One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a near miss
incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal incident would be
investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is due, but so that the same
situation can be avoided in the future. Organisations that fail
I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising
targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a
deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think that
someone suggested setting up a
I was referring to the fundraising targets, which have been cited as a cause of
the dispute. WMIT/WLM have explained at length their reasons for needing
banners in September. I am in no position to comment on whether their analysis
is correct or not . Fundraising has not been so forthcoming in
Thanks to the 100+ people who have shared feedback via the survey and talk
page discussion so far!
Reminder: The consultation period closes on 8 September 0:00 UTC.
This is the last weekend to add your thoughts to the conversation before we
begin to analyze all feedback and plan next
Thanks for that perspective Amir. I hadn't even thought of the mobile
aspect. It would be great to have improved collaboration tools for working
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> 2015-09-02 3:15 GMT+03:00 MZMcBride
2015-09-02 3:15 GMT+03:00 MZMcBride :
> What I'm struggling with here is that Flow seems to have failed to
> deliver. It hasn't met its goals of covering even basic talk pages and it
> sounds as though further development work on Flow will now be suspended.
> From my
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
>>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You can
>>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working for
>>many months already. This is my definition of
First, thanks to all of those who worked in good faith, with patience and
care for each other to solve this problem. I appreciate the level of
compromise and empathy that was required from teams at WMIL and WMF. Thank
Second, I want to highlight that this is a *our* issue, we are a community
Sorry for the crosspost.
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Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You can
>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working for
>many months already. This is my definition of "covering basic talk pages".
>Even more importantly is that you can write
Who set the targets that will now not be met, how were they decided, and when
were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was not taken into
consideration by these planners.
Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations (like
the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources / FDC) were
working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising has agreed to
change their plans, I think we should give them some breathing room,
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