
> exciting opportunities.
>
> When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
> and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
> asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
> was, she began to consider the idea.
>
> I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
> are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
> contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
> the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
> safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.
>
> As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
> 9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
> questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
> properly assigned out.
>
> You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
> any time I see you will be a celebration.
>
> With my deepest affection,
>
> Philippe
>
> *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> Foundation, Inc.
> T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[John Lewis]

It is really sad to see you leave, but your health must be your priority,
and not the community as it has been for the past six years. Everything you
have done was always in the best interests of the wider community and that
will never be forgotten.

You've always worked on opening new doors for people and have entrusted
responsibilities into others as well for the greater benefit of the
community. You're leaving the best legacy possible - even if we ignore the
six years :)

Good luck in future opportunities and your health. No one is more deserving
of a rest than yourself!

And congratulations to Maggie - while she is not Philippe, she definitely
will do her best to be the new Philippe.

Regards,
John Lewis
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[Nathan]

Very sorry to hear that, Philippe. From the perspective of an outsider to
the WMF and many of the "interior processes" of the Wikimedia community,
you have always been a ray of light and a source of insight, knowledge and
order. Your presence in a discussion, debate or process has always elevated
each and inspired trust where there might otherwise have been none. We will
all be sad to see you go but also hopeful that the time will be restful and
healing before you bring the same qualities to your next role.

It's great to see, however, that Moonriddengirl, our faithful copyright
legal eagle and tireless contributor, will be formally assuming such an
important role. I'm sure she will make Philippe, Luis and us plebes equally
proud.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Commons

[Brad Jorsch (Anomie)]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Eduardo Testart  wrote:

> I do not know what is creating this errors (I am uploading PDF's), but it
> would be really nice if someone could either check it up to see if it can
> be fixed


Step 1 would be for you to report the entire error message you're
receiving. In particular, the error message will begin with something like
"[0badf00d] Exception Caught:", that and the date and time you received the
error will allow people with access to the logs to look up details on the
error.

For the "url2commons" tool, you'd do best to talk with the maintainer of
that tool.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Commons

[Eduardo Testart]

Brad,

The error is just a message in the fourth step of uploading in the Upload
Wizard, I do not know how to get  alog from it. As described
 by waldyrious before me:

*I got the same error as @Hansmuller describes above, i.e. the upload went
well till the end, I progressed to the step of filling in the metadata info
(description, license, categories, etc) and at the final step (publishing),
I got the *
An image of the error can be found here /same than me):
https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/mv7jdnjrux637yiwtskr/PHID-FILE-fqoayfep3fb62d2bs5gr/42moazu5vwnknzo6/UW_error.png

So, I do not know how to provide a log for you. What should I do?


Best!

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Eduardo Testart 
> wrote:
>
> > I do not know what is creating this errors (I am uploading PDF's), but it
> > would be really nice if someone could either check it up to see if it can
> > be fixed
>
>
> Step 1 would be for you to report the entire error message you're
> receiving. In particular, the error message will begin with something like
> "[0badf00d] Exception Caught:", that and the date and time you received the
> error will allow people with access to the logs to look up details on the
> error.
>
> For the "url2commons" tool, you'd do best to talk with the maintainer of
> that tool.
>
>
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[Steven Zhang]

Philippe,

I feel honoured to have known you these last few years. I will sorely miss you 
around here, and I wish you all the best with everything.

Steven Crossin (Zhang)

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> On 1 Sep 2015, at 5:01 AM, Philippe Beaudette  wrote:
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
> 
> But it's time for me to move on.
> 
> As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
> health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
> exciting opportunities.
> 
> When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
> and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
> asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
> was, she began to consider the idea.
> 
> I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
> are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
> contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
> the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
> safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.
> 
> As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
> 9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
> questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
> properly assigned out.
> 
> You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
> any time I see you will be a celebration.
> 
> With my deepest affection,
> 
> Philippe
> 
> *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
> Foundation, Inc.
> T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Kevin Gorman]

Congratulations to Maggie, and I'm sure she'll do a great job... but
Phillippe, I'm deeply sorry to see you go.  Out of everyone I've ever
met, you have to be nearly the closest (if not the actual closest)
thing that exists to a living repository of Wikimedia's history (and
connections.)  I don't WMF can ever have another Philippe, and we will
certainly not benefit from losing  you.  The movement as a whole has
greatly benefitted from your passions and most of us have litttle idea
how much critically important stuff you have handled behind the
curtain that has allowed the projects to keep functioning.  (I mean,
I'm sure I only know the tiniest fraction of it but Is till know
enough to know that your actions and passion greatly - almost
incalculaby greatly - contributed, oft invisibly, to the success of
the mvovement,)

Still though...as I've learned myself in the past year, health has to
come first.  I wish you the best of luck, and hope our paths cross
again.

