Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

2016-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist email offlist.
On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating"  wrote:

> That's what the Googleplex wants you to think!
> On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:
>
> > (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.)
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan  wrote:
> >
> > > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal this
> > guess
> > > at some later date, but for now here is the hash value:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> bd17ae9eef103aec4ce75c8e8ba0c0b9cb45bc63c7bb0b52145642b68b1c6bfb586ea67f18e07e6767b5522765a00e096cf29eceadc0450e8840a19bacb692f2
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> > Asaf Bartov
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> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community

2016-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
That's what the Googleplex wants you to think!
On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:

> (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.)
>
>A.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan  wrote:
>
> > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal this
> guess
> > at some later date, but for now here is the hash value:
> >
> >
> >
> bd17ae9eef103aec4ce75c8e8ba0c0b9cb45bc63c7bb0b52145642b68b1c6bfb586ea67f18e07e6767b5522765a00e096cf29eceadc0450e8840a19bacb692f2
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning

2016-01-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
13.01.2016 2:48 AM "Vituzzu"  napisał(a):

>
> Yep, since the second one is, eventually, way to pursue the first one.

I agree in principle, while I think it would yet be unwise to delay WMF
strategic planning and community consultations this year.

However, I think it would be really good to think WHO could coordinate the
community strategy development. While it would have been done
collaboratively, there should be a facilitator.

The idea of two boards has been around for a while. I also think that
organizations in the movement could have a coordinating body.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread MF-Warburg
As a mostly silent reader of this list, I'd like to spammingly +1 this
message. There's hardly anything more superfluous than these "Welcome from
Wikimedia Schleswig-Holstein as well" mails.
Am 13.01.2016 12:12 schrieb "Fæ" :

> TL;DR
> Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
> & goodbyes for our public email lists?
>
> BACKGROUND
> Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
> year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
> awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
> without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
> notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
> effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
> muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.
>
> Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
> a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
> noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
> something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
> part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
> equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
> don't get flagged in recent changes.
>
> This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
> was aiming for.
>
> PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
> online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
>
> Fae
>
> On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> ...
> > I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
> > Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board for
> > the time and effort they have spent.
> >
> >- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
> mistake
> >caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
> >
> > I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
> ...
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Advisory Board and Board-appointed seats (was: Beyond the Board)

2016-01-13 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:
> I've been also thinking about revitalizing our Advisory Board - the way I
> would like to see it would be dividing it into (a) community (b) tech and
> (c) academic subgroups, available for immediate consulting and feedback.

Long time ago I suggested more structured way to use Advisory Board.
So, here is the draft of the idea again.

I don't think you need too specific "Community Advisory Board", as you
could reach, for example, AffCom, LangCom, stewards, en.wp ArbCom etc.
-- or, if you really need too general advice and there is no assembly
yet, all of them -- if you need a specific advice. Basically, you have
much better granulated "Community Advisory Board", although the Board
is not using it usually.

You definitely need a kind of "Governing Advisory Board", which would
be consisted of the former Board members and people with very good
knowledge of governing and other ways of social organization (NPOs,
business, movements...).

But, on top of that you could structure your needs. You could start it
by imagining any expertise you collectively lack (I could give you one
clear example immediately: relations with formal diplomacy) and start
thinking how to find appropriate people for that group.

Then, you could create an "Innovation Advisory Board", put there all
Jimmy's technolibertarian ubercapitalist friends and ask them about
their ideas. I am sure they could be very useful in such body. They
could also find useful to participate in such body for Wikim/pedia
cause.

And so on. Any of such advisory boards be even more useful if you
could find them not just an advisory role, but a committe-like
("Diversity Committee", with strong advisory role in relation to the
social diversification of Wikimedia bodies, for example -- "strong
advisory role" = people don't do something against their
recommendation without very strong reason) or even more active role
inside of the movement ("Technology Innovation Committee", with the
role to plan long-term technological innovation).

If you have a couple of active advisory boards, you could recruit new
Board members from them, with the specific purpose, based on the
Strategic Plan or other organizational needs. That could give us

After their mandate as Board members, they would still stay inside of
hopefully active Wikimedia bodies and we won't lose their experience.
Actually, if they don't have enough time to fully participate as Board
members and you still have the same focus, you could always replace
them with a fellow  Advisory Board members.

