Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 15 videos

2015-09-05 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Thanks for this Ivan!

The last time I enjoyed Wikimania talks were Wikimania Argentina (2009),
because there were some in Spanish too. I can write in English but
listening is a bit hard for me.

Subtitles are necessary to make the talks accessible to everybody, not only
non-English speakers but also deaf people.

If I can help transcribing or whatever, just contact me.

2015-09-05 5:46 GMT+02:00 Ivan Martínez :

> Sorry for the crosspost.
> Thanks,
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ivan Martínez 
> Date: 2015-09-04 22:38 GMT-05:00
> Subject: Wikimania 15 videos
> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hi everyone, the featured speakers videos are up now, both on Commons and
> Youtube. We have two versions of each speaker, the original audio and the
> simultaneous translation English or Spanish according to the case.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_presentation_videos
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxdLXCagb6RAiK9w2y0DsDUzWF7dgj7j-
>
> Our volunteers will work in the next months in the closed caption of each
> talk. Will be very nice if we can have many translations many languages as
> possible.
>
> We have pending only the publication of the Wikimania 15 documentary, that
> will be premiered soon at National Film Archive of Mexico (Cineteca
> Nacional) and TV UNAM, public digital TV with national reach, and then
> shared by all our channels. Stay tuned!
>
> Thanks again for the great moments we lived in Mexico City.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-05 Thread Danny Horn
We are planning to put Flow into public dumps this month, and work with all
the remaining communities still using LQT about converting to Flow. I
wanted to let this announcement settle for a minute before we talk to them.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, John Mark Vandenberg 
wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> >>Much more importantly, Flow very much does cover basic talk pages. You
> can
> >>write a title and an OP and get people to reply. This has been working
> for
> >>many months already. This is my definition of "covering basic talk
> pages".
> >>
> >>Even more importantly is that you can write a title and an OP and get
> >>people to reply ON THEIR PHONES. This is nearly impossible on the classic
> >>talk pages; on them you are lucky to even manage to read the existing
> >>discussions, and typing a reply requires extra finger-acrobatics. With
> >>Flow it's as easy as on Twitter. I do almost no coding for Mobile
> >>Frontend and apps, but I'm a kind of a volunteer mobile technologies
> >>ambassador in my home wiki, and good mobile support for talk pages is the
> >>#1 request that I hear from veteran editors with regards to using
> >>Wikipedia on their phones. This is another thing that Flow has been doing
> >>for many months already.
> >
> > I think most of the points you raise here are true of LiquidThreads or
> > _any_ prototype of a discussion system. Yes, you get a reply button
> > instead of needing ":: " wikitext. That's great, I agree, but after
> > having watched LiquidThreads rot and then seeing a lot of time, money,
> and
> > effort put into Flow, I'm pretty dissatisfied with the deliverable being
> > essentially a very intricate proof-of-concept. I think not getting Flow
> > fully deployed to Wikimedia wikis is objectively a large failure to
> > deliver. Consequently, it seems most prudent to be asking what went wrong
> > and how it will be better next time. The underlying reality is that we
> > still need a better on-wiki discussion system and it now looks like
> > neither LiquidThreads nor Flow are going to be it.
>
> In addition to this, we still have LiquidThreads (LQT) in production.
>
> I can understand Flow being put into maintenance mode, especially if
> temporarily while energy is focused elsewhere, but I believe the main
> Flow project should at least include:
>
> 1. dumping Flow content into the public dumps (
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398 ), and
>
> 2. decommissioning LiquidThreads on all Wikimedia sites by converting
> them to Flow
>
> According to Wikiapiary [1] , there are still seven 'active' WMF sites
> using LiquidThreads.
>
> I see LQT is still actively being used on five of them:
>
>
> https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges=30==90
>
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges=30==90
>
>
> https://pt.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:Mudan%C3%A7as_recentes=30==90
>
>
> https://fi.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toiminnot:Tuoreet_muutokset=30==90
> (conversion to Flow requested: T104089)
>
>
> https://se.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Senaste_%C3%A4ndringar=30==90
> (conversion to Flow requested: T106302)
>
> But no Thread: activity on two others:
> http://hu.wikipedia.org/
> (They are trialling Flow? T107301)
> http://sv.wikisource.org/
>
> It is also installed on two locked projects: Wikimania 2010, and
> Wikimedia Strategic Planning.  Can't they be converted to Flow ?
>
> And it is still installed on https://www.mediawiki.org/ .  Is that
> still necessary?
>
> Is the current plan simply "let users request LiquidThreads pages be
> converted to Flow"?
>
> Which of the above sites are only using it in user talk?
>
> Have any of the above sites affirmatively decided they do not want to
> switch to Flow (yet)?
> If so, what are their reasons?
>
> 1.
> https://wikiapiary.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask=0=20=[[Has+extension%3A%3AExtension%3ALiquid+Threads]]=format%3Dtable%2Flink%3Dall%2Fheaders%3Dshow%2Fmainlabel%3D-2D%2Fintro%3D-3Cb-3EThis-20extension-20is-20in-20use-20on-20the-20following-20websites%3A-3C-2Fb-3E-3Cbr-20-2F-3E%2Fsearchlabel%3D%E2%80%A6-20further-20results%2Fdefault%3DThis-20extension-20is-20no-20longer-20in-20use-20on-20any-20website.%2Fclass%3Dsortable-20wikitable-20smwtable=%3FHas+website%3DWiki+name%0A%3FHas+MediaWiki+version%3DMediaWiki+version%0A%3FHas+extension+version%3DExtension+version%0A=Has+MediaWiki+version=descending%2Crand=no
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-09-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Firstly, I'm delighted to see that a mutually acceptable compromise has
been reached here.  Well done everyone in coming together with the best
interests of the entire movement in mind.

