Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Magnus developed functionality to replace the "red links". Arguably replacing wikilinks with Wikidata in the background will improve Wikipedia (in any language) substantially. It is just not considered. Thanks, GerardM

[Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
I found http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/670044 Just FYI for all those who don't read all mailinglists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHlksSfMEE ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Jens Best
Hi, thanks Andrew for bringing Magnus' words into the mailinglist-discussion. I would like to balance the direct critic made by Magnus with an attempt to differentiate the matter at hand a bit. The obvious attempt to frame "the community" as conservative and not open to changes is a clever

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The documentary film of Wikimedia Argentina now available. Happy birthday Wikipedia!

2016-01-18 Thread Jens Best
Hi Yury, attached the srt-file. If you use the timecode one to one, please check if it matches every line in the new language. Sometimes timecodes have to be adopted because of different "flow" of reading in different languages. Best, Jens 2016-01-16 12:26 GMT+01:00 Yury Bulka

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm waiting for the day when Magnus will have a profile on the New Yorker, but this is nice, for the time being :-) Aubrey On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Andrew Lih wrote: > There’s an excellent profile of Magnus Manske in the Wikimedia blog today. > It’s hard to think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi, This proposal can fit well into Wikisource and Wikibooks. I dont think, another new domain is needed for this purpose. Regards, Bodhisattwa On 17 January 2016 at 08:17, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have proposed a new Wikimedia project on Meta. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Yeah, I do think the same as well. Wikisource is a good option for that. Regards, Tanweer Morshed On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal < bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This proposal can fit well into Wikisource and Wikibooks. I dont think, > another new domain is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Isaac David
Le lun. 18 janv. 2016 à 3:17, Andrea Zanni a écrit : On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman wrote: Nor am I concerned that our information might be used by people who oppose our principles. We ask just the same of our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Workshop for student of Fountain University

2016-01-18 Thread Anthony Cole
That's excellent news Olatunde Isaac! Well done, and thanks for letting us know. Congratulations Olatunde and others who were involved with the effort! On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:33 AM, olatunde isaac wrote: > Dear all, > On behalf of WUGN, this is to congratulate all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman wrote: > Nor am I concerned that our information might be used by people who oppose > our > principles. We ask just the same of our contributors--that the information > they contribute may be used for ''any'' purpose. > My

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread David Goodman
Our users are the world in general; the decision not to make our license -NC is a basic part of our fundamental understanding. If were were asked by a commercial entity to provide a service beyond what we could afford, then I can see the need for some sort of arrangement, for it is better to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Mitar
Hi! I think this conversation is diverging from the question of the *service* we should offer to others to licensing of the content. Licensing does not say anything about the service one should offer for the content. Any service, any API, is more or less something one does extra on top of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The documentary film of Wikimedia Argentina now available. Happy birthday Wikipedia!

2016-01-18 Thread Vira Motorko
Just for the interest of those who will translate - a Commons page with subtitles already exists https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:Soy_Wikipedista.webm.en.srt ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
in regards to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilore On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote: > 2016-01-18 16:37 GMT+01:00 Tanweer Morshed : >> Yeah, I do think the same as well. Wikisource is a good option for that. > > It could be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Pine W
After the assertion "From the Media Viewer, the Visual Editor, to Wikidata transclusion, all have been resisted by vocal groups of editors, not because they are a problem, but because they represent change," I would suggest a very large "citation needed" tag. Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread David Goodman
Although "Tech innovations which try to replace quality human editing are not a good idea." Tech innovations which can adequately replace the need for quality human editing when that editing is not sufficiently available can be a very good idea, So can tech innovations which try can assist low

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Mitar
Hi! Please see below the reply by Rob from MusicBrainz (forwarding because he is not on the mailing list): > On Jan 17, 2016, at 04:51, Mitar wrote: > > I would suggest that anyone interested in monetizing APIs check how > MusicBrainz (https://musicbrainz.org/) is doing it. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 January 2016 at 13:34, Andrew Lih wrote: > There’s an excellent profile of Magnus Manske in the Wikimedia blog today. > It’s hard to think of people more important to the movement than Magnus has > been since 2001. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You accuse Wikidata of something. That is ok. However, it helps when it is clear what problems you see. When Wikidata was introduced, it improved quality of interwiki links in a meaningful way. Most Wikipedians do not care about such links so it was an easy and obvious improvement. Similar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for New Project - Wikilore