Best,
Kevin Gorman

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steven Zhang  wrote:
> Philippe,
>
> I feel honoured to have known you these last few years. I will sorely miss 
> you around here, and I wish you all the best with everything.
>
> Steven Crossin (Zhang)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Sep 2015, at 5:01 AM, Philippe Beaudette  wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Six years is a long time.  Over the last six years, I've been privileged to
>> be a part of so many things with you.  And I'm proud of what we've done
>> together.  For the last six years, I've been a part of things that will
>> excite me until the day that I die - the things that, together, we did in
>> service of that phrase - "the sum of human knowledge" - were magical.  I'll
>> never forget them, and I've been honored to be a part of this movement.
>>
>> But it's time for me to move on.
>>
>> As many of you know, for the last couple of years, I've struggled with my
>> health.  I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
>> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
>> exciting opportunities.
>>
>> When Sue left, she said that her decision process included looking around
>> and taking stock of the people and the condition of the Foundation, and
>> asking herself "Is it safe? If I leave, is it safe?" and when she knew it
>> was, she began to consider the idea.
>>
>> I've been doing the same, obviously focused on projects and programs that
>> are important to me.  And I look around and I know that with the
>> contributors that we have - brilliant, dedicated, passionate people and
>> the staff that we have - dynamic, talented, devoted, and fearless it's
>> safe.  So it's time for me to move on, and to leave it to them.
>>
>> As a housekeeping note:  I've agreed with Luis that I'll be available until
>> 9/15, though I'll be out on medical leave, so may be slow to answer
>> questions.  If I owe you something, please remind me so that we can get it
>> properly assigned out.
>>
>> You can all reach out to me at any time... phili...@beaudette.me and
>> any time I see you will be a celebration.
>>
>> With my deepest affection,
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> *Philippe Beaudette * \\  Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
>> Foundation, Inc.
>> T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 |  phili...@wikimedia.org  |  :  @Philippewiki
>> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement

[Marc A. Pelletier]

On 15-08-31 03:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> I've come to the unpleasant realization that for my own good, I
> need to step back and focus on healing, and then look around for new and
> exciting opportunities.

Godspeed, Philippe.  I've known you for all of those six years, and I
can tell you without hesitation that you have left a lasting positive
mark on the Foundation and community both.

Be certain to give us news one you are well!

-- Marc


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[Wikimedia-l] Open call for Individual Engagement Grant proposals

[Chris Schilling]

Hi everyone,

This is Chris Schilling (User:I JethroBT).  The Wikimedia Foundation
Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals for
funding new experiments from August 31st to September 29th.  <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG>  As a former grantee in
developing the Co-op mentorship space, I encourage you to explore IEG as a
way to realize your idea for improving Wikimedia projects. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Reimagining_Wikipedia_Mentorship>

Your idea could involve building new tools or software, organizing a better
process on your wiki, conducting research to investigate an important
issue, or providing other support for community-building.Whether you need a
small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD) Individual Engagement
Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition
to other expenses like travel, materials, and rental space. Project
schedules and reporting are flexible for grantees, and staff are available
on Meta to support you through all stages of your project.

Do you have have an idea, but would like some feedback before applying?
Put it into the IdeaLab, where volunteers and staff can give you advice and
guidance on how to bring it to life.  <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab>  Once your idea is ready,
it can be easily migrated into a grant request.  IEG Program Officer Marti
Johnson and I will also be hosting several Hangouts for real-time
discussions to answer questions and help you make your proposal better -
the first will happen on September 8th. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Events#Upcoming_events>
 Please feel free to get in touch with Marti (mjohn...@wikimedia.org) or me
with questions about getting started with your idea.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and
make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects.  Put your idea into
motion, and submit your proposal this September! <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-apply>


With thanks,


Chris

-- 
Chris "Jethro" Schilling
I JethroBT (WMF) 
Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Commons

[Eduardo Testart]

Brad,

Reported as bets as I could on:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94562


Best!

