Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Laurentius
At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
to contact you?

Laurentius

Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
> Dear all,
> 
> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the 
> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a 
> place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user 
> groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to 
> other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide 
> events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across 
> our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide 
> activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, 
> or other communications from affiliates.
> 
> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the 
> mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to 
> request additional spots if needed.
> 
> Please find a bit more information on Meta: 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
>  
> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> 
> Regards,
> Carlos




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Chris Keating
Since October 27th there have been 3 threads, all started by the same
person, with a total of 5 posts .

None of which said anything at all confidential. :)

Chris

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Laurentius 
wrote:

> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> to contact you?
>
> Laurentius
>
> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
> > launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
> > place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
> > groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
> > other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
> > events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
> > our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
> > activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts,
> > or other communications from affiliates.
> >
> > Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
> > mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
> > request additional spots if needed.
> >
> > Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
> > and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carlos
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

2015-11-03 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive)
Sorry to hear about that. Condolences to his family and friends.


-Hasive
WMBD

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Tanweer Morshed 
wrote:

> Condolences to friends and family and dear ones of Khalid. That it
> definitely a irreparable loss.
>
> Regards,
> Tanweer Morshed
> Wikimedia Bangladesh
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Lila Tretikov  wrote:
>
> > Thank you Asaf. A huge loss. Condolences to all who were close.
> >
> > sent from mobile. please excuse typos.
> > On Nov 1, 2015 4:47 AM, "Tito Dutta"  wrote:
> >
> > > Sad news. :(
> > > I agree with Bodhisattwa that it is a huge loss.
> > >
> > >
> > >1. His English Wikipedia userpage is fully protected (WP:DECEASED
> > >guideline #1)
> > >2. His name is added here:
> > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2015
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 1 November 2015 at 16:16, Shlomi Fish 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:14:11 -0700
> > > > Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to
> > the
> > > > > Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after
> long
> > > > > illness.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > sorry to hear about that. My condolences go to his family and
> friends.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shlomi Fish
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -
> > > > Shlomi Fish   http://www.shlomifish.org/
> > > > http://youtu.be/xZLwtc9x4yA - Anime in Real Life!! (Parody)
> > > >
> > > > Vizzini: He didn’t fall?! Inconceivable!
> > > > Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what
> > you
> > > > think it means.
> > > > — http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Princess_Bride_%28film%29
> > > >
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> > http://shlom.in/reply
> > > .
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[Wikimedia-l] Community Tech: October report

2015-11-03 Thread Danny Horn
In the Community Tech team, we're constantly striving to make the world
better by creating helpful things and fixing unhelpful things. We're
basically superheroes, and we wear capes at all times. Here's what we've
been up to this month.
* We built a new Special:GadgetUsage report that's live on all wikis; it
lists gadgets used on the wiki, ordered by the number of users. Not to be
clickbait or anything, but THE RESULTS WILL SHOCK YOU. Check it out at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GadgetUsage or your own favorite
wiki.

* HotCat is one of the most popular gadgets -- see: GadgetUsage report
above -- which helps people remove, change and add categories. We fixed
HotCat on over 100 wikis where it was broken, including Wikipedias in
Egyptian Arabic, Ripuarian, Buginese and Navajo, and five projects in Farsi
-- Wikinews, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikivoyage and Wiktionary. You're
welcome, Farsi! (More info on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HotCat
)

* CitationBot is a combination tool/on-wiki gadget that helps to expand
incomplete citations. We got it running again after the https change,
updated it, and fixed some outstanding bugs, including handling multiple
author names. (See http://tools.wmflabs.org/citations/doibot.html for more
info.)

* We also built a prototype of a new tool called RevisionSlider, which
helps editors navigate through diff pages without having to go back and
forth to the history page. The prototype is live now on test.wp, and we'd
love to get your feedback -- visit
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/RevisionSlider

Coming up in November:
* We're starting a big cross-project Community Wishlist Survey on November
9th, inviting contributors from any wiki to propose and vote on the
features and fixes they'd like our team to work on. The survey page is on
Meta, at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey --
please join us there on Monday to add your proposals.

