Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Gnangarra
in breaking up (spinning parts off) the WMF we run the risk of creating silos of information, knowledge and disconnecting one speciality from another preventing cross pollination of ideas and innovation. It also breaks the collaborative core of the projects which has created what we enjoy and at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-19 Thread
On 16 March 2016 at 12:17, Andreas Kolbe wrote: ... > If Jimmy is not forthcoming on the above by John Vandenberg, I suggest we > start a public vote of no confidence for him, as we did for Arnnon. It has > gone on long enough. ... There is no excuse for a $100m/year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OpenAccess] New Free Research Accounts via the Wikipedia Library

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 March 2016 at 20:43, Jake Orlowitz wrote: > Alexander Street (Educational videos and documentaries including PBS & BBC) > Did this come about as a result of my conversation with them in Melbourne? I ask because

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disabe Media Viewer for non-logged-in users and logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons

2016-03-19 Thread Gilles Dubuc
Steinsplitter, if you're interested in reviving this, please have the intellectual honesty of running the RfC again and publicizing it widely. As others already pointed out, the context of that RfC is nothing like today. Not only Media Viewer itself changed a lot, with many fixes based on direct

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-03-17 22:54 GMT-07:00 Pine W : > I agree that these options should be explored. I'm wondering what the best > way would be to facilitate this conversation. > > Perhaps, Erik, would you be willing to set up a page on Meta for discussion? Hi Pine, Thanks for the comments!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread David Emrany
Hi Adele Can we have a clear picture of Wikimedia's ‘complicated’ relationship with net neutrality - 1year on from the Washington Post story [1] Can we also have specific figures on how much of WMF's traffic has been lost / gained from key markets in Latin America and Asia after regulators have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Erik, hello Gerard, hello all, while Erik raised a very important topic and I will go into some of the aspects I agree with him later in this mail I want at first say that Gerard also mentioned some very important points that I strongly agree. Splitting WMF has merits but also has

[Wikimedia-l] Facebook updates "community standards" for a "diverse global community"

2016-03-19 Thread Toby Dollmann
Facebook has updated its "community standards" for its 1.4 billion users. Much of it is relevant for WM Commons. "It's a challenge to maintain one set of standards that meets the needs of a diverse global community," said Monika Bickert, Facebook's head of global policy management, and Chris

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia NYC proposal to broaden WMF nominations - submit today

2016-03-19 Thread Pharos
Hi fellow Wikimedians, We held our chapter's public meeting and open vote on March 16, and we found all the ten people running qualified to participate as candidates in the current WMF election. This is part of our chapter's policy to encourage a more diverse and more transparent process for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread George Herbert
> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:41 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: > > at the end it all boils down to > money. spending all money available and wanting more money never has > been a problem. if there is dissent it was always about who has the > say what the money is spent on, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Organising our movement in the format of a federation will not necessarily do what you describe. As you assume that money flows to the places where money is spend, you will not have a federation. A federation is based on equal terms and when money is what keeps everone in line it is not a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-19 Thread Jimmy Wales
I think all will be clear by Monday. Maybe sooner, but I'm not promising any sooner. On 3/10/16 12:13 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:51 AM, SarahSV wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:42 PM, John Mark Vandenberg >> wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2016-03-18 07:56, Erik Moeller wrote: 2016-03-17 22:54 GMT-07:00 Pine W : I agree that these options should be explored. I'm wondering what the best way would be to facilitate this conversation. Perhaps, Erik, would you be willing to set up a page on Meta for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Research showcase: Evolution of privacy loss in Wikipedia

2016-03-19 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Reminder, this showcase is starting in 5 minutes. See the stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xle0oOFCNnk Join us on Freenode at #wikimedia-research to ask Andrei questions. -Aaron On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Dario

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Richard Symonds
Thanks Moushira :-) On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote: > Hello again, > > I see that we have an interesting input here. > > Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in > their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Adam Wight
Erik, thank you for framing this discussion, I think your "Resilience, Focus, Accountability" formula hits on some of the most important ways in which the Wikimedia Foundation has failed. I share the concerns of Sydney and Gerard however, and would like to ask some questions about how a real

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > the notion that WMF might be a more effective > organization if it limited its own size in favor of focused spin-off > organizations and affiliates. > I can see three potential benefits from a more federated model: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Edward Galvez
*WikiEd Foundation Dashboard On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Edward Galvez wrote: > > Hi Itzik - a question for you > > The Education Foundation is also a good example - I spoke a lot with the >> WMF's education team about the great EDUFund's dashboard and how we can >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-03-18 9:01 GMT-07:00 Sydney Poore : Hi Sydney! > Right now the central hub of the global movement is WMF. Despite other > recent problems. The WMF is doing a great job of regularly communicating > about the world wide movement. > > There needs to be a successful

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Edward Galvez
Hi Itzik - a question for you The Education Foundation is also a good example - I spoke a lot with the > WMF's education team about the great EDUFund's dashboard and how we can use > it around the world, not only in the US. It is a powerful tool that the WMF > is not even close or plans to offer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread Vituzzu
Il 19/03/2016 13:57, Gnangarra ha scritto: ​outside the US things like copyright isnt respected, enforced or even part of a person education Not really. We also have the URAA which even Commons has struggled with swings in interpretation over the last few years Definitely a fail of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Research showcase: Evolution of privacy loss in Wikipedia

2016-03-19 Thread SarahSV
Dario and Aaron, thanks for letting us know about this. Is the research available in writing for people who don't want to sit through the video? Sarah On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > Reminder, this showcase is starting in 5 minutes. See the

[Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, Now that the dust has settled a bit, I would like to expand on an idea that’s been touched on a few times (most recently, in an editorial by William Beutler [1]): the notion that WMF might be a more effective organization if it limited its own size in favor of focused spin-off

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread Gnangarra
On 19 March 2016 at 19:30, Benjamin Lees wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > > of course I dont expect > > people to know their copyright laws in detail or to have read them but > they > > do know the principles of it and what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, May I ask on what basis this should be done. Is it not equally relevant to ask yourself how isolated you are in your position? Is this what we need, will it do us any good or is it just that you feel that this is what "we" need ? It is fine for you to spout what you do. However, I am very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Yes Edward, I referred to the WikiEd foundation dashboard. I may gave them another nickname by mistake;) *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Research showcase: Evolution of privacy loss in Wikipedia

2016-03-19 Thread Dario Taraborelli
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:53 PM, SarahSV wrote: > Dario and Aaron, thanks for letting us know about this. Is the research > available in writing for people who don't want to sit through the video? > > Sarah > Sarah – yes, see http://cm.cecs.anu.edu.au/post/wikiprivacy/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > of course I dont expect > people to know their copyright laws in detail or to have read them but they > do know the principles of it and what they can do Are you sure? In the US, at least, industry groups go to a lot of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Erik, thanks for your post, I was thinking of bringing this up as I was part of that very discussion in August / September 2011 when the Wikimedia overall governance model was discussed. The idea that cristalized back then and which I still find very appealing was to split today's WMF into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
Hello again, I see that we have an interesting input here. Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate or jargon Silicon Valley culture, as I simply don't live in the US, and I don't have any corporate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Hi Erik, Those are great ideas, and I'm think I can support most of them. MediaWiki is indeed something we need to invest on much more. Or even re-built it from scratch. It's the base to all our work and the future or our projects. The idea of having an organization that this is 100% of his

[Wikimedia-l] New Free Research Accounts via the Wikipedia Library

2016-03-19 Thread Jake Orlowitz
Hi! The Wikipedia Library has many new, free research donations available: NEW * Cambridge University Press (Major academic book and journals publisher) * Alexander Street (Educational videos and documentaries including PBS & BBC)

[Wikimedia-l] Scholarship Decline

2016-03-19 Thread Vitor Mazuco
Hi everybody! my apply was decline. This is my second time that is decline, and my friend of Brazil goes every year, same users in every year and I never. If do you compare my contribution as long with their, I have much more and my apply is every year decline by WMF. Please, who can help with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Edward Galvez
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > Yes Edward, I referred to the WikiEd foundation dashboard. I may gave them > another nickname by mistake;) > Well then - It's a good time to share that our team (Program Capacity & Learning), with the

[Wikimedia-l] Candidature for the European Commission Open Science Policy Platform

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Dear all, the European Commission is setting up an advisory group for its Open Science Agenda: https://ec.europa.eu/research/openscience/index.cfm?pg=open-science-policy-platform This group - called 'Open Science Policy Platform' (OSPP) - has an open call for candidates, and I am amongst those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread Sydney Poore
Hello Erik, I don't disagree with the premise of your argument that an alternative structure of the wikimedia movement would let some parts of the wikimedia movement grow stronger and more effective in delivering a focused impact. There is no doubt that North America could be self sustaining

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia NYC proposal to broaden WMF nominations - submit today

2016-03-19 Thread Samuel Klein
I really appreciated your public effort, it also made the whole process much clearer to those of us not part of a single regional chapter. SJ On Mar 18, 2016 14:03, "Pharos" wrote: > Hi fellow Wikimedians, > > We held our chapter's public meeting and open vote on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:13 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:51 AM, SarahSV wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:42 PM, John Mark Vandenberg > > wrote: > >> Are we still waiting for Jimmy to

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread Lucas Teles
Hi, everyone. It is being recently reported on Portuguese Wikipedia and Commons (at least) the increasing ammount of improper editing coming from IP addresses located in Angola. Some users believe that this may be related with Wikipedia Zero and a partnership between WMF and a cellphone company

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
Hello everyone , I agree with Fae and Craig, It's foreign jargon especially in this context , and on top of that jargon form a professional background where the term has been misused (imho) It has in my jargon the connotation of obsessively recurring idea , like a depressed patient always

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Oliver Keyes
While I agree with people that it's an uncommon and exclusionary phrase (and a confusing one!) it seems like Moushira fully acknowledges this and is going to work harder on this sort of problem in the future, for which I laud her. If we want to have a general conversation about language choice at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-19 Thread George Herbert
I think these are interesting discussions. My first feedback - Let's get as granular as possible about describing activities undertaken now. Leave out the "by who" and org structure for the moment. For example, I can even see five tech organization activities. Internal IT, website ops, back

Re: [Wikimedia-l] any open search engine for web project starting

2016-03-19 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-03-18 21:44 GMT-07:00 SarahSV : > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 5:17 PM, carl hansen > wrote: > >> https://about.commonsearch.org/ >> >> "We are building a nonprofit search engine for the Web" >> >> Sounds alot like Knowledge Engine, if there were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-19 Thread Adele Vrana
Hi Teles, As the head of the Wikipedia Zero program, I would like to respond and provide more context to the important challenges you are bringing up. Last year, the Foundation increased our security and privacy by requiring HTTPS to access all Wikimedia projects. That change has greatly