With regard to Sue, adding to the list of concerns about the sheer amount
of money is that she wasn't the executive anymore, so why was she being
paid like one?
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Fæ wrote:
> Thanks Gnangarra.
> I'm familiar with Bridgespan, and when I
I'm familiar with Bridgespan, and when I worked as a strategy
consultant, I used the "starvation cycle" myself. It's a way of
framing the need for improvement differently from simply insisting
that 5% is saved each year, and instead using more meaningful
I've been following this discussion with some interest. Can someone point
us to where Sue's compensation, after she left the Executive Director role,
was budgeted in the WMF annual plans? That money cannot have come out of
nowhere. Which line item, or line items, in the 2015-2016 Annual Plan were
this is worth reading
On 5 June 2016 at 16:23, Fæ wrote:
> On 5 June 2016 at 02:28, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> > On Sunday, 5 June
Obviously racial criticisms and so forth are awful like Pax said, but on the
matter of "troublemakers who are banned" I say it's a greatly overblown issue
chiefly emphasized by administrative participants who feel their authority is
threatened. One should really look to the nature of the
As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most active
editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be capable of answering the
questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who translate
articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 2 from
I understand now. Thank you for clarifying.
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W wrote:
> > I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting:
> > "Please
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W wrote:
> I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting:
> rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
> important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev
> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
> take time.
> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
> principle of the ED search committee was speed and
Agreed that uncivil administrators can be a part of a negative feedback
loop of stress and cynicism, as can uncivil WMF staff and others in
positions of authority. However, there are no perfect human beings and if
we demanded that all administrators and WMF staff be perfect at all times
I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting: "Please
rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not
important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an
a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this puzzling
As someone who deals with a lot of long-term abuse on the community side, I
can give a bit of a comment here. Most of the abuse response comes from the
community, not the WMF- they only get involved through their Trust & Safety
team on the worst cases.
Our ability to deal with block
On 2016-06-05 23:07, Nikola Kalchev wrote:
Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again (another notable
example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with chapters
up to four
Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that translations
Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most important
principle of the ED search committee was speed and not, e.g. participation
of a larger part of the community? What would the bad effects of a 2
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Pine W wrote:
> Hi Board search folks,
> Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury?
it is difficult for me to respond, as I agree in principle. I think we
should have more than just 9 most dominant languages, and as the
In general discussing specific cases on public mailings lists is not useful at
helping the situation (Pax is, of course, feel free to do so if they feel it
would be right). I think if people want to help then thinking about, and
talking about, ways to do so is the best way to tackle the
Thanks, Patrick. The community regularly expends considerable volunteer
time and effort to protect the intrgrity of article content and to deal
with block evasion. I think it would be helpful if further efforts could be
made to increase the efficiency and effectiveness of tools and processes
On June 3-5, the Polish Wikimedia chapter held its annual Wikimedia
Polska Conference, including the General Assembly of Members (June 4).
As it was the end of the current term for the Board, seven Board members
were elected for the next term, 2016-2018:
* Tomasz Ganicz / Polimerek, President
Hi Board search folks,
Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury?
On Jun 1, 2016 14:21, "Nikola Kalchev" wrote:
> about the ED search survey  I, as a member of an emerging community, the
> Bulgarian one , disagree that
Hi Pax and Pete,
It sounds like part of the issue in this case may be that may we need more
effective tools for dealing with troublemakers who are banned but continue
to return and cause problems. I'm wondering if Patrick Early can comment on
what efforts WMF is making in terms of dealing with
Pine, as one of the admins who has worked to fend off this sustained
attack, I can attest it is exactly that. Your point is a valid one, but it
does not apply to this situation.
On Jun 5, 2016 7:13 AM, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen"
> I am
I am defining harassment primarily as personal attacks, not merely
disputes (even strongly-worded disagreement) over content.
Some examples of what I consider harassment:
- Vandalizing an editor's user or talk page (hence my Inspire proposal:
I agree that blaming the victim is an unsatisfactory resolution.
On the other hand, defining what is meant by "incivility" and "harassment"
can be very tricky. Just because there is a strong disagreement doesn't
imply that people are being uncivil, and we cannot expect that no one will
On 5 June 2016 at 02:28, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 June 2016, Greg Varnum wrote:
> Not to put too fine a point on it... But are you saying that Sue remained
> the most highly paid contractor to the WMF, and at a significantly higher
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