If I can make a suggestion though, I'd suggest that the fundraising team
and the community, particularly the WLM crew, get together *now* and try to
work out how those campaigns are going to be coordinated so that this
doesn't happen again next year, while there are still good vibes in the
air.  Something we're all really bad at as a movement, is procrastinating
on these sort of issues, but if there is a bit of forward planning there's
no reason that everyone can't have their cake and eat it too.

Cheers,
Craig

On 31 August 2015 at 21:02, Megan Hernandez 
wrote:

> Below is a message that Andrea Zanni, President of Wikimedia Italia, and I
> have written together.
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. We would like to fill you
> in on the background work and conversations between Wikimedia Italia and
> WMF.
>
> There was a scheduling problem to solve between two very important
> campaigns for the movement. Wiki Loves Monuments is a major contribution
> campaign and annual effort.  Fundraising campaigns fund the movement and
> the team has a difficult goal this year with quarterly targets to meet.
> Direct communication was needed to work through the issue.
>
> WMIT and WMF have been talking through the situation and many possible
> solutions over the past few weeks. Through very honest and respectful phone
> and email conversations, we were able to reach a mutual understanding of
> the issue and decided to move the fundraising campaign after Wiki Loves
> Monuments. We reached this agreement over the weekend (actually several
> hours before the RfC was posted online), but an immediate reply was not
> sent because we wanted to coordinate an update to the list. Weekend
> coordination is tricky, which is why this email is being sent on Monday.
>
> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time in at
> least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a target. The team
> will pick up extra work in October to make up for work missed in September.
> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will need
> to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for missing the
> September target.
>
> Wikimedia Italia and the WMF fundraising team have collaborated in the past
> on several projects (chapter banner and email campaigns as well as
> fundraising campaigns). We are currently working together on ways to get
> more contributors to WLM in Italy this year and on the upcoming fundraiser.
> We’ll work on communication and will share mutual expertise. We look
> forward to continuing to grow the relationship and working more closely
> going forward.
>
> It’s clear we need a better process to coordinate campaigns. We are a vast
> and complex movement, so communication is key. Together with the Community
> Engagement team, we are thinking of ways to improve and we appreciate your
> effort toward this improvement. Reasonable and respectful communication is
> how we were able to reach a solution, we need to build from this going
> forward.
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided constructive ideas to help solve the
> problem. Best of luck to all the WLM campaigns that launch tomorrow! Thank
> you for all your work on WLM, we’re all looking forward to seeing the new
> contributions this year.
>
>
> Megan Hernandez and Andrea Zanni
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that this happens just after the RFC is started. Maybe no
> > relevance...
> > Cheers,
> > P
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Zanni
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:21 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> > Cc: Wikimedia Chapters general discussions
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in
> > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
> >
> > Hello everybody.
> > I'm happy to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has decided not to
> run
> > the Fundraising banner in Italy during September.
> >
> > In the last week, the Fundraising Team and Wikimedia Italia's board
> worked
> > hard together to find a common solution. In these very last days, we
> > continued a very honest and direct conversation.
> > I just received the news, and I'm glad to share it with you all.
> >
> > I personally think that the Fundraising Team made a brave move (as they
> > will not likely meet the fundraising goals), and would love to see it
> > welcomed with the respect it deserves.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki <
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New WMF initiative: Community Capacity Development

2015-09-05 Thread Craig Franklin
As someone who has been telling anyone at the WMF who will listen that this
sort of capacity development is *essential* if community groups are going
to meet the governance requirements of the Foundation and actually achieve
measurable outcomes, I'm enormously pleased that something has finally been
done about this.  Nothing to add at this point except high fives and thanks
all around for everyone who was involved in making this happen.

