Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fixed the citation issue yet?

2016-09-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
That is another issue.. I do not think so. For us being able to link a
statement in a text or in Wikidata is what we define as a source.

For me the central question is: Are Wikipedians willing to consider quality
in their own project and appreciate that as a fringe benefit for them the
quality of sources will improve in Wikidata and in their project. So far
arguments why and how it will improve things have been made and so far the
silence is deafening.
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 10 September 2016 at 20:30, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> On 08/09/16 05:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> > There is only one question left: Are we
> > ready to fix these quality issues?
>
> My observation would be that citations come in many forms, and that a
> agreed format does not appear to exist. Writing for a academic journal
> authors have to follow the style of the journal. Should this be true in
> Wikipedia and other projects?
>
> Gordo
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fixed the citation issue yet?

2016-09-10 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/09/16 05:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> There is only one question left: Are we
> ready to fix these quality issues?

My observation would be that citations come in many forms, and that a
agreed format does not appear to exist. Writing for a academic journal
authors have to follow the style of the journal. Should this be true in
Wikipedia and other projects?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread Peter Southwood
Very happy to hear it, but very strange, as everything else was connecting 
normally.
Thanks for the response
Peter


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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Peter Southwood < 
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last 
> night. Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other 
> internet seems OK
>

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/en.wikipedia.org
https://status.wikimedia.org/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread Peter Southwood
Could be difficult as it is now working normally (I think)
Cheers,
Peter

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Hi Peter,

There is currently a report of a user experiencing similar issues in our 
Phabricator instance at .

If you could either post a tracert onto this email or into the phabricator 
ticket would be of great assistance.

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> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last 
> night. Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other 
> internet seems OK Cheers, Peter
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread K. Peachey
Hi Peter,

There is currently a report of a user experiencing similar issues in
our Phabricator instance at
.

If you could either post a tracert onto this email or into the
phabricator ticket would be of great assistance.

On 10 September 2016 at 15:20, Peter Southwood
 wrote:
> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last night. 
> Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other internet seems OK
> Cheers,
> Peter
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last
> night. Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other internet
> seems OK
>

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/en.wikipedia.org
https://status.wikimedia.org/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wimedia on line?

2016-09-10 Thread Philippe Beaudette
​No problems here.​

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> I have been unable to access Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or Meta since last
> night. Maybe 8 to 10 hours ago. Are the servers on line? Other internet
> seems OK
> Cheers,
> Peter
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