Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

[Andy Cruz y Corro]

Over here there's also a 30-min documentary about Wikimania 2015 [1] and a
9-min teaser [2]. If you want shorter videos, maybe the Wikimedia Mexico
Youtube channel might help [3]

Cheers

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2015_documentary.webm
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikiman%C3%ADa_2015_en_la_Ciudad_de_M%C3%A9xico_-_Documental_(teaser)_.webm
[3] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv614ar6uOFcbpI1ocCbgfw/feed

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Victor Grigas  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My first suggestion - this documentary from Wikimania 2013 is slightly
> outdated but does explain the basics of the Wikimedia movement in about 30
> minutes, and is appropriate for a 'theater' setting:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2013_in_
> Hong_Kong_(no_subtitles).webm
> (version with burned-in English subtitles)
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%
> 3AWikimania_2013_in_Hong_Kong.webm
>
> If that's too long, here's a 2 minute version about Wikimania from this
> year:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2016_in_
> Esino_Lario,_Italy_(no_subtitles).webm
> (version with burned-in English subtitles)
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%
> 3AWikimania_2016_in_Esino_Lario%2C_Italy.webm
>
> This 12-part series (about 30 minutes total) designed for teachers about
> using Wikipedia in Educational settings:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_in_
> Education_12-part_video_series
>
> All videos have open captions that can be translated.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> > We (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group) have
> >  been invited to talk about Wikipedia in one of Iranian well-known and
> > respected academic gatherings.
> > As part of this we have 40 minute time to show a film (preferably a
> > documentary ) about our movement, I am aware of
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_Wikipedia but I would
> > like to know if you have anything else in your disposal?
> > Thanks
> > Mardetanha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed Interim Executive Director

[Nurunnaby Hasive]

Congratulation Abraham!

-Hasive
WMBD
@nhasive

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Arthur Richards 
wrote:

> Congrats to you both, Christian and Abraham!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:43 PM Katy Love  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Congratulations, Abraham, on this important interim role!!
>
> >
>
> > Katy
>
> >
>
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Sydney Poore 
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Congratulations to Abraham Taherivand for his new role as Interim
>
> > > Executive Director, and to Christian for moving into his new position
>
> > > as Undersecretary.
>
> > >
>
> > > And I want to recognize the good work of the WMDE Supervisory Board
>
> > > for managing this transition process well.
>
> > > Sydney
>
> > > Sydney Poore
>
> > > User:FloNight
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Dan Garry 
> wrote:
>
> > > > Congratulations Christian! Having an advocate for the Wikimedia
>
> > movement
>
> > > in
>
> > > > such a position is definitely a good thing. :-)
>
> > > >
>
> > > > And, congratulations Abraham! I look forward to working with you in
>
> > your
>
> > > > new role.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Dan
>
> > > >
>
> > > > On 8 December 2016 at 16:47, Christian Rickerts <
>
> > > > christian.ricke...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > >> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> As Tim has already written, with effect from today I have stepped
> down
>
> > > from
>
> > > >> the position as Executive Director and handed over the business to
>
> > > Abraham.
>
> > > >> Tomorrow I will take the oath in my new position.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> I am looking back today at an incredible exciting, busy and funny
> time
>
> > > and
>
> > > >> I am proud to see what we were able to achieve together. I also want
>
> > to
>
> > > >> thank you for all the warm and cheering messages I received after
> Tims
>
> > > >> announcement.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> WMDE is in very good hands with Abraham, with a great team and solid
>
> > > >> structures and processes in place. Therefore I am leaving with a
> tear
>
> > in
>
> > > >> one eye and a smile in the other.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Congratulation Abraham (!) and good bye,
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Christian
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Am 08.12.2016 15:52 schrieb "Tim Moritz Hector" <
>
> > > >> tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de>:
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Earlier this week I informed you that Christian Rickerts might
> become
>
> > > the
>
> > > >> Undersecretary of State for the new Berlin ministry of economy,
> energy
>
> > > and
>
> > > >> enterprises. This has been confirmed today and Christian has stepped
>
> > > down
>
> > > >> from his WMDE role.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> I am very pleased to announce that the WMDE Supervisory Board
>
> > appointed
>
> > > >> Abraham Taherivand as Interim Executive Director as of 8 December
>
> > 2016.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Abraham has joined WMDE in March 2012 and is the Head of our
> Software
>
> > > >> Development department. He has been on the transition team during
> the
>
> > > last
>
> > > >> ED search, has headed our works council and has been appointed
> deputy
>
> > of
>
> > > >> the Executive Director recently. In his multiple roles, Abraham’s
>
> > > decisions
>
> > > >> have always been made in the sense of the Wikimedia Deutschland as a
>
> > > whole.
>
> > > >> With immediate effect, he has the full rights and duties of the
>
> > > Executive
>
> > > >> Director and will also continue to lead the Software Development
>
> > > >> Department.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> This solution allows us as a board to approach the next steps with
> the
>
> > > >> necessary calmness and deliberate thought. On 28-29 January 2017, we
>
> > > will
>
> > > >> meet for our regular board retreat and discuss all questions
> regarding
>
> > > the
>
> > > >> permanent filling of the ED position.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> Christian, once again a big thank you for your work with us.
>
> > > >> Congratulations and a good start in politics. I would like to thank
>
> > you,
>
> > > >> Abraham, for your agreement to take on this crucial task and look
>
> > > forward
>
> > > >> to the further, close cooperation with you!
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> I will keep you posted on future updates in the transition process.
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> For the Supervisory Board
>
> > > >> Tim Moritz Hector
>
> > > >> Chair
>
> > > >>
>
> > > >> --
>
> > > >> Tim Moritz Hector
>
> > > >> Chair of the Board
>
> > > >> Wikimedia Deutschland
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