Cheers,
Craig

On 26 August 2015 at 09:40, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> {{Nutshell|WMF Community Engagement Team is allocating staff time and
> funding to deliberate capacity-development projects with interested
> communities in six capacity areas: community governance; conflict
> management; on-wiki technical skills; new contributor engagement and
> growth; partnerships; communications}}
>
> ==Details==
> This is a new way of partnering with WMF: through two way conversations
> (rather than top-down planning), WMF will work with specific emerging
> communities to explore obstacles for community growth and explore and pilot
> solutions together.
>
> The first phase of this work consisted of a series of in-depth interviews
> with individuals from 16 specific emerging communities to gather
> information about existing and missing capacities.  Reviewing those
> interviews in aggregate, we came up with six capacities it seems useful to
> work together on.
>
> We prepared a page per such capacity, detailing challenges and possible
> approaches to build that capacity. We welcome your  feedback! Contributions
> to those pages can be done in the following ways:
>
> * Sign up on the sidebar of each capacity subpage if you want to implement
> certain practices described,
> * Provide more links to resources,
> * Expand the Potential Solutions section with new ideas.
>
> These pages, including your contributions, will serve as the basis for
> specific conversations with specific communities to develop plans or
> projects to build capacity.
>
> During this initial pilot period, we intend to pursue projects in two or
> three capacities at most, which will be chosen according to community
> interest, scale of community, and scale of readership.  We expect some of
> the specific actions we take in these projects would create resources
> [re-]usable by other communities as well.
>
> ==Join the Conversation==
> We invite you all to read through the capacity pages, and specifically, to
> see if the challenges described resonate with you and your community.  If
> they do, have an on-wiki discussion about it with your community, and if
> there's general interest, sign up on the capacity pages and we'll have a
> conversation about what might be some possible next steps.
>
> Find the six capacity pages on Meta, here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Development
>
> Looking forward to fruitful engagement,
>
>Asaf Bartov
>Sati Houston
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[Wikimedia-l] LsJbot and geonames

2015-09-05 Thread Anders Wennersten
Geonames [1] is a database which holds around 9 M entries of 
geographical related items from all over the world.


Lsjbot is now generating articles from a subset of it, after several 
months of extensive research on its quality, Wikidata relations and 
notability issues. While the quality in some regions is substandard (and 
these will not be generated) it was seen as very good in most areas.  In 
the discussion  I was intrigued to learn that identical Arabic names 
should be transcribed differently depending on its geographic location. 
And I was fascinated of the question of notability of wells in the 
Bahrain desert (which in the end was excluded, mostly because we knew 
too little of that reality)


In this run Lsjbot has extended its functionality even further then when 
it generated articles for species. It looks for relevant geographical 
items close to the actual one: a lake close by, a mountain and where is 
the nearest major town etc.


Macedonia  can be taken as one example. Lsjbot generated over 1 
articles (and 5000 disambiguous pages) making it a magnitude more than 
what exist in enwp. Also for a well defined type like villages, almost 
50% as many has been generated than existing in enwp. One example [2] 
where you can see what has been generated (and note the reuse of a 
relevant figure existing in frwp). Please compare the corresponding 
articles on other languages in this case, many having less information 
than the bot generated one.


The generation is still in early stage [3) but has already got the 
article count for svwp to pass 2 M  today.  But it will take many months 
more before completed and perhaps more M marks will be passed before it 
is through. If you want to give feedback you are welcome to enter it at [4]


Anders
(with all credits for the Lsjbot to be given to Sverker, its owner, I am 
just one of the many supporters of him and his bot on svwp)


[1]
http://www.geonames.org/about.html

[2]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaki_%28ort_i_Makedonien%29

[3]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Robotskapade_geografiartiklar

[4]
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Lsjbot/Projekt_alla_platser




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