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Eduardo Testart  wrote:

> Brad,
>
> The error is just a message in the fourth step of uploading in the Upload
> Wizard, I do not know how to get  alog from it. As described
>  by waldyrious before me:
>
> *I got the same error as @Hansmuller describes above, i.e. the upload went
> well till the end, I progressed to the step of filling in the metadata info
> (description, license, categories, etc) and at the final step (publishing),
> I got the *
> An image of the error can be found here /same than me):
>
> https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/mv7jdnjrux637yiwtskr/PHID-FILE-fqoayfep3fb62d2bs5gr/42moazu5vwnknzo6/UW_error.png
>
> So, I do not know how to provide a log for you. What should I do?
>
>
> Best!
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <
> bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Eduardo Testart 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I do not know what is creating this errors (I am uploading PDF's), but
>> it
>> > would be really nice if someone could either check it up to see if it
>> can
>> > be fixed
>>
>>
>> Step 1 would be for you to report the entire error message you're
>> receiving. In particular, the error message will begin with something like
>> "[0badf00d] Exception Caught:", that and the date and time you received
>> the
>> error will allow people with access to the logs to look up details on the
>> error.
>>
>> For the "url2commons" tool, you'd do best to talk with the maintainer of
>> that tool.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
>> Senior Software Engineer
>> Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Asaf Bartov]

Thanks for the excellent questions, everyone.  To preserve the answers and
increase this conversation's visibility, I have BOLDly pasted the questions
on the CCD's talk page[1], and have answered there.  I invite you all to
continue the conversation there.

Cheers,

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Capacity_Development

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Anne-Laure Prévost <
annelaure.prev...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Hi Asaf,
>
> Thank you for sharing these news! I think building capacities is key for
> our movement and the way this initiative is presented seems to me very
> relevant and useful.
>
> I am wondering to what extent / how this articulates :
> - with the programme and work done at Wikimedia Conference this year, where
> most of these topics where covered
> - with the follow-up day of WMCON at Wikimania in Mexico where some
> sessions where dedicated to these topics
> - with the work done by several subcommunities (such as the Volunteer
> Support Network, for instance, who - I guess - is dealing with most of
> these issues)
>
> Do you plan to map and embark the several existing initiatives around these
> topics across our movement, to build on what's already existing, and how?
> Do you plan to have one contact point per topic at WMF to make co-creation
> and cooperation as efficient as possible?
> What is the actual target group of the initiative? Only "Emerging
> Communities" or also already "emerged" communities?
>
> It seems to me that there are parallel actions aiming at the same goal
> here, and it would be great to see them dialogue, converge or even merge
> rather than dissipating our efforts on such important matters. What do you
> think ?
>
> Thanks a lot for your answers,
>
> Have a great week,
>
> Anne-Laure
>
> *Anne-Laure Prévost*
> CONSEILLÈRE SPÉCIALE PARTENARIATS ET RELATIONS INSTITUTIONNELLES /
> SPECIAL ADVISOR PARTNERSHIPS & INSTITUTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS
>
> *Tél  +33 7 62 93 42 02 /* *+33 1 42 36 97 72*
> *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> *40 rue de Cléry, 75002 Paris*  >
>
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:40:25 -0700
> From: Asaf Bartov 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New WMF initiative: Community Capacity
> Development
> Message-ID:
> <
> caamrcwftycuv2mf6es0yjdghcxyzhnvbbn5xdx8iwejencq...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> {{Nutshell|WMF Community Engagement Team is allocating staff time and
> funding to deliberate capacity-development projects with interested
> communities in six capacity areas: community governance; conflict
> management; on-wiki technical skills; new contributor engagement and
> growth; partnerships; communications}}
>
> ==Details==
> This is a new way of partnering with WMF: through two way conversations
> (rather than top-down planning), WMF will work with specific emerging
> communities to explore obstacles for community growth and explore and pilot
> solutions together.
>
> The first phase of this work consisted of a series of in-depth interviews
> with individuals from 16 specific emerging communities to gather
> information about existing and missing capacities.  Reviewing those
> interviews in aggregate, we came up with six capacities it seems useful to
> work together on.
>
> We prepared a page per such capacity, detailing challenges and possible
> approaches to build that capacity. We welcome your  feedback! Contributions
> to those pages can be done in the following ways:
>
> * Sign up on the sidebar of each capacity subpage if you want to implement
> certain practices described,
> * Provide more links to resources,
> * Expand the Potential Solutions section with new ideas.
>
> These pages, including your contributions, will serve as the basis for
> specific conversations with specific communities to develop plans or
> projects to build capacity.
>
> During this initial pilot period, we intend to pursue projects in two or
> three capacities at most, which will be chosen according to community
> interest, scale of community, and scale of readership.  We expect some of
> the specific actions we take in these projects would create resources
> [re-]usable by other communities as well.
>
> ==Join the Conversation==
> We invite you all to read through the capacity pages, and specifically, to
> see if the challenges described resonate with you and your community.  If
> they do, have an on-wiki discussion about it with your community, and if
> there's general interest, sign up on the capacity pages and we'll have a
> conversation about what might be some possible next steps.
>
> Find the six capacity pages on Meta, here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development
>
> Looking forward to fruitful engagement,
>
>Asaf Bartov
>Sati Houston
>Community Engagement department
> --
> Asaf Bartov
> 