Said so, this is not that straight-forward task and requires active
work per advisory board you create. There should be a need, a
structure and a way how to engage them. Find a person per advisory
board who is willing to lead such body and delegate the creation and
communication of that body to her or him. (That could be Board member,
somebody from the movement or an employee.)

I also don't think it's in collision with the assembly. Those should
be Wikimedia bodies and any Wikimedia body should be able to ask them
for advice. They could be helpful bodies to the future assembly, as
well.

While I wrote the last paragraph, I realized that we badly need one of
those bodies: Legal Advisory Board: the body which could be asked by
any Wikimedia organization or Wikimedian in relation to any legal
issue they are struggling with.


-- 
Milos

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Peter Southwood
I totally second this.
Peter

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Fæ
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

TL;DR
Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos & 
goodbyes for our public email lists?

BACKGROUND
Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a year which 
'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an awful lot of chapter 
representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes without conveying any new 
information. Sometimes when my email notifier shows about ten of these on the 
same day, I've made the effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of 
specifically muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile 
phone.

Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making a public 
statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be noticed by others 
who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists something like ensuring 
thank email subject lines have a formulaic part of the title would help, so 
that readers can choose to mute them; equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" 
edits on our projects so they don't get flagged in recent changes.

This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he was aiming 
for.

PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this online 
again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.

Fae

On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
...
> I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia 
> Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board 
> for the time and effort they have spent.
>
>- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your mistake
>caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
>
> I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
...
--
fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

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[Wikimedia-l] Help us keep #1lib1ref energized through January 23!

2016-01-13 Thread Alex Stinson
Hi Wikimedians!

The Wikipedia Library is really excited about the #1lib1ref campaign taking
off -- we seem to have found a concept that will excite the global
libraries community to talk more with us, about our common mission: helping
the world get access to reliable knowledge.

Please explore the hashtag on Twitter and other social media: we have
several dozen websites, library organizations, and individuals blog and
reflect on their experience. For example:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%231Lib1Ref . I have included a preview of
some of our tracking below for a sense of our scale.

Please use the campaign to promote the exciting GLAM, research, and
Wikimedia community projects you think librarians would be interested in.

We still need your help:

   -

   Keep sharing and emphasizing the hashtag #1lib1ref. Try to pair your
   posts with #Wikipedia15 when you can.
   -

   Help translate the main page of the campaign  into more languages:
   https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref
   -

  Note: We use some of the headers and sentences in this page, to
  generate multilingual social media posts.
  -

   The campaign technically starts on Friday, but we need to continuously
   remind the global libraries community that they a) can start adding
   references now, and b) should continue adding references all next week. Oh,
   and its not just librarians who are adding references for the campaign --
   that's just our target audience :)
   -

   Publish blogposts talking about Wikmedia’s opportunities with libraries.
   Here are a small sample blog posts that might help inspire your work:
   -

  From our Italian Colleagues :
  http://librarianscape.com/2016/01/09/wikipedia-un-posto-per-bibliotecari/
  -

  From DLF: https://www.diglib.org/archives/11060/
  -

  From our Catalan colleagues:
  
http://blogcrai.ub.edu/2016/01/13/el-crai-de-la-universitat-de-barcelona-sadhereix-a-la-campanya-1lib1ref/
  -

   Reach out to the librarians using the hashtag: some of them are even
   hosting lunch gatherings, or small editing events that engage library
   staffs. These librarians are potential leaders for local events and
   GLAM-Wiki activities.


If successful, we hope to run a similar campaign next year, with more
direction and leadership from a volunteer committee (this year we decided
to move quick, and test the concept alongside #Wikipedia15 ).  If you are
interested in helping organize, let us know at
wikipedialibr...@wikimedia.org .


Give feedback on the campaign and resources that would be helpful for next
years campaign on the talk page on meta :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref

Thank you so much for those who have already stepped up to lead on social
media and translating the meta page!

Alex Stinson

Project Manager

The Wikipedia Library


What impact are we seeing?