* While that's going on, we're currently considering work in a few
different areas, including completing Gadgets 2.0 and building some modules
to help WikiProjects.

You can keep track of what we're working on by watching Community Tech/News
on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/News -- and feel
free to leave questions or comments on the talk page. Thanks!


DannyH (WMF)

Community Tech
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Gnangarra
appologies, yeah its the Affcom list not the Affiliates list, multiple
email from you on both this morning didnt notice the email address change
so my appologies again

On 4 November 2015 at 07:33, Gregory Varnum 
wrote:

> I have not seen any moderated messages - but will check. That is not
> intentional.
>
> Perhaps the moderated message you are referring to is from your email to
> AffCom?
>
> -greg
>
> ___
> Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later.
>
> > On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Gnangarra  wrote:
> >
> > just an observation, I tried responding to a discussion on that list, now
> > I've already jumped through the ID hoops and shown I'm part of an
> affiliate
> > yet my messages are moderated, to me that seams kind of point;less, like
> to
> > cause disjointed discussion, give the impression that the list is
> censoring
> > and cause people just to not bother with it.
> >
> > On 3 November 2015 at 22:10, Gregory Varnum 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We are still contacting affiliates to invite them to join. So far we
> have
> >> used mailing lists and MassMessage to contact affiliates. Since many of
> >> them are not on this list, it is tricky tracking them all down (partly
> why
> >> this list is being created). As it turns out - more heard from the
> >> MassMessage and Signpost than this list (which - sort of speaks to why
> WM-l
> >> is not a good method of reaching the affiliates). We do not have one
> good
> >> place to reach all of the affiliates without this list, so it is taking
> a
> >> bit to track everyone down. Basically every couple days I am finding
> more
> >> affiliate leaders who have not yet heard about the list (again -
> speaking
> >> to one reason why we agreed this list should be created).
> >>
> >> However, we are steadily getting requests to join and I believe
> personally
> >> we are making good progress.
> >>
> >> Generally, I do not yet consider it “active” and many folks are still
> >> holding off starting threads until there are more affiliates brought
> >> onboard.
> >>
> >> My personal guess is that it will be at least another few weeks before
> >> we’ve been able to track everyone down, and the list can be considered
> >> active.
> >>
> >> -greg
> >>
> >>
>  On Nov 3, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Laurentius 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> >>> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> >>> to contact you?
> >>>
> >>> Laurentius
> >>>
> >>> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha
> scritto:
>  Dear all,
> 
>  On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
>  launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
>  place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
>  groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
>  other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
>  events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
>  our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
>  activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report
> posts,
>  or other communications from affiliates.
> 
>  Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
>  mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
>  request additional spots if needed.
> 
>  Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
>  and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Carlos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Gregory Varnum
I have not seen any moderated messages - but will check. That is not 
intentional.

Perhaps the moderated message you are referring to is from your email to AffCom?

-greg

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> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Gnangarra  wrote:
> 
> just an observation, I tried responding to a discussion on that list, now
> I've already jumped through the ID hoops and shown I'm part of an affiliate
> yet my messages are moderated, to me that seams kind of point;less, like to
> cause disjointed discussion, give the impression that the list is censoring
> and cause people just to not bother with it.
> 
> On 3 November 2015 at 22:10, Gregory Varnum 
> wrote:
> 
>> We are still contacting affiliates to invite them to join. So far we have
>> used mailing lists and MassMessage to contact affiliates. Since many of
>> them are not on this list, it is tricky tracking them all down (partly why
>> this list is being created). As it turns out - more heard from the
>> MassMessage and Signpost than this list (which - sort of speaks to why WM-l
>> is not a good method of reaching the affiliates). We do not have one good
>> place to reach all of the affiliates without this list, so it is taking a
>> bit to track everyone down. Basically every couple days I am finding more
>> affiliate leaders who have not yet heard about the list (again - speaking
>> to one reason why we agreed this list should be created).
>> 
>> However, we are steadily getting requests to join and I believe personally
>> we are making good progress.
>> 
>> Generally, I do not yet consider it “active” and many folks are still
>> holding off starting threads until there are more affiliates brought
>> onboard.
>> 
>> My personal guess is that it will be at least another few weeks before
>> we’ve been able to track everyone down, and the list can be considered
>> active.
>> 
>> -greg
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 3, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Laurentius 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
>>> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
>>> to contact you?
>>> 
>>> Laurentius
>>> 
>>> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
 Dear all,
 