[Wikimedia-l] Re : New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

[Anne-Laure Prévost]

Hi Asaf,

Thank you for sharing these news! I think building capacities is key for
our movement and the way this initiative is presented seems to me very
relevant and useful.

I am wondering to what extent / how this articulates :
- with the programme and work done at Wikimedia Conference this year, where
most of these topics where covered
- with the follow-up day of WMCON at Wikimania in Mexico where some
sessions where dedicated to these topics
- with the work done by several subcommunities (such as the Volunteer
Support Network, for instance, who - I guess - is dealing with most of
these issues)

Do you plan to map and embark the several existing initiatives around these
topics across our movement, to build on what's already existing, and how?
Do you plan to have one contact point per topic at WMF to make co-creation
and cooperation as efficient as possible?
What is the actual target group of the initiative? Only "Emerging
Communities" or also already "emerged" communities?

It seems to me that there are parallel actions aiming at the same goal
here, and it would be great to see them dialogue, converge or even merge
rather than dissipating our efforts on such important matters. What do you
think ?

Thanks a lot for your answers,

Have a great week,

Anne-Laure

*Anne-Laure Prévost*
CONSEILLÈRE SPÉCIALE PARTENARIATS ET RELATIONS INSTITUTIONNELLES /
SPECIAL ADVISOR PARTNERSHIPS & INSTITUTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS

*Tél  +33 7 62 93 42 02 /* *+33 1 42 36 97 72*
*www.wikimedia.fr  *
*40 rue de Cléry, 75002 Paris* 


Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:40:25 -0700
From: Asaf Bartov 
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New WMF initiative: Community Capacity
Development
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Dear Wikimedians,

{{Nutshell|WMF Community Engagement Team is allocating staff time and
funding to deliberate capacity-development projects with interested
communities in six capacity areas: community governance; conflict
management; on-wiki technical skills; new contributor engagement and
growth; partnerships; communications}}

==Details==
This is a new way of partnering with WMF: through two way conversations
(rather than top-down planning), WMF will work with specific emerging
communities to explore obstacles for community growth and explore and pilot
solutions together.

The first phase of this work consisted of a series of in-depth interviews
with individuals from 16 specific emerging communities to gather
information about existing and missing capacities.  Reviewing those
interviews in aggregate, we came up with six capacities it seems useful to
work together on.

We prepared a page per such capacity, detailing challenges and possible
approaches to build that capacity. We welcome your  feedback! Contributions
to those pages can be done in the following ways:

* Sign up on the sidebar of each capacity subpage if you want to implement
certain practices described,
* Provide more links to resources,
* Expand the Potential Solutions section with new ideas.

These pages, including your contributions, will serve as the basis for
specific conversations with specific communities to develop plans or
projects to build capacity.

During this initial pilot period, we intend to pursue projects in two or
three capacities at most, which will be chosen according to community
interest, scale of community, and scale of readership.  We expect some of
the specific actions we take in these projects would create resources
[re-]usable by other communities as well.