We are tracking several different elements of this campaign:

   -

   Usage of the hashtag in social media -- over 600 tweets have used the
   hashtag since January 4. We are also tracking the hashtag on facebook and
   linkedin -- both of which are major networks for librarians.
   -

   Our facebook event is beginning to spread -
   https://www.facebook.com/events/975178119187954/ -- please invite more
   people from your library networks
   -

   Page views - we are seeing between 400-600 pageviews, with nearly 7000
   views in the last month on the English Version of the campaign page, and
   Italian, French and Spanish are seeing 40-60 views a day. Moreover,
   Catalans page, which is on ca.wikipedia, has seen over 2000 visits in the
   last month:
   http://stats.grok.se/ca/latest/Viquiprojecte:Bibliowikis/1Lib1Ref
   -

   We are beginning to see hashtag used on English Wikipedia’s edit
   summaries http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/search/1lib1ref . Based on
   other social media discussions, we think this represents <60% of the
   activity so far.
   -

  We are working with Stephen LaPorte to help the tool support top 20
  language Wikipedias, and Wikipedias like Romanian where we know community
  members are sharing the campaign. Let us know if you don’t think your
  language will be in that group.
  -

  A new phabricator item has been -- it would be incredibly useful for
  other kinds of campaigns: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123529 .
  Please leave feedback and use cases.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Lodewijk
I do agree in general that generic '+1' emails contribute very little. If
you really want to thank someone, or welcome them, it probably makes a
better impression if you write a little more than that. Say a few lines to
introduce the list, give them a tip or offer them to show them around.

Personally, I prefer to send those mails offlist by the way - but I can
feel with people that with all the dramaspam (how important and justified
it sometimes may be/feel) you kinda feel a need to balance that out ;)

Lodewijk

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:17 AM, Gergo Tisza  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chris Keating  >
> wrote:
> >
> > To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list
> (in
> > the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't
> > rule these emails out.
> >
> > After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain little
> > information then pile-on negative threads with equally little information
> > will probably still remain.
>
> +1
> I would much rather filter outrage spam :-) There is more of it, and unlike
> thanks, it tends to have a demoralizing effect.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-13 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
>> My impression is therefore that some sort of a preparatory work is needed
>> to avoid these two traps. Ideally, there would be a drafting group with a
>> broad representation (possibly the members of the group will be prohibited
>> to sit in the first edition of the elected body), and the Board will
>> preliminary express an interest (so that the group knows the chances are
>> not zero). Of course we can just agree on electing the representative body
>> witout actually asking the Board, but I am not sure this would be the right
>> way of doing it.
>>
> Agreed. A mixed working group could be a way to go.

From my perspective, anything which would move the situation from the
status quo would work.

Presently, the discussion has been started on Meta and it would be
good to see your input there. I don't see the proposal as anything in
the form take it or leave it, but as the beginning of the discussion
(or reloading it after a lot of time).

Working group could be created based on that discussion; the other
option -- and I'd like to believe in it -- is to create the final
proposal based on completely public discussion.

Significant difference between the previous attempts to do something
like this is the fact that at least three Board members (Denny,
Dariusz and Guy) support something similar to this idea. Previously,
Board was the body which at least passively obstructed the idea. That
means that we have much better chances for success this time.

So, please join the discussion; if you have a different idea as the
whole proposal, write it there, so we could discuss. We could
rearrange the page into the set of relatively coherent proposals and
discuss about the proposals integrally, about their features and
finally find the best possible solution, which would be the product of
as wide as possible consensus.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
I agree with Chris too!
Thank you Chris!

Aubrey.
Il 13/gen/2016 22:32 "Shabab Mustafa"  ha scritto:

> And "thank you" Fæ, for brining this up! [pun intended] [sarcasm alert]
> [weapons down]
>
> Pardon my poor sense of humour, but I couldn't resist! :P
>
> I believe "thank you" and "please" are magic words, specially in voluntary
> works. I agree with Chris.
> On Jan 13, 2016 5:11 PM, "Fæ"  wrote:
>
> > TL;DR
> > Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
> > & goodbyes for our public email lists?
> >
> > BACKGROUND
> > Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
> > year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
> > awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
> > without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
> > notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
> > effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
> > muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.
> >
> > Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
> > a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
> > noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
> > something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
> > part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
> > equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
> > don't get flagged in recent changes.
> >
> > This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
> > was aiming for.
> >
> > PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
> > online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> > ...
> > > I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
> > > Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board
> for
> > > the time and effort they have spent.
> > >
> > >- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
> > mistake
> > >caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
> > >
> > > I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
> > ...
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Shabab Mustafa
And "thank you" Fæ, for brining this up! [pun intended] [sarcasm alert]
[weapons down]