2016-01-18 Thread Johan Jönsson
2016-01-18 16:37 GMT+01:00 Tanweer Morshed : > Yeah, I do think the same as well. Wikisource is a good option for that. It could be that the Wikisources I'm familiar with are the exceptions, but they tend to be very vary of material that has never been published, and this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Isaac David wrote: > > Le lun. 18 janv. 2016 à 3:17, Andrea Zanni a > écrit : >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman wrote: >> >>> Nor am I concerned that our information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Risker
Thank you for flagging this for us, Andrew. I have been unsuccessful in accessing this page and have been told by others who tried to do so that they were also getting various error messages. I will try again later using different technology - the problem may be that the blog doesn't come up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Andrew Lih
I cannot speak for Magnus, but there’s a distinction that needs to be made: Writing, “… all have been resisted by vocal groups of editors, not because they are a problem, but because they represent change” is not maligning all editors who complain. It simply says that those who resist innovation

[Wikimedia-l] Launch of Community Consultation on strategic approaches

2016-01-18 Thread Lila Tretikov
Dear Wikimedians, We are excited to have you participate in an important Community Engagement regarding our strategic approaches. This is a major step to help us prioritize the work of the Foundation beginning in July 2016 and running for the next 12 to 24 months thereafter into a strategic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Community Consultation on strategic approaches

2016-01-18 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Many thanks, Lila - this is a good step in our joint conceptualizing, where we want to go. I'm glad we've made it this year, in spite of a tight schedule. dj On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Lila Tretikov wrote: > Dear Wikimedians, > > > > We are excited to have you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
The iPhone was a commercial success because it let you do the basic functions easily and intuitively, and looked shiny at the same time. We do not charge a price; our "win" comes by people using our product. If we can present the product in such a way that more people use it, it is a success for

[Wikimedia-l] How to disseminate free knowledge? Was: Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Jens Best
Hi Magnus, thanks for bringing yourself into the discussion. I agree on several aspects you point out in the first half of your mail about improvements, expectations and "prominent subgroups". When it comes to re-emphasize this "castle"-narrative, I had the feeling you wanna connect reasonable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Community Consultation on strategic approaches

2016-01-18 Thread Pine W
Hi Lila, A few questions: 1. What is the URL for the 2016 consultation? 2. You wrote, "This is a major step to help us prioritize the work of the Foundation beginning in July 2016 and running for the next 12 to 24 months thereafter into a strategic plan." It seems that there will be some

[Wikimedia-l] answers to community consultation questions

2016-01-18 Thread James Salsman
Re https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Strategy/Community_consultation#The_questions and given https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Strategy_consultation_qualitative_comment_categories.png was already published from previous answers, I prefer to answer here: > What major trends would you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2016 at 20:33, Magnus Manske wrote: > * New things are not necessarily good just because they are new. What seems > to be an improvement, especially for a technical mind, can be a huge step > backwards for the "general population". On the other hand,

[Wikimedia-l] Distinction between service and content (Re: Monetizing Wikimedia APIs)

2016-01-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, Splitting the thread off to avoid hijacking it On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Mitar wrote: > I think this conversation is diverging from the question of the > *service* we should offer to others to licensing of the content. > Licensing does not say anything

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Michael Peel
> On 18 Jan 2016, at 22:35, Magnus Manske wrote: > > As one can be overly conservative, one can also be overly enthusiastic. I > would hope the Foundation by now understands better how to handle new > software releases. Apple here shows the way: Basic functionality,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
As one can be overly conservative, one can also be overly enthusiastic. I would hope the Foundation by now understands better how to handle new software releases. Apple here shows the way: Basic functionality, but working smoothly first. That said, problems are to be expected, and a new Wikitext

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
OK, long thread, I'll try to answer in one here... * I've been writing code for over thirty years now, so I'm the first to say that technology in not "the" answer to social or structural issues. It can, however, mitigate some of those issues, or at least show new ways of dealing with them * New