==Join the Conversation==
We invite you all to read through the capacity pages, and specifically, to
see if the challenges described resonate with you and your community.  If
they do, have an on-wiki discussion about it with your community, and if
there's general interest, sign up on the capacity pages and we'll have a
conversation about what might be some possible next steps.

Find the six capacity pages on Meta, here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development

Looking forward to fruitful engagement,

   Asaf Bartov
   Sati Houston
   Community Engagement department
--
Asaf Bartov
Wikimedia Foundation 

Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
https://donate.wikimedia.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Peter Southwood]

Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no 
relevance...
Cheers,
P

-Original Message-
From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy 
largely blocked by WMF fundraising

Hello everybody.
I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to run the 
Fundraising banner in Italy during September.

In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board worked hard 
together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we continued a 
very honest and direct conversation.
I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.

I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they will 
not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it welcomed with 
the respect it deserves.

Best regards

Andrea


On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki < 
steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote:

> Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
>
> So we can see what the community thinks about this.
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
>
> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
> > From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
> wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves 
> > Monuments
> in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that 
> > it is time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
> situation. I
> > have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments 
> > organising teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments 
> > in September,
> and
> > the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in 
> > September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the
> Wikimedia
> > movement?
> >
> > To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this 
> > situation, I have set up this Request for Comment:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> >
> > Romaine
> >
> > 2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki :
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > New update:
> > >
> > > The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it
> resulted
> > > in:
> > > * Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we 
> > > will have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
> > > * WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main 
> > > Page of Wikipedia
> > > * WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
> > > * WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
> > > * WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social
> media
> > > fire
> > >
> > > They made clear this won't happen again.
> > >
> > > To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen 
> > > again,
> what
> > > we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that 
> > > the
> amount
> > > of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of 
> > > the
> time.
> > >
> > > The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes. 
> > > Wiki
> Loves
> > > Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most
> visitors to
> > > Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a
> small
> > > link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I 
> > > do
> not
> > > believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work. 
> > > A blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the 
> > > largest project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not 
> > > reach to the
> core
> > > people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire, 
> > > I
> have
> > > no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the 
> > > core infrastructure is not under control by WMF.
> > >
> > > And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the 
> > > fundraising banner to a month later...
> > >
> > > I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch: 
> > > afgescheept worden (literally: being shipped of).
> > >
> > > At such having a blocking banner is sad news. A competition is 
> > > large ruined by it.
> > >
> > > What I consider the most demotivating is the play the fundraising 
> > > team
> of
> > > WMF has played. I certainly do not consider it fair play. Too many
> empty
> > > promises, dividing the community to get less resistance, no fair 
> > > negotiations, usage of the inexperience of volunteers, and more.
> > >
> > > And even after 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Megan Hernandez]

Below is a message that Andrea Zanni, President of Wikimedia Italia, and I
have written together.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. We would like to fill you
in on the background work and conversations between Wikimedia Italia and
WMF.

There was a scheduling problem to solve between two very important
campaigns for the movement. Wiki Loves Monuments is a major contribution
campaign and annual effort.  Fundraising campaigns fund the movement and
the team has a difficult goal this year with quarterly targets to meet.
Direct communication was needed to work through the issue.

WMIT and WMF have been talking through the situation and many possible
solutions over the past few weeks. Through very honest and respectful phone
and email conversations, we were able to reach a mutual understanding of
the issue and decided to move the fundraising campaign after Wiki Loves
Monuments. We reached this agreement over the weekend (actually several
hours before the RfC was posted online), but an immediate reply was not
sent because we wanted to coordinate an update to the list. Weekend
coordination is tricky, which is why this email is being sent on Monday.

Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
September target.

Wikimedia Italia and the WMF fundraising team have collaborated in the past
on several projects (chapter banner and email campaigns as well as
fundraising campaigns). We are currently working together on ways to get
more contributors to WLM in Italy this year and on the upcoming fundraiser.
We’ll work on communication and will share mutual expertise. We look
forward to continuing to grow the relationship and working more closely
going forward.

