Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Ruslan Takayev
Geni stated: "As so many projects have learned so painfully in the last decade the English Wikipedia knows what they are doing." Sorry, but that is not correct and Mitar's case is evidence of this. Here we have an article on a cultural organization in Slovenia, which a cursory glance of Google

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! Thanks you for all the responses. It is really great to see this various explanations. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, John wrote: > If we do not have checks and balances in place wikipedia will quickly get > overrun with articles on everyone and everything to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Nathan
Experiences described by a new editor are valid and meaningful even if, in relating them, the new editor shows some lack of familiarity with Wikipedia customs and established doctrines. It's certainly true that the process of patrolling pages for quality can be, from the perspective of a newbie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread geni
On 25 June 2016 at 13:14, Vi to wrote: > As a deletion I'd say we totally lost at en.wiki, we can maybe tie on other > wikis. > As so many projects have learned so painfully in the last decade the English Wikipedia knows what they are doing. -- geni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Mitar Gadzooks! The comments you made about friendly editors to a large community of Wikipedia editors, maybe re-think saying that. I'm having a hard time getting past these comments. *I* am a friendly editor, and am actually able to help you. But you have basically said you have too much of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Thank you Carl. I will make sure to note re: real world identity going forward. That was very helpful. Agree Deletionists seem to be winning -- I've been told a contribution I made was "too encyclopedic" for Wikipedia, among other nonsense. An entry about a woman of course. Sometimes it's very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread John
You are overly simplifying things, One can be both, some things just don't merit an article, an obscure band working out of a member's garage who have never had an audience of more than 500 shouldn't have an article because they really are not notable. On the other hand major artist should have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! On Twitter I was pointed to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia This is amazing. I think John Oliver should make a segment "Wikipedia Deletionism - how is this still a thing?" I mean, is this a failure of Wikipedia community governance? Reading about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! Thank you for your responses. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Brill Lyle wrote: > Please include your user name and the name of the article you were working > on. Without any context it's impossible to help you. Thankfully I was able > to dig and find the page,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread Pine W
Thanks James. It would be nice if novice users who prefer VE for content pages didn't need to learn about wikimarkup for talk pages, or had a shallower learning curve. My understanding is that some wiki communities like Flow and others don't. For those that aren't using Flow, are there any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread Johan Jönsson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:17 AM, James Forrester wrote: > All, > > > TL;DR: The Editing Department is working to make the content editing > software better. The big work areas are improving the visual editor and > editing wikitext. We will bring in a wikitext mode

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread James Forrester
On 23 June 2016 at 17:01, Pine W wrote: > 1. Is Flow feature development still frozen? If and when would Flow feature > development resume? > ​Yes, principal development is frozen. Like with all production software, urgent bugs and maintenance are still worked on, and we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Vi to
As a deletion I'd say we totally lost at en.wiki, we can maybe tie on other wikis. Life is never B/W, grey is everywhere. Vito 2016-06-25 12:18 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for > Wikidata. We

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board appointment of Executive Director

2016-06-25 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Congratulations to Katherine for being an incredible positive force and make a great impression in such a short time as Interim! A well deserved reward :) I have all the confidence that you are able to motivate those around you (and in our community) to perform at their best, work together and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for Wikidata. We can include much more and, we do include much more. It includes more people who won an award that what English Wikipedia does. Thanks, GerardM [1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread carl hansen
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Brill Lyle wrote: > Hi Mitar, > > ... > > First off: > Please include your user name and the name of the article you were working > on. Without any context it's impossible to help you. Thankfully I was able > to dig and find the page,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board appointment of Executive Director

2016-06-25 Thread shola ishola
Dear All, We write to congratulate Katherine on her appointment as the new Executive Director of our foundation. Wishing you the best. Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN  On Saturday, June 25, 2016 6:31 AM, Andrew Gray wrote: On 24 June 2016 at 10:15,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Mitar, I haven't been on Wiki-l that long so not sure how (or if) people respond to this issue, which is somewhat common. I will take a stab at responding and will try to keep it short and sweet as you said you don't want a lot of Wiki:Rulz First off: Please include your user name and the