Pardon my poor sense of humour, but I couldn't resist! :P

I believe "thank you" and "please" are magic words, specially in voluntary
works. I agree with Chris.
On Jan 13, 2016 5:11 PM, "Fæ"  wrote:

> TL;DR
> Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
> & goodbyes for our public email lists?
>
> BACKGROUND
> Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
> year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
> awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
> without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
> notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
> effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
> muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.
>
> Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
> a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
> noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
> something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
> part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
> equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
> don't get flagged in recent changes.
>
> This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
> was aiming for.
>
> PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
> online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
>
> Fae
>
> On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> ...
> > I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
> > Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board for
> > the time and effort they have spent.
> >
> >- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
> mistake
> >caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
> >
> > I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
> ...
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chris Keating 
wrote:
>
> To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in
> the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't
> rule these emails out.
>
> After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain little
> information then pile-on negative threads with equally little information
> will probably still remain.

+1
I would much rather filter outrage spam :-) There is more of it, and unlike
thanks, it tends to have a demoralizing effect.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning

2016-01-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:

> On 2016-01-13 06:06, rupert THURNER wrote:
>
> Interesting summary,  what are the three major outcomes of this plan, and
>> one example what should not have gone into the plan?
>>
>
> anybody can do it


I agree! :) I enjoyed seeing your reflections, and would love to hear from
more people on this. (For what it's worth, here's the summary of the
Strategic Plan

.)

My own take on Rupert's (excellent) question:

== Three major outcomes ==
1. It helped many Wikimedians (and I count myself among them) develop a
much stronger understanding of what our international, and multi-project,
world looks like. Hearing ideas -- whether new or familiar -- from
Wikimedians from different countries, different languages, different
projects -- was very refreshing, and having it done in a context that
invited conversation and deliberation made it very "real." 2009-10 were the
years my perspective on Wikimedia substantially shifted from Oregon to
international (though working at the WMF in that time was also a major
contribution). I suspect this is true of many of us.

2. Building on #1, we developed a great deal of capacity for shared
strategic thinking. Taking part in strategic discussions, in a mode outside
the drama or excitement of the day, established lines of communication that
still exist, and are still actively used. Much of what I see is in the
volunteer world; but I also suspect the process greatly informed the
grant-giving arms of the WMF, which were formalized in the wake of the
process. I'd be very interested to hear from Asaf, Siko, and others from
the grants programs on this.

3. It generally gave the WMF, and all organizations and people wanting to
broadly serve or address the Wikimedia community, a better understanding of
who they're talking to, and what goals and values are widely held. Whether
or not one makes explicit reference to the five strategic goals, having a
sense of what they are is a powerful conceptual tool. This, in particular,
has certainly found its way into the grant-giving programs, and perhaps
other areas of WMF's operations.

== What should not have gone in the plan? ==
In hindsight, the plan has one significant flaw (which I blogged about
 during the Board
Election). Philippe Beaudette, recently quoted in Liam Wyatt's blog post
, said: "The
Wikimedia Foundation has one unique strategic asset: the editing community."

The following "Virtuous Circle graphic was produced by the strategic
planning process (hey, look at me, I'm an ASCII artist!). It's purpose is
to show what dynamics drive Wikimedia's continuous improvement:

  Y  -->
 TR
I  E
   LA
  A  C
 U [[ ? ]]H
Q
  |
 ^   v
  \ PARTICIPATION

In the original, it had "infrastructure" in the middle, i.e. technical
infrastructure.

The graphic is accurate. But (to summarize my blog post briefly) it does
not capture what is UNIQUE about Wikimedia. In fact, almost EVERY major web
site -- at least the social ones like Facebook, eBay, etc. -- has a
technical core that supports a cycle of improving/increasing content,
reach, and participation.

Wikimedia should have something social in the middle. You can still call it
infrastructure -- in an important way, it is -- but it should be "volunteer
infrastructure" or "community infrastructure."

That would help us better contemplate the thing that makes us unique, and
the thing that must be protected and nourished if we're going to help all
of humanity engage with all knowledge.