It’s clear we need a better process to coordinate campaigns. We are a vast
and complex movement, so communication is key. Together with the Community
Engagement team, we are thinking of ways to improve and we appreciate your
effort toward this improvement. Reasonable and respectful communication is
how we were able to reach a solution, we need to build from this going
forward.

Thank you to everyone who provided constructive ideas to help solve the
problem. Best of luck to all the WLM campaigns that launch tomorrow! Thank
you for all your work on WLM, we’re all looking forward to seeing the new
contributions this year.


Megan Hernandez and Andrea Zanni

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no
> relevance...
> Cheers,
> P
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
> Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
>
> Hello everybody.
> I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to run
> the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
>
> In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board worked
> hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
>
> I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> welcomed with the respect it deserves.
>
> Best regards
>
> Andrea
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki <
> steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
> >
> > So we can see what the community thinks about this.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> > r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
> > > From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
> > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
> > wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
> > > Monuments
> > in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that
> > > it is time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
> > situation. I
> > > have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > organising teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > in September,
> > and
> > > the WMF Fundraising team who likes 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Pine W]

It would be interesting to contact DPReview and Flickr to ask if they'd
agree to promote this campaign.

Pine
On Aug 31, 2015 12:36 AM, "Gergo Tisza"  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Craig Franklin  >
> wrote:
>
> > It has been my experience that site banners are the best way to reach
> > casual readers who are not already integrated into the projects and
> > existing communication channels.  This is why the Fundraising team run
> > banners, rather than begging for money through Facebook and targeted talk
> > page messages, I would imagine.  The communications channels you're
> > referring to are excellent for reaching existing contributors, but when
> > you're trying to reach new or casual contributors, a big banner at the
> top
> > of articles can't be beat.
> >
>
>  My experience has been quite the opposite. The easiest, maybe, but the
> conversion rate is poor - WLM is for photographers, and putting banners on
> Wikipedia is not a particularly good way of reaching photographers. In WLM
> Hungary a few years ago we had a deal with a photo sharing site (a crappy
> deal, for other reasons), they ran the WLM banner, and it had a ten times
> higher conversion rate (IIRC we counted people navigating to the upload
> page as conversions). Even though they had way smaller audience than
> Wikipedia, half the uploads ended up coming from them.
>
> I would recommend organizers to be creative and not rely on CentralNotice
> too much - reach out to photography discussion groups, photographer
> associations, photo sharing sites and any other places where people with an
> interest in taking pictures might turn up.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Steinsplitter Wiki]

WMF has a loot of money, i am not sure if the goal of this time is really 
needed.

> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:53:21 -0700
> From: wiki.p...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; andrea.za...@wikimedia.it; 
> lvi...@wikimedia.org; lgruw...@wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in 
> Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> 
> Thank you, Andrea, Romaine, Lisa, and Luis.
> 
> Lisa, if you're interested, I'm happy to brainstorm with you off-list about
> some alternatives to help WMF Fundraising meet its goals.
> 
> Pine
> On Aug 30, 2015 1:21 PM, "Andrea Zanni"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello everybody.
> > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to run
> > the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
> >
> > In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board worked
> > hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> > continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> > I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
> >
> > I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> > will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> > welcomed with the respect it deserves.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki <
> > steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
> > >
> > > So we can see what the community thinks about this.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
> > > > From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
> > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
> > > wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
> > > in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Having spoken with some people, I have come to the conclusion that it
> > is
> > > > time to ask the Wikimedia community what they think about this
> > > situation. I
> > > > have especially seen both parties, the Wiki Loves Monuments organising
> > > > teams who like to have a banner for Wiki Loves Monuments in September,
> > > and
> > > > the WMF Fundraising team who likes to have a fundraising banner in
> > > > September. Then the question remains: what has more value for the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > movement?
> > > >
> > > > To find out what the Wikimedia community thinks about this situation, I
> > > > have set up this Request for Comment:
> > > >
> > >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banner_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> > > >
> > > > Romaine
> > > >
> > > > 2015-08-30 15:35 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > New update:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Italian team had some calls with the fundraising team and it
> > > resulted
> > > > > in:
> > > > > * Wiki Loves Monuments gets the whole 4th week of September. So we
> > will
> > > > > have the WLM banner alone the first and the last week.
> > > > > * WLM IT is discussing with the community a message in the Main Page
> > of
> > > > > Wikipedia
> > > > > * WMF will try to put a link to WLM in the banner
> > > > > * WMF will put a link to WLM in the Thank You letter for donors.
> > > > > * WMF is helping WLM Italy with a blogpost in the blog, and social
> > > media
> > > > > fire
> > > > >
> > > > > They made clear this won't happen again.
> > > > >
> > > > > To me, the only improvements is their promise it won't happen again,
> > > what
> > > > > we certainly keep them having their promise in future, and that the
> > > amount
> > > > > of time the Wiki Loves Monuments banner is shown will be 50% of the
> > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest of the outcomes is lousy and they sold us empty boxes. Wiki
> > > Loves
> > > > > Monuments depends for about 99% on a CentralNotice banner. Most
> > > visitors to
> > > > > Wikipedia do not visit the main page of a wiki. I do not believe a
> > > small
> > > > > link to WLM in a large fundraising banner would help or is seen. I do
> > > not
> > > > > believe that a link in the Thank You letter for donors would work. A
> > > > > blogpost will be written anyway, as Wiki Loves Monuments is the
> > largest
> > > > > project of the Wikimedia movement, but still it would not reach to
> > the
> > > core
> > > > > people Wiki Loves Monuments is aiming at. And a social media fire, I
> > > have
> > > > > no believe in it that WMF would have any control in such and the core
> > > > > infrastructure is not under control by WMF.
> > > > >
> > > > > And still no explanation why it is not possible to move the
> > fundraising
> > > > > banner to a month later...
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only conclude that we have been put off, in Dutch: 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland]

