Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:57 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On 21 March 2016 at 22:47, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > > > The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off > services > > that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

2016-03-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
See also: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles#Freedom_and_open_source https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FLOSS-Exchange On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 2016-03-21 6:15 PM, James Salsman wrote: >> >>

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-21 Thread Lucas Teles
WereSpielChequers, the different varieties of Portuguese is not the problem here. It actually hasn't been a problem for a while. :))) James and Adele, I am sincerely happy to know that WMF is not only aware of it but also applying and thinking about measures to solve the problem. Maybe opening

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread K. Peachey
On 21 March 2016 at 22:47, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off services > that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a shop would be, > like the blog, OTRS, etc) tend to be *extremely* expensive and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

2016-03-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-03-21 6:15 PM, James Salsman wrote: Is there a list of equipment that WMF uses without viable FLOSS alternatives, please? The switches and routers for one; as far as I know, high-end networking hardware is not available with Libre OSes, nor would the supplier support one flashed with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

2016-03-21 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 3/22/16 12:15 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Is there a list of equipment that WMF uses without viable FLOSS > alternatives, please? Since the context here is t-shirts, I think we can understand Coren's remarks in a very broad context, and so of course he's right. We might choose to only do

[Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

2016-03-21 Thread James Salsman
Marc *Pelletier / Coren* wrote: > I don't think it's reasonable to expect that every external supplier > is all-FLOSS. For one, the movement would be pretty much stuck > without hardware, networking gear, and power at the very least. Is there a list of equipment that WMF uses without viable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-21 Thread George Herbert
> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > > in breaking up (spinning parts off) the WMF we run the risk of creating > silos of information, knowledge and disconnecting one speciality from > another preventing cross pollination of ideas and innovation. It also >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Lisa Gruwell
Adding my thoughts to build upon what Seddon has already said: The store is not the most mission critical work that we do, but it is working well. It is good to have people wearing Wikipedia t-shirts out there and to meet the need of the people who want to purchase Wikimedia merch. It is also a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Vi to
Above all hosting a shop means: *production on demand: no "risks" but products become more expensive and slow to deliver *warehousing: means immobilizing a certain amount of money at the risk to accumulate unsold items. IMHO an internal shop would be justified by turnover at least 10 times greater

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Erik Moeller writes: > == Potential test case: MediaWiki Foundation == > > A "MediaWiki Foundation" has been proposed a few times and I > suspect continues to have some currency within WMF. This past January at the Developer Summit[1], there was an unconference session for a meeting between the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Joseph Seddon
Steinsplitter, There has been and continues to be a long standing desire from volunteers and donors to get merchandise whether through events, competitions, giveaways or purchasing. The fact we get 1000+ orders or so a year (an educated guess) shows the idea of the store has merits. It might not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Have you considered the cost? It is not free to run a shop. When another organisation can do it for you for less, it would be not good to have an own shop on principles only. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2016 at 20:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > Why do we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Why do we need such a Shop? (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) I agree with other users that the shop schould be hosted on wikimedia servers. --Steinsplitter > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:41:46 +0100 > From:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Joseph Seddon
I don't have numbers of orders to hand but revenue projections for the store can be seen on Slide 12 here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/WMF_Advancement_and_Fundraising_Tech_quarterly_review_-_Q2_FY2015-16.pdf FY 15/16 Projections: Gross Revenue: $74,383.34 Net Revenue:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread rupert THURNER
How many orders are handled by this shop? Rupert On Mar 21, 2016 17:32, "Joseph Seddon" wrote: > In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully wikimedia > hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised. > But moving in-house

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Joseph Seddon
In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully wikimedia hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised. But moving in-house would require resources for building and maintaining an ecommerce workflow that I don't think we collectively can justify. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Scholarship Decline

2016-03-21 Thread Rodrigo Padula
I had a conversation with Vitor Mazuco about this email and agreed with his point of view. Analyzing the list of users from Brazil that received schollarships from WMF during the last years, I noted that WMF/Scholarship Committees are always supporting the same group of people not generating

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Joseph Seddon
What your saying makes sense. I'll take a look into this Jon and get back to you as soon as I can. Seddon On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey Florence, > > Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but > hosted by Shopify,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto: >> >> On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >>> >>> As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a >>> FOSS-friendly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey Florence, > > Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but > hosted by Shopify, an e-commerce provider. [1] The orders are then sent to > our fulfillment partner, SWAGBOT. [2] That it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-03-21 8:34 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: And yes, it'd be nice if the server side was under WMF's control too! Yes, and no. The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off services that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a shop would be, like the blog,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto: On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does contribute to FLOSS themselves (mostly in the Ruby and Go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Ricordisamoa
As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise#Shopify.3F Il 21/03/2016 11:28, Joseph Seddon ha scritto: Hey Florence, Regarding your first question the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Florence Devouard
Thank you I sent you a private email. Flo Le 21/03/16 11:28, Joseph Seddon a écrit : Hey Florence, Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but hosted by Shopify, an e-commerce provider. [1] The orders are then sent to our fulfillment partner, SWAGBOT. [2] We have a

[Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

2016-03-21 Thread Florence Devouard
Is that directly run by Wikimedia Foundation staff or is that run by an independant company "paid" by WMF to manage the shop ? Who is behind the email address merchand...@wikimedia.org ? Thank you Florence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook updates "community standards" for a "diverse global community"

2016-03-21 Thread Kalliope Tsouroupidou
I agree that mass removal of photos depicting full-nudity statues (and in some cases erotic scenes, including intercourse[1]) or paintings of undisputed historical significance would be more harmful than useful and our policy should be inclusive of such material. Given the different

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-21 Thread WereSpielChequers
Is much of the problem about differing varieties of Portuguese? Last I heard the Portuguese language Wikipedia allowed multiple versions of Portuguese in a similar way to English - i.e. standardised at the article level not the project level; Though the editing base is much more skewed to Brazil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

2016-03-21 Thread Isla Haddow-Flood
Hello I am with all of those who see this as a positive thing. But perhaps a bit of gentle curation of their initial experience could be the "fix" that is needed rather than just cutting any fledgeling editors off altogether. How about the following ... reader decides to edit > clicks on edit