 On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
 launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
 place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
 groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
 other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
 events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
 our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
 activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts,
 or other communications from affiliates.
 
 Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
 mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
 request additional spots if needed.
 
 Please find a bit more information on Meta:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
 and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
 
 Regards,
 Carlos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Wikimedia-l] Subject: Community Tech: October report

2015-11-03 Thread James Heilman
Danny,  great overview. Thanks for the work you and your team are doing :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Gnangarra
just an observation, I tried responding to a discussion on that list, now
I've already jumped through the ID hoops and shown I'm part of an affiliate
yet my messages are moderated, to me that seams kind of point;less, like to
cause disjointed discussion, give the impression that the list is censoring
and cause people just to not bother with it.

On 3 November 2015 at 22:10, Gregory Varnum 
wrote:

> We are still contacting affiliates to invite them to join. So far we have
> used mailing lists and MassMessage to contact affiliates. Since many of
> them are not on this list, it is tricky tracking them all down (partly why
> this list is being created). As it turns out - more heard from the
> MassMessage and Signpost than this list (which - sort of speaks to why WM-l
> is not a good method of reaching the affiliates). We do not have one good
> place to reach all of the affiliates without this list, so it is taking a
> bit to track everyone down. Basically every couple days I am finding more
> affiliate leaders who have not yet heard about the list (again - speaking
> to one reason why we agreed this list should be created).
>
> However, we are steadily getting requests to join and I believe personally
> we are making good progress.
>
> Generally, I do not yet consider it “active” and many folks are still
> holding off starting threads until there are more affiliates brought
> onboard.
>
> My personal guess is that it will be at least another few weeks before
> we’ve been able to track everyone down, and the list can be considered
> active.
>
> -greg
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Laurentius 
> wrote:
> >
> > At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> > If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> > to contact you?
> >
> > Laurentius
> >
> > Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
> >> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
> >> place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
> >> groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
> >> other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
> >> events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
> >> our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
> >> activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts,
> >> or other communications from affiliates.
> >>
> >> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
> >> mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
> >> request additional spots if needed.
> >>
> >> Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
> >> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Gregory Varnum
My fault for reusing the subject line. :)

-greg

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> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Gnangarra  wrote:
> 
> appologies, yeah its the Affcom list not the Affiliates list, multiple
> email from you on both this morning didnt notice the email address change
> so my appologies again
> 
> On 4 November 2015 at 07:33, Gregory Varnum 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have not seen any moderated messages - but will check. That is not
>> intentional.
>> 
>> Perhaps the moderated message you are referring to is from your email to
>> AffCom?
>> 
>> -greg
>> 
>> ___
>> Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later.
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Gnangarra  wrote:
>>> 
>>> just an observation, I tried responding to a discussion on that list, now
>>> I've already jumped through the ID hoops and shown I'm part of an
>> affiliate
>>> yet my messages are moderated, to me that seams kind of point;less, like
>> to
>>> cause disjointed discussion, give the impression that the list is
>> censoring
>>> and cause people just to not bother with it.
>>> 
>>> On 3 November 2015 at 22:10, Gregory Varnum 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 We are still contacting affiliates to invite them to join. So far we
>> have
 used mailing lists and MassMessage to contact affiliates. Since many of
 them are not on this list, it is tricky tracking them all down (partly
>> why
 this list is being created). As it turns out - more heard from the
 MassMessage and Signpost than this list (which - sort of speaks to why
>> WM-l
 is not a good method of reaching the affiliates). We do not have one
>> good
 place to reach all of the affiliates without this list, so it is taking
>> a
 bit to track everyone down. Basically every couple days I am finding
>> more
 affiliate leaders who have not yet heard about the list (again -
>> speaking
 to one reason why we agreed this list should be created).
 
