Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-11-24 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Leila Zia wrote: > > It's worth mentioning: > > Dominant search engines do not rely on one source of information to surface > results, they get information from many sources, weigh the responses they > get based on the trust on the sources

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Wil Sinclair
Actually, as an employee of the WMF, Asaf may be able to contribute here. Asaf, this is an issue that you feel the organization you that pays you to help fulfill its mission must address. How are you going to lead within the WMF to make sure it gets addressed? Best. ,Wil On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Nicola Zeuner
Dear Risker, Gerard et al., Just a quick correction: WMDE did indeed provide a detailed cost breakdown for Wikidata costs as well as other software development costs, down to the activity level, in table 6b, in the financial section

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Branislav Jovanovic, User:BraneJ in critical condition

2015-11-24 Thread Mardetanha
please keep us updated about his situation Mardetanha On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:06 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > All the best brane!! > On Nov 23, 2015 18:43, "Samir Elsharbaty" > wrote: > > > Brane, > > > > I didn't have the pleasure of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-11-24 Thread Leila Zia
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > > > 5.People need to able to trust all data in WikiData, otherwise they just > > wont use it because as Wikidata expands the same PR firms,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel ]], as a landing page to link from the banner. If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Sam Klein
Thank you to everyone working on this. Basel is a beautiful person, who contributed in so many ways to sharing knowledge, not only in our community. A banner (in rotation for a month? with a focused drive on one day coordinated w/ other activist groups?), and possibly a logo ribbon, would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Risker
Thank you, Nikki. Yes, about 70% of the costs were broken down, more or less. But almost 30% - totalling over US$635,000 - is undifferentiated "floating capacity" and "administrative costs". Those two amounts, which are not broken down by program, total more than any other Wikimedia movement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-11-24 Thread Gnangarra
this isnt about how or whats of Google its about ensuring that what we do is trustworthy On 25 November 2015 at 08:12, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Leila Zia wrote: > > > > > It's worth mentioning: > > > > Dominant search

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread MZMcBride
matanya moses wrote: >tl;dr: The FDC’s recommendations for this round of the APG grant >requests have now been published at: >https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/14803740 > >The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) meets twice a year to help >make decisions about how to effectively

[Wikimedia-l] [x-post] Reminder: Language Engineering Office Hour today i.e. November 25, 2015 at 1300 UTC

2015-11-24 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
Hello, A reminder that the online office hour hosted by the Wikimedia Language Engineering team is scheduled for later today at 1300 UTC. You can join the hangout or watch the session from: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cprj7uhtiercilrilp2gfpca8dg Please note, due to the limitation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi Craig, You are right, this has been an ongoing request for years. This year we did many infrastructure updates for financial planning. However we missed some objectives. I take responsibility, specifically for the very short community feedback window on the annual plan this year. We fixed this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
We have put a message on the Wikimedia Nederland website. We hope to get a lot of visitors tomorrow because of the Erasmusprize-ceremony. Not a central notice, but it is a start. Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland tel.(+31) (0)30 3200238 mob. (+31) (0)6

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi everyone, Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Isarra Yos
On 24/11/15 09:47, Asaf Bartov wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Fæ wrote: Brandon's description of this looking like a 'kiss off', i.e. a spin to make this disappear for another year, seems to meet the facts of what can be observed and measured in a non-subjective

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
בוקר טוב, אני שמח לבשר שה-FDC, הוועדה האחראית על המלצות המימון לארגוני ויקימדיה בתנועה, המליצה להעניק מימון מלא לוויקימדיה ישראל השנה. יש הרבה מחמאות על העבודה שלנו, אך גם מעט ביקורת, שלא נעלמת מעינינו, על ההצעה השנה:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
On 24.11.2015 08:22, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > We need to do much better than this. This is a Wikipedian. It is a notable > person in his own right and we sit on our hands? Yes. The movement needs to free resources quickly to campaign efficiently on this. Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Ed Erhart
Hi all, Liam Wyatt has written an accompanying Wikimedia blog post on the FDC's process. Please take a look: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/11/23/fdc-grant-distribution/ Best, --Ed On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > בוקר טוב, > > אני

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So in essence one of the most relevant development project - Wikidata - that is arguably already underfunded will be even more underfunded and we have to say thank you for doing a good job? Ok.. I thank Wikimedia Germany for doing a stellar job. It is an acknowledged source for inspiration

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Sorry. Wrong list :) - Sent from mobile On Nov 24, 2015 10:00 AM, "Itzik - Wikimedia Israel" wrote: > בוקר טוב, > > אני שמח לבשר שה-FDC, הוועדה האחראית על המלצות המימון לארגוני ויקימדיה > בתנועה, המליצה להעניק מימון מלא לוויקימדיה ישראל השנה. > > יש הרבה מחמאות על העבודה

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread
On 24 November 2015 at 07:46, Isarra Yos wrote: > I had a go at simplifying: > >> We know spending less time on this is a problem, but we're going to try to >> do better. In order to help with this, we'll also be looking at what's >> happened in previous years in order to see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
It one day that I have this reply in my Drafts... --- On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Samir Elsharbaty wrote: > Some suggestions of things we can do: > Use the centralnotice. --- Gerard said it too. I understand that this is something unprecedented, as it was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Fæ wrote: > Brandon's description of this looking like a 'kiss off', i.e. a spin > to make this disappear for another year, seems to meet the facts of > what can be observed and measured in a non-subjective way. > Yes. I encourage everyone to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni : > Use the centralnotice. [...] > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing in > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the caution > of setting a precedent, but I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth wrote: > +1 > Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start > a draft on Meta Wiki with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni wrote: > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Tito Dutta
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award..

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Lila, I very much appreciate your prompt response, but this has been an ongoing issue for years. What is required now is not more going around in circles with "consultation" and "discussions" that don't go anywhere; what is needed is for the WMF to take action to improve the transparency of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-24 Thread Risker
Hello Gerard - The recommended grant for Wikimedia Deutschland is larger than ever, and represents a 42% increase from last year's grant. This is a massive increase. Please don't confuse the fact that WMDE did not get everything it wanted with whether or not Wikidata is underfunded. Remember,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel . Daniel On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I have started a text.. > Thanks, > GerardM > >