That's something we should address this side around. Technology pervades
all parts of this diagram -- but it should be contemplated in the ways it
impacts groups of people working in the system, not the other way around.

-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2016 - Registration closes in two days!

2016-01-13 Thread Daniela Gentner
Dear Wikimedians,

The deadline to register for the Wikimedia Conference 2016 closes in two days!

For getting into the mood and to enhance the anticipation for the
conference, please review the current list of participants [1].

Today we have 44 affiliations whose representatives have registered
for the conference.

Registration from the following affiliations are still missing:

=Chapters=
- Wikimedia Argentina
- Wikimedia Canada
- Wikimedia Chile
- Wikimedia Eesti
- Wikimedia Israel
- Wikimedia India
- Wikimedia Italia
- Wikimedia México
- Wikimedia Portugal
- Wikimedia Sverige
- Wikimedia Taiwan
- Wikimedia Ukraine
- Wikimedia District of Columbia
- Wikimedia New York City
- Wikimedia Uruguay

=User Groups=
- Azerbaijani Wikimedians User Group
- Cascadia Wikimedians User Group
- Egypt Wikimedians User Group
- MediaWiki Farmers User Group
- New England Wikimedians
- North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians
- PhilWiki Community
- Wiki Project Med
- Wikimedia Community Brazilian Group of Education and Research
- Wikimedia Community Ireland User Group
- Wikimedia Community User Group Belarus
- Wikimedia Community User Group Georgia
- Wikimedia Digitization User Group
- Wikimedia LGBT
- Wikimedia User Group China
- Wikimedians of Albanian Language User Group
- Wikimedians of Bashkortostan User Group
- Wikimedians of Bulgaria User Group
- Wikimedians of Iceland User Group
- Wikimujeres

=Movement Partners=
- Wiki Education Foundation
- Centre for Internet & Society - Access to Knowledge Program

For further information, please visit meta [2].

You can reach out to us any time via wm...@wikimedia.de should you
have any questions or comments.

Best regards,

Wenke and Daniela

Wikimedia Deutschland

[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016/Participants%27_List
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On 2016-01-13 16:32, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Milos Rancic  
wrote:





I think it is a good idea to have a sort of community council. To give
credit, Guy Kawasaki just recently proposed something along these lines 
in
internal discussions. My first take is that it would be good to have 
some
representation and governance of our movement, not just WMF. It would 
make
everyone's lives easier, too - it would be easier to consult, seek 
advise,

etc.

I've been also thinking about revitalizing our Advisory Board - the way 
I
would like to see it would be dividing it into (a) community (b) tech 
and
(c) academic subgroups, available for immediate consulting and 
feedback.


This definitely does not collide with the idea of a community council 
in
the form that you're proposing, I think. It is worth further 
discussion.

Should it be continued on meta?

dj


Hi Dariusz,

there have been several discussions over the years, and those which I 
remember (the first one was Lodewijk's proposal in 2008? 2009?) were 
either rejected/not endorsed by the board, or got stalled on meta with 
no consensus. My impression is therefore that some sort of a preparatory 
work is needed to avoid these two traps. Ideally, there would be a 
drafting group with a broad representation (possibly the members of the 
group will be prohibited to sit in the first edition of the elected 
body), and the Board will preliminary express an interest (so that the 
group knows the chances are not zero). Of course we can just agree on 
electing the representative body witout actually asking the Board, but I 
am not sure this would be the right way of doing it.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-13 Thread Pharos
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Milos Rancic  wrote:
>
> > Denny, thanks for supporting this issue moving on. Before few remarks
> > I would respond inline, I want to say that the *draft* of the idea to
> > make community assembly have been published by Pharos:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_Council_Compact
>
>
>
> I think it is a good idea to have a sort of community council. To give
> credit, Guy Kawasaki just recently proposed something along these lines in
> internal discussions. My first take is that it would be good to have some
> representation and governance of our movement, not just WMF. It would make
> everyone's lives easier, too - it would be easier to consult, seek advise,
> etc.
>
> I've been also thinking about revitalizing our Advisory Board - the way I
> would like to see it would be dividing it into (a) community (b) tech and
> (c) academic subgroups, available for immediate consulting and feedback.
>
> This definitely does not collide with the idea of a community council in
> the form that you're proposing, I think. It is worth further discussion.
> Should it be continued on meta?
>