 However, we are steadily getting requests to join and I believe
>> personally
 we are making good progress.
 
 Generally, I do not yet consider it “active” and many folks are still
 holding off starting threads until there are more affiliates brought
 onboard.
 
 My personal guess is that it will be at least another few weeks before
 we’ve been able to track everyone down, and the list can be considered
 active.
 
 -greg
 
 
>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Laurentius 
> wrote:
> 
> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> to contact you?
> 
> Laurentius
> 
> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha
>> scritto:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
>> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
>> place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user
>> groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to
>> other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide
>> events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across
>> our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide
>> activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report
>> posts,
>> or other communications from affiliates.
>> 
>> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
>> mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to
>> request additional spots if needed.
>> 
>> Please find a bit more information on Meta:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
>> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlos
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-03 Thread Pine W
(Sorry, something went awry with my mail client. Let's try this again to
keep the thread intact).

Besides what readers think when they're fully informed, I'm also concerned
about the legal issues surrounding the fundraising. IANAL, but I have a
feeling that consumer protection attorneys may take an interest if they
feel that there is a meaningful disconnect between what messages FR conveys
and (1) how the funds are actually spent and/or (2) the overall financial
health of WMF. Let's avoid inflicting legal costs and PR damage on
ourselves, please. (:

Pine

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lisa Gruwell 
> wrote:
>
> > So, we have drilled down on this more in our research to better
> > understand what our readers think on this topic.  We should have more to
> > share on that in a week or two.
> >
>
>
> What readers think about this topic will very much depend on what
> information they have been given.
>
> You need to find out what readers think who know
>
> 1. the cost of Internet hosting relative to the total budget (about 3
> percent);
> 2. that you took five times as much money last year as you took five years
> ago;
> 3. how much money the Foundation has in cash and investments;
> 4. that the number of paid staff has increased more than twentyfold since
> 2007;
> 5. how the vastly increased spending is affecting reader experience.
>
> Do you know what readers who know all of this think about the banners? Have
> there been focus groups with donors who were given all of this information?
>
> This is necessary to make sure that when (not if) readers do find all of
> this information out, there won't be a storm of protest from people who
> feel they were misled as to the Foundation's financial situation.
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2015-11-03 Thread Pine W
Besides what readers think when they're fully informed, I'm also concerned
about the legal issues surrounding the fundraising. IANAL, but I have a
feeling that consumer protection attorneys may take an interest if they
feel that there is a meaningful disconnect between what messages FR conveys
and (1) how the funds are actually spent and/or (2) the overall financial
health of WMF. Let's avoid inflicting legal costs and PR damage on
ourselves, please. (:

Pine

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lisa Gruwell 
> wrote:
>
> > So, we have drilled down on this more in our research to better
> > understand what our readers think on this topic.  We should have more to
> > share on that in a week or two.
> >
>
>
> What readers think about this topic will very much depend on what
> information they have been given.
>
> You need to find out what readers think who know
>
> 1. the cost of Internet hosting relative to the total budget (about 3
> percent);
> 2. that you took five times as much money last year as you took five years
> ago;
> 3. how much money the Foundation has in cash and investments;
> 4. that the number of paid staff has increased more than twentyfold since
> 2007;
> 5. how the vastly increased spending is affecting reader experience.
>
> Do you know what readers who know all of this think about the banners? Have
> there been focus groups with donors who were given all of this information?
>
> This is necessary to make sure that when (not if) readers do find all of
> this information out, there won't be a storm of protest from people who
> feel they were misled as to the Foundation's financial situation.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-03 Thread Gnangarra
I think the PR people really need to be more reflective in the reasons and
uses of the donations in their messages because its rather easy to show the
inconsistancy between the message and the use of donated funds... IMHO some
of the drop off in donations is due to this lack reflectivity in the
messages being sent .


