Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please take part in the Flow satisfaction survey

2016-09-06 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, James Forrester wrote: > All, > > *TL;DR*: Communities using Flow are invited to fill out a survey about what > they want to see from Flow, From this web page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow#Development_status "Starting in

[Wikimedia-l] Please take part in the Flow satisfaction survey

2016-09-06 Thread James Forrester
All, *TL;DR*: Communities using Flow are invited to fill out a survey about what they want to see from Flow,[Y]. It is administered by a third-party service. It will not require an e-mail or your username. See our privacy statement.[Z] We in the Collaboration Team have currently paused major

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes to this: "the key issue is for us to build room for people to emerge but also to feel entitled to run for those position" I would say this is a key issue at the very bottom as well, for example just getting people to become a contributor to any one of our many projects, whether it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 05.09.2016 23:41, Asaf Bartov wrote: You clearly have a strong and abiding interest in movement governance, and have been asking some good questions. You should have submitted your candidacy.[1] To your point, I guess it can be taken as a reminder, but it does not seem to me that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread
Picking up on Christophe's idea of improving "organically". It is a good thing to be open to gradual organic improvement, this means that the Wikimedia ecology of organizations adopt proven improvements based on the results of varied and experimental changes. This is one big drawback, referred to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi Rogol, The weird thing in this discussion is I kind of agree with everyone. Yes more diversity would be awesome. But in my opinion diversity should be something we achieve organicaly. So, from my biased perspective, the key issue is for us to build room for people to emerge but also to feel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread Anders Wennersten
I am very happy how this nowadays works out. We have now a lot of chapters, each with a Board. And here the members are not oldtimers and here is the appropriate first place to get into the Wikmedia world. And there are many bodies who you can then turn to to get further into the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

2016-09-06 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
I think Pine's message rather illustrates my point. Pine seems to assume that the alternative is between people experienced in the WMF ways of doing things and novices. Actually, there are plenty of people in the world with experience in being trustees of non-proft organisations, and technical