Yes, we'd welcome folks to read the proposal on meta at:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_Council_Compact

Sign up there if you like the basic idea, and offer comments and
improvements at:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Community_Council_Compact

Thanks,
Pharos
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Milos Rancic  wrote:

> Denny, thanks for supporting this issue moving on. Before few remarks
> I would respond inline, I want to say that the *draft* of the idea to
> make community assembly have been published by Pharos:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_Council_Compact



I think it is a good idea to have a sort of community council. To give
credit, Guy Kawasaki just recently proposed something along these lines in
internal discussions. My first take is that it would be good to have some
representation and governance of our movement, not just WMF. It would make
everyone's lives easier, too - it would be easier to consult, seek advise,
etc.

I've been also thinking about revitalizing our Advisory Board - the way I
would like to see it would be dividing it into (a) community (b) tech and
(c) academic subgroups, available for immediate consulting and feedback.

This definitely does not collide with the idea of a community council in
the form that you're proposing, I think. It is worth further discussion.
Should it be continued on meta?

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
+1 from me too, and to not be spammy myself, I'll add:

one very appropriate way to do welcomes and thanks is *on-wiki*.  Notes
welcoming people (or announcing new boards etc.) should, as a matter of
habit, include a wiki URL (the user's page, or the affiliate's page, etc.),
where people would be invited to leave thank/welcome notes. People
interested in others' messages could watchlist the page, or read the
accumulated messages all at once, and the list would be quieter.

   A.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:06 AM, MF-Warburg 
wrote:

> As a mostly silent reader of this list, I'd like to spammingly +1 this
> message. There's hardly anything more superfluous than these "Welcome from
> Wikimedia Schleswig-Holstein as well" mails.
> Am 13.01.2016 12:12 schrieb "Fæ" :
>
> > TL;DR
> > Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
> > & goodbyes for our public email lists?
> >
> > BACKGROUND
> > Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
> > year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
> > awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
> > without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
> > notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
> > effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
> > muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.
> >
> > Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
> > a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
> > noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
> > something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
> > part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
> > equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
> > don't get flagged in recent changes.
> >
> > This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
> > was aiming for.
> >
> > PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
> > online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> > ...
> > > I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
> > > Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board
> for
> > > the time and effort they have spent.
> > >
> > >- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
> > mistake
> > >caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
> > >
> > > I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
> > ...
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Strategic planning

2016-01-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On 2016-01-13 06:06, rupert THURNER wrote:


Interesting summary,  what are the three major outcomes of this plan, 
and

one example what should not have gone into the plan?



I do not know. It was six years ago after all, and I was not involved in 
drafting of the final plan. I can of course re-read it and see what in 
the end of the day was a good idea and what was not really a good idea, 
but anybody can do it, I am in no way special. There were over a hundred 
barnstars sent around if I remember correctly, and most of those people 
are still around somewhere in the movement (though not necessarily in 
the same roles as six years ago - me not being an exception).


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-13 Thread
Dear Patricio Lorente,

My open letter to the board was six days ago. Could you please take
the following three actions?

1. Acknowledge my open letter sent to you and the board and its
request. This is a courtesy I would expect of the WMF board chair that
needs no discussion or trustee decision making, and is expected within
a day or two, not a week or more.

2. A week has past, so there can be no doubt that you have set a
timetable for talking with Geshuri and for the board of trustees to
make a joint decision as to whether he is fit to remain a trustee.
Please make your timetable public, so that the community is reassured
that formal communications such as this letter to the board are not a
waste of time, and that the WMF chair is not only aware of community
concerns but is taking these questions seriously.

3. Please publish the work-flow of when and how the nomination for
Geshuri came to the board, and make that information public rather
than leaving it to speculation and pundits. Trustee appointments are a
key part of your governance responsibilities and are so fundamental to
confidence in the WMF there is no excuse to keep basic details a
secret. This should include who recommended Geshuri to the board,
there can be no reasons of confidentiality that apply apart from the
personal embarrassment that may arise from poor judgement, and is of
clear public interest if a trustee or past trustee made the
recommendation.

I look forward to seeing you personally take open and transparent
action rather than only acting in secret or through others with
plausible deniability.