Congratulations on reaching agreement - to all parties concerned.
I understand that is has not been easy, so well done!

Sandra Rientjes
Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland

tel.(+31) (0)30 3200238
mob. (+31) (0)6  31786379

www.wikimedia.nl

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2015-08-31 15:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni :

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>
> > Unless "just" meant something like "five hours" ago, Andrea at least only
> > seems to have learned of this agreement *after* the RfC launched.
> >
>
> Yes, it was meant as "a few hours ago".
> I received the mail from Lisa's before the Romaine sent his mail about the
> RfC.
> We just did not announce it immediately (it was Sunday, and we are in
> diferent time zones, so communication is not really easy).
> Mind you that we spoke the whole week and also the weekend, this is not a
> decision that
> the WMF has taken lightly.
> I'd like to look at it as a good example of creation of consent (which
> takes a lot of time and negotiation, as we all know).
>
> Cheers
>
> Aubrey
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Megan Hernandez 
wrote:

> Below is a message that Andrea Zanni, President of Wikimedia Italia, and I
> have written together.
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. We would like to fill you
> in on the background work and conversations between Wikimedia Italia and
> WMF.
>
> There was a scheduling problem to solve between two very important
> campaigns for the movement. Wiki Loves Monuments is a major contribution
> campaign and annual effort.  Fundraising campaigns fund the movement and
> the team has a difficult goal this year with quarterly targets to meet.
> Direct communication was needed to work through the issue.
>
> WMIT and WMF have been talking through the situation and many possible
> solutions over the past few weeks. Through very honest and respectful phone
> and email conversations, we were able to reach a mutual understanding of
> the issue and decided to move the fundraising campaign after Wiki Loves
> Monuments. We reached this agreement over the weekend (actually several
> hours before the RfC was posted online), but an immediate reply was not
> sent because we wanted to coordinate an update to the list. Weekend
> coordination is tricky, which is why this email is being sent on Monday.
>



Sorry to be a pain about this, but I'm puzzled.

Andrea wrote here on this list, four hours and fifteen minutes after the
RfC started,

"I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all".

Unless "just" meant something like "five hours" ago, Andrea at least only
seems to have learned of this agreement *after* the RfC launched.

Andreas



On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Andrea Zanni 
 wrote:

> Hello everybody.
> I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to run
> the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
>
> In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board worked
> hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.





