Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to disseminate free knowledge? Was: Profile of Magnus Manske

Hoi, You do not offend but worse you do not convince because your arguments fail. What we have always done is "share in the sum of all knowledge" and to you that is wrong. You use gobbledygook like "techbubble" and your vision is one of community. Fine. You do not define community in any other way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to disseminate free knowledge? Was: Profile of Magnus Manske

Hoi, http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikidata-william-anthony-phd.html Thanks, GerardM On 19 January 2016 at 10:35, Peter Southwood wrote: > Which William Anthony? > There is an article on Wikipedia about one of them. > P > > -Original

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to disseminate free knowledge? Was: Profile of Magnus Manske

Thanks, I have no opinion on this one. Cheers, P -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2016 12:49 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to disseminate free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Informative discussion. Thank you all. I knew the history here, but seeing it come alive from these various perspectives further clarified that history for me. Thank you. /a On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > Magnus, regarding, "...at some point, you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The documentary film of Wikimedia Argentina now available. Happy birthday Wikipedia!

Will someone Spanish-speaking write down Spanish subtitles as well? It would be great! Do it here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:Soy_Wikipedista.webm.es.srt My deepest thanks =) *--* *Vira Motorko*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

As it happens, I now like both VE and Image Viewer as optional features. I didn't appreciate how they were deployed. The constitutional crisis that WMF created by using Superprotect to force Image VIewer on the communities was arrogant, disproportionate, politically unwise, and wasteful. Although

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Once the VisualEditor was fit for purpose and a good deployment strategy had been developed, the English Wikipedia community overwhelmingly supported rolling it out. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_125#Gradually_enabling_VisualEditor_for_new_accounts )

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Community Consultation on strategic approaches

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Pine W wrote: > 2. You wrote, "This is a major step to help us prioritize the work of the > Foundation beginning in July 2016 and running for the next 12 to 24 months > thereafter into a strategic plan." It seems that there will be some

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Office hour regarding "Motivational and educational video to introduce Wikimedia"

Cross-posting. -- Forwarded message -- From: Pine W Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:03 PM Subject: Office hour regarding "Motivational and educational video to introduce Wikimedia" Hi all, I will have an office hour regarding the development of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Magnus, you've missed the point of the visual editor revolt. A couple of people here have tried to explain that to you, politely. And you're persisting with your idée fixe. There were two parts to the visual editor catastrophe, actually. The product wasn't ready for anyone to use. Not veteran

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > Magnus, you've missed the point of the visual editor revolt. A couple of > people here have tried to explain that to you, politely. And you're > persisting with your idée fixe. > To be fair, Magnus was addressing more

[Wikimedia-l] A page about new editors in different projects

Hi, In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a page [1] that highlights editors who recently became active - shows a short interview with them and welcomes them to the community in a nice way. It's not so much a help and a support page like English Wikipedia, but more like a newsletter or a blog that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Anthony, it does seem you've missed some of which I wrote in this thread. I have no problem with specific criticism where it is deserved, and I do well remember that the Visual Editor, in its early incarnation, was not quite up to the job. What I do have a problem with is people fixating on some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Mitar wrote: > Hi! > > Please see below the reply by Rob from MusicBrainz (forwarding because > he is not on the mailing list): > > [...] > There is no requirement for supporting us, but we're quick to > point out that a company that makes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

Mozilla and OKFN are both using it with solid success. Anyone have (other, smaller) lists they might volunteer to experiment with first, assuming I can convince engineering (or maybe Discourse.com) to host an instance? Luis On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Alice Wiegand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Magnus, in the interview you said "From the Media Viewer, the Visual Editor, to Wikidata transclusion, all have been resisted by vocal groups of editors, not because they are a problem, but because they represent change. For these editors, the site has worked fine for years; why change anything?"

[Wikimedia-l] Call for nominations! Steward Elections 2016

Hello everyone, I am pleased to announce the Steward Elections 2016 [1]. We are now taking nominations from eligible candidates. Interested candidates can check their eligibility and procedure to submit the nomination on the guidelines page [2]. We are open to candidate submissions till January

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:40 PM Anthony Cole wrote: > Magnus, in the interview you said "From the Media Viewer, the Visual > Editor, to Wikidata transclusion, all have been resisted by vocal groups of > editors, not because they are a problem, but because they represent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:40 PM Anthony Cole wrote: > > > I notice VE isn't even an option when I log out and edit en.Wikipedia, > yet > > above others are saying it is much improved and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Excellent. Seems funny it's not the default for IPs. Anthony Cole On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:21 AM, Andrew Lih wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Magnus Manske < > magnusman...@googlemail.com > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:40 PM Anthony Cole

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Magnus, regarding, "...at some point, you have to leave the test environment, and test your product against reality." Of course. But VE was far, far too bad for real time when it was released. Really. It was driving newbies away. The sensible embracers-of-change threw it out, in the end. The