Yours sincerely,
Fae

On 7 January 2016 at 10:38, Fæ  wrote:
> Dear Patricio Lorente,
>
> I request that the WMF board take immediate action to publish a
> comprehensive account of why you appointed Geshuri as a trustee,
> despite his direct involvement and being named as a defendant in the
> on-going scandal of anticompetitive agreements at Google, or that
> Geshuri chooses to step down from his new position of trust.
>
> This is being separated out as an open letter to the board in a new
> discussion thread, to avoid getting confused with other issues. In the
> light of recent challenges to the WMF with regard to a dramatic loss
> of confidence in their senior management and the politicking behind
> the loss of James Heilman as a trustee openly advocating for
> transparency to the actions of the WMF board, Geshuri's background
> with anticompetitive practices can only damage confidence in the WMF
> board with regard to their duty to hold WMF senior management to
> account and acting with the highest possible accountability and public
> transparency.
>
> Links showing Geshuri's public footprint on this issue:
> 1. 
> http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/27/2753701/no-poach-scandal-unredacted-steve-jobs-eric-schmidt-paul-otellini
> 2. 
> http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Antitrust/Apple-Google-Silicon-Valley-No-Cold-Calling.shtml
> 3. 
> http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/03/23/google-shareholders-miffed-over-wage-fight.htm
> 4. 
> https://www.quora.com/How-is-Arnnon-Geshuri-current-VP-HR-at-Tesla-and-former-chief-architect-of-staffing-at-Google-good-at-what-he-does
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Fae
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Andrew Green 
> Date: 7 January 2016 at 08:58
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing new Wikimedia Foundation Trustees
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Interesting to note Arnnon's role in the Silicon Valley anti-poaching
> affair: 
> http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/27/2753701/no-poach-scandal-unredacted-steve-jobs-eric-schmidt-paul-otellini
>
> - Andrew
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:

>
> there have been several discussions over the years, and those which I
> remember (the first one was Lodewijk's proposal in 2008? 2009?) were either
> rejected/not endorsed by the board, or got stalled on meta with no
> consensus.


I remember some dating back to 2005. But it does not mean the situation has
not matured since.




> My impression is therefore that some sort of a preparatory work is needed
> to avoid these two traps. Ideally, there would be a drafting group with a
> broad representation (possibly the members of the group will be prohibited
> to sit in the first edition of the elected body), and the Board will
> preliminary express an interest (so that the group knows the chances are
> not zero). Of course we can just agree on electing the representative body
> witout actually asking the Board, but I am not sure this would be the right
> way of doing it.
>
>
Agreed. A mixed working group could be a way to go.

dj
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
The drawback is that not everyone has the inclination to read everything on
Meta as well. At some stage it is just too much. By insisting on silence,
the silence may become overwhelming and it increases the notion that this
list is only for polical tigers.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 13 January 2016 at 18:00, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> +1 from me too, and to not be spammy myself, I'll add:
>
> one very appropriate way to do welcomes and thanks is *on-wiki*.  Notes
> welcoming people (or announcing new boards etc.) should, as a matter of
> habit, include a wiki URL (the user's page, or the affiliate's page, etc.),
> where people would be invited to leave thank/welcome notes. People
> interested in others' messages could watchlist the page, or read the
> accumulated messages all at once, and the list would be quieter.
>
>A.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:06 AM, MF-Warburg 
> wrote:
>
> > As a mostly silent reader of this list, I'd like to spammingly +1 this
> > message. There's hardly anything more superfluous than these "Welcome
> from
> > Wikimedia Schleswig-Holstein as well" mails.
> > Am 13.01.2016 12:12 schrieb "Fæ" :
> >
> > > TL;DR
> > > Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos
> > > & goodbyes for our public email lists?
> > >
> > > BACKGROUND
> > > Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a
> > > year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an
> > > awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and goodbyes
> > > without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email
> > > notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the
> > > effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically
> > > muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile phone.
> > >
> > > Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than making
> > > a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be
> > > noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists
> > > something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic
> > > part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute them;
> > > equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they
> > > don't get flagged in recent changes.
> > >
> > > This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he
> > > was aiming for.
> > >
> > > PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this
> > > online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
> > >
> > > Fae
> > >
> > > On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same board
> > for
> > > > the time and effort they have spent.
> > > >
> > > >- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
> > > mistake
> > > >caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
> > > ...
> > > --
> > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > >
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