>
> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
> least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
> will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
> to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
> September target.
>
> Wikimedia Italia and the WMF fundraising team have collaborated in the past
> on several projects (chapter banner and email campaigns as well as
> fundraising campaigns). We are currently working together on ways to get
> more contributors to WLM in Italy this year and on the upcoming fundraiser.
> We’ll work on communication and will share mutual expertise. We look
> forward to continuing to grow the relationship and working more closely
> going forward.
>
> It’s clear we need a better process to coordinate campaigns. We are a vast
> and complex movement, so communication is key. Together with the Community
> Engagement team, we are thinking of ways to improve and we appreciate your
> effort toward this improvement. Reasonable and respectful communication is
> how we were able to reach a solution, we need to build from this going
> forward.
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided constructive ideas to help solve the
> problem. Best of luck to all the WLM campaigns that launch tomorrow! Thank
> you for all your work on WLM, we’re all looking forward to seeing the new
> contributions this year.
>
>
> Megan Hernandez and Andrea Zanni
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no
> > relevance...
> > Cheers,
> > P
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> > Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Hello everybody.
> > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to
> run
> > the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
> >
> > In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board
> worked
> > hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> > continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> > I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
> >
> > I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> > will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Andrea Zanni]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Unless "just" meant something like "five hours" ago, Andrea at least only
> seems to have learned of this agreement *after* the RfC launched.
>

Yes, it was meant as "a few hours ago".
I received the mail from Lisa's before the Romaine sent his mail about the
RfC.
We just did not announce it immediately (it was Sunday, and we are in
diferent time zones, so communication is not really easy).
Mind you that we spoke the whole week and also the weekend, this is not a
decision that
the WMF has taken lightly.
I'd like to look at it as a good example of creation of consent (which
takes a lot of time and negotiation, as we all know).

Cheers

Aubrey
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[Romaine Wiki]

Hello Megan & Andrea,

Thank you for the message and the hard work done!

Greetings,
Romaine


international organiser of Wiki Loves Monuments

2015-08-31 13:02 GMT+02:00 Megan Hernandez :

> Below is a message that Andrea Zanni, President of Wikimedia Italia, and I
> have written together.
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. We would like to fill you
> in on the background work and conversations between Wikimedia Italia and
> WMF.
>
> There was a scheduling problem to solve between two very important
> campaigns for the movement. Wiki Loves Monuments is a major contribution
> campaign and annual effort.  Fundraising campaigns fund the movement and
> the team has a difficult goal this year with quarterly targets to meet.
> Direct communication was needed to work through the issue.
>
> WMIT and WMF have been talking through the situation and many possible
> solutions over the past few weeks. Through very honest and respectful phone
> and email conversations, we were able to reach a mutual understanding of
> the issue and decided to move the fundraising campaign after Wiki Loves
> Monuments. We reached this agreement over the weekend (actually several
> hours before the RfC was posted online), but an immediate reply was not
> sent because we wanted to coordinate an update to the list. Weekend
> coordination is tricky, which is why this email is being sent on Monday.
>
> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
> least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
> will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
> to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
> September target.
>
> Wikimedia Italia and the WMF fundraising team have collaborated in the past
> on several projects (chapter banner and email campaigns as well as
> fundraising campaigns). We are currently working together on ways to get
> more contributors to WLM in Italy this year and on the upcoming fundraiser.
> We’ll work on communication and will share mutual expertise. We look
> forward to continuing to grow the relationship and working more closely
> going forward.
>
> It’s clear we need a better process to coordinate campaigns. We are a vast
> and complex movement, so communication is key. Together with the Community
> Engagement team, we are thinking of ways to improve and we appreciate your
> effort toward this improvement. Reasonable and respectful communication is
> how we were able to reach a solution, we need to build from this going
> forward.
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided constructive ideas to help solve the
> problem. Best of luck to all the WLM campaigns that launch tomorrow! Thank
> you for all your work on WLM, we’re all looking forward to seeing the new
> contributions this year.
>
>
> Megan Hernandez and Andrea Zanni
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no
> > relevance...
> > Cheers,
> > P
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> > Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Hello everybody.
> > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to
> run
> > the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
> >
> > In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board
> worked
> > hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> > continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> > I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
> >
> > I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> > will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> > welcomed with the respect it deserves.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki <
> > steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Romaine for setting up the RFC on meta [1]!
> > >
> > > So we can see what the community thinks about this.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Fundraising_banne
> > > r_or_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_banner
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:04:41 +0200
> > > > From: romaine.w...@gmail.com
> > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;
> > > wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
> > > > Monuments
> > > in Italy largely