Agree. Our flat population of active editors [0], while the Internet
population continues to grow, suggests that we have a problem. As a part of
the upcoming WMF strategy, I hope that there will be work on growing the
population of active contributors, as well as developing the number and
skills of community leaders, including new leaders.

Pine

[0] https://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/active_editors

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes to this: "the key issue is for us to build room for
> people to  emerge but also to feel entitled to run for those position"
>
> I would say this is a key issue at the very bottom as well, for example
> just getting people to become a contributor to any one of our many
> projects, whether it's Wikipedia, Commons, or anything else.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Christophe Henner <chen...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rogol,
> >
> > The weird thing in this discussion is I kind of agree with everyone.
> >
> > Yes more diversity would be awesome. But in my opinion diversity should
> be
> > something we achieve organicaly.
> >
> > So, from my biased perspective, the key issue is for us to build room for
> > people to  emerge but also to feel entitled to run for those position.
> >
> > To also build ways to train people, to "groom" them and their potential.
> > And we know that in our movement we have the smart people we will need in
> > the coming years. It's up to us to help them emerge and take our seats.
> >
> > I gebuinely haven't a solution ready to work out of the box and there are
> > people in our movement way more expert in those topics than me.
> >
> > And that might be something that could be adress during the strategy
> > process. And the only way we will be able to tackle it properly is if
> first
> > we can include everyone in our movement in the process, not just the
> "usual
> > suspects".
> >
> > Le 6 sept. 2016 8:46 AM, "Anders Wennersten" <m...@anderswennersten.se>
> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > I am very happy how this nowadays works out.
> > >
> > > We have now a lot of chapters, each with a Board. And here the members
> > are
> > > not oldtimers and here is the appropriate first place to get into the
> > > Wikmedia world.
> > >
> > > And there are many bodies who you can then turn to to get further into
> > the
> > > Wikimedia world, like Affcom or being a member of  Simple Annual Plan
> > > Grants Committee or other grant committees. Also here more or less
> > > newcomers are welcome.
> > >
> > > But for the core bodies like the Board, FDC or the BGC supporting
> > > committee, I am very pleased to see that we get a lot of people with
> long
> > > Wikimedia experience. And as they are frequently replaced, I see no
> > problem
> > > and only advantages
> > >
> > > Anders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Den 2016-09-06 kl. 08:33, skrev Rogol Domedonfors:
> > >
> > >> I think Pine's message rather illustrates my point.  Pine seems to
> > assume
> > >> that the alternative is between people experienced in the WMF ways of
> > >> doing
> > >> things and novices.  Actually, there are plenty of people in the world
> > >> with
> > >> experience in being trustees of non-proft organisations, and technical
> > >> expertise, and experience of knowledge representation and
> dissemination,
> > >> and the robustness to hold senior employees to account, who are not
> > >> closely
> > >> connected with the WMF or its affiliates.  They mainly live a long way
> > >> from
> > >> Silicon Valley, too.
> > >>
> > >> For the avoidance of doubt, I have never been a candidate for, let
> alone
> > >> held, any position, paid or voluntary, in or related to the WMF or any
> > >> associated organisation.
> > >>
> > >> "Rogol"
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