even the simplest throw away tag in almost every  banner  of "lets us get
to back to  improving wikipedia" doesnt hold as everyone knows WMF doesnt
have any control over content and therefore cant improve it, very little of
the fu nds ever trickles down to coal face where the contributors are.

On 4 November 2015 at 10:04, Pine W  wrote:

> (Sorry, something went awry with my mail client. Let's try this again to
> keep the thread intact).
>
> Besides what readers think when they're fully informed, I'm also concerned
> about the legal issues surrounding the fundraising. IANAL, but I have a
> feeling that consumer protection attorneys may take an interest if they
> feel that there is a meaningful disconnect between what messages FR conveys
> and (1) how the funds are actually spent and/or (2) the overall financial
> health of WMF. Let's avoid inflicting legal costs and PR damage on
> ourselves, please. (:
>
> Pine
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lisa Gruwell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So, we have drilled down on this more in our research to better
> > > understand what our readers think on this topic.  We should have more
> to
> > > share on that in a week or two.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What readers think about this topic will very much depend on what
> > information they have been given.
> >
> > You need to find out what readers think who know
> >
> > 1. the cost of Internet hosting relative to the total budget (about 3
> > percent);
> > 2. that you took five times as much money last year as you took five
> years
> > ago;
> > 3. how much money the Foundation has in cash and investments;
> > 4. that the number of paid staff has increased more than twentyfold since
> > 2007;
> > 5. how the vastly increased spending is affecting reader experience.
> >
> > Do you know what readers who know all of this think about the banners?
> Have
> > there been focus groups with donors who were given all of this
> information?
> >
> > This is necessary to make sure that when (not if) readers do find all of
> > this information out, there won't be a storm of protest from people who
> > feel they were misled as to the Foundation's financial situation.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

2015-11-03 Thread Gregory Varnum
We are still contacting affiliates to invite them to join. So far we have used 
mailing lists and MassMessage to contact affiliates. Since many of them are not 
on this list, it is tricky tracking them all down (partly why this list is 
being created). As it turns out - more heard from the MassMessage and Signpost 
than this list (which - sort of speaks to why WM-l is not a good method of 
reaching the affiliates). We do not have one good place to reach all of the 
affiliates without this list, so it is taking a bit to track everyone down. 
Basically every couple days I am finding more affiliate leaders who have not 
yet heard about the list (again - speaking to one reason why we agreed this 
list should be created).

However, we are steadily getting requests to join and I believe personally we 
are making good progress.

Generally, I do not yet consider it “active” and many folks are still holding 
off starting threads until there are more affiliates brought onboard.

My personal guess is that it will be at least another few weeks before we’ve 
been able to track everyone down, and the list can be considered active.

-greg


> On Nov 3, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Laurentius  wrote:
> 
> At the end, is that mailing list currently active?
> If it is, are you asking affiliates to join, or are affiliates expected
> to contact you?
> 
> Laurentius
> 
> Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 00.04 +0300, Carlos M. Colina ha scritto:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the 
>> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a 
>> place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user 
>> groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to 
>> other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide 
>> events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across 
>> our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide 
>> activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, 
>> or other communications from affiliates.
>> 
>> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the 
>> mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to 
>> request additional spots if needed.
>> 
>> Please find a bit more information on Meta: 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
>>  
>> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Carlos
> 
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