Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Lodewijk
Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any mailing list of some size would do. Lodewijk On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Erik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea > pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be > an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread rupert THURNER
lol This is why “Nonprofit: The Musical” will have, as one of its characters, a consultant robot, whose only job is to repeat exactly what an internal staff or board member says; the difference is that the robot actually gets listened to. On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Pine W

[Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
Hello readers of wikimedia-l, One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Thyge
2016-02-07 19:10 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% > written by volunteers. That's simply false. I find that point of view entirely wrong. The WMF does not pay anybody to edit, so editors are volunteers. I might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Pine W
A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% written by volunteers. That's simply false. Wikipedia is written by individuals with a mix of motives, and for some people those motives include financial compensation. Diverging a little into the topic of paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is your intention, to be "right" at all cost? Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2016 at 00:04, Pine W wrote: > The fact that someone is not paid *by WMF* to edit does not mean that they > are a volunteer. That would be like saying that a newspaper salesperson >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gnangarra
Some Wikipedians in Residence also get paid for their work, saying "Wikipedia is written by volunteers" is honest and doesnt have the puffary of 100%. As a community we are working to create more activities, projects and partnerships with GLAM where the people participating are being paid to edit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Pine W
The fact that someone is not paid *by WMF* to edit does not mean that they are a volunteer. That would be like saying that a newspaper salesperson standing at the door of a grocery store is a volunteer because he is not paid by the grocer and instead paid by the newspaper. As with paid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"

2016-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It would be a travesty when a "Wikipedian in residence" is paid only to write articles. In my honest opinion, I doubt that they have much time to write themselves. This whole negativity that this thread is part of indicates how sick the "community" is because it is not the "community", it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-07 Thread Ruslan Takayev
Chris, et al Ruslan - what makes you think the two issues are connected? > James was pushing for greater transparency on the BoT. This is the one major issue that arose during James on the board that wasn't transparent at the time. You can put 2 + 2 together from that. > I have heard nothing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-02-07 Thread Tim Starling
On 07/02/16 09:41, Chris Keating wrote: >> >> >> I have some one question for you. >> >> I am having a very hard time wrapping my head around how the grant >> information you posted lead to WMF BoT voting James Heilman of the board in >> a vote of no-confidence. >> > > Ruslan - what makes you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Erik Bernhardson
The instance looks to be in a 'SHUTOFF' state, this has happened before (to other instances) for a variety of reasons, such as a vm moving between hosts and something goes wrong. There arn't any labs admins around right now, i'll have one look tomorrow morning and turn it back on. On Sun, Feb 7,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Schilling
Hey Ad, I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error with wmflabs or something specific to Discourse. - Jethro On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven wrote: > Hello readers of

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Program Capacity & Learning consultation

2016-02-07 Thread Pine W
In case others are interested, WMF PC is having a public consultation. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_Capacity_and_Learning Subjects that are under discussion include the PC "criteria " as well as: - 1 Programs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Àlex Hinojo
+1 502 to me also 2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling : > Hey Ad, > > I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error with > wmflabs or something specific to Discourse. > > - Jethro >