[Victor Grigas]

Hi everyone,

My first suggestion - this documentary from Wikimania 2013 is slightly
outdated but does explain the basics of the Wikimedia movement in about 30
minutes, and is appropriate for a 'theater' setting:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2013_in_Hong_Kong_(no_subtitles).webm
(version with burned-in English subtitles)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWikimania_2013_in_Hong_Kong.webm

If that's too long, here's a 2 minute version about Wikimania from this
year:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2016_in_Esino_Lario,_Italy_(no_subtitles).webm
(version with burned-in English subtitles)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWikimania_2016_in_Esino_Lario%2C_Italy.webm

This 12-part series (about 30 minutes total) designed for teachers about
using Wikipedia in Educational settings:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_in_Education_12-part_video_series

All videos have open captions that can be translated.




On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Mardetanha 
wrote:

> Dear all,
> We (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group) have
>  been invited to talk about Wikipedia in one of Iranian well-known and
> respected academic gatherings.
> As part of this we have 40 minute time to show a film (preferably a
> documentary ) about our movement, I am aware of
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_Wikipedia but I would
> like to know if you have anything else in your disposal?
> Thanks
> Mardetanha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] documentaries about Wikipedia

[Gnangarra]

some of these perhaps
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Impact_of_Wikipedia

On 10 December 2016 at 05:50, Mardetanha  wrote:

> Dear all,
> We (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Wikimedians_User_Group) have
>  been invited to talk about Wikipedia in one of Iranian well-known and
> respected academic gatherings.
> As part of this we have 40 minute time to show a film (preferably a
> documentary ) about our movement, I am aware of
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_Wikipedia but I would
> like to know if you have anything else in your disposal?
> Thanks
> Mardetanha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement by Wikimedia Board on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity, and Safe Spaces

[C. Scott Ananian]

I hope to continue this discussion, focusing on technical
features/UX/affordances, at the 2017 Dev Summit in January.  I welcome
comments & ideas at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149665.
  --scott

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Christophe Henner 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> As many of you know, over the past couple of years the Wikimedia Foundation
> has taken a focused look at community health—particularly in regards to
> harassment. The Foundation's Board has been monitoring and discussing this
> issue over the past year with great interest. We have prepared a statement
> offering our thoughts on this topic, and providing a clear mandate for the
> Foundation’s leadership to fully engage on this issue.
>
> Our statement is below and has been posted on Meta-Wiki, where it is set up
> for translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Board_noticeboard/November_2016_-_Statement_on_Healthy_Community_Culture,_
> Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
>
> Since the Foundation was established, we have been invested in building a
> positive community culture. As part of these efforts, we have monitored the
> projects for instances of harassment, escalating our capacity to respond in
> recent years. Thanks to the work of the Foundation's Support and Safety
> Team, we now have data in the form of the 2015 Harassment Survey[1] about
> the nature of the issue. This has enabled us to identify key areas of
> concern, and step up our response appropriately. This research shows that
> harassment has a negative impact on participation in our projects. This has
> implications for our ability to collect, share, and disseminate free
> knowledge in support of the Wikimedia vision. Our statement speaks to the
> Board's duty to help the Foundation fulfill its mission.
>
> The Board is committed to making our communities safer and will not accept
> harassment and toxic behavior on Wikimedia projects. We believe this matter
> deserves the Foundation's attention and resources, and have confirmed this
> responsibility at our latest Board meeting on November 13th. The questions
> that lay before us all now are how to best address this threat, rather than
> if we should attempt to do so.
>
> The Board especially appreciates and applauds the work being done to
> address this important issue by many community leaders across the movement
> and teams within the Foundation. We look forward to seeing this cooperative
> work not only continue, but expand. Finally, we encourage everyone who is
> interested in helping the Foundation address this threat to our vision and
> mission to engage in the upcoming discussions around this issue.
>
> On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees,
>
> Christophe Henner, Board Chair
>
> María Sefidari, Board Vice Chair
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Harassment_survey_2015
>
>
> Statement by the Wikimedia Board on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity,
> and Safe Spaces
>
>
> At our Board meeting on November 13, and in Board meetings in September and
> June, we spent considerable time discussing the issues of harassment and
> hostility on the internet generally, and more specifically on the Wikimedia
> projects.
>
> This is an important issue. Approximately 40% of internet users, and 70% of
> women internet users, have personally experienced harassment.[1] Of people
> who have reported experiencing harassment on Wikimedia projects, more than
> 50% reported decreasing their participation in our community.[2] Based on
> this and other research, we conclude that harassment and toxic behavior on
> the Wikimedia projects negatively impacts the ability of the Wikimedia
> projects to collect, share, and disseminate free knowledge. This behavior
> is contrary to our vision and mission.
>
> Our communities deserve safe spaces in which they can contribute
> productively and debate constructively. It is our belief that the Wikimedia
> Foundation should be proactively engaged in eliminating harassment,
> promoting inclusivity, ensuring a healthier culture of discourse, and
> improving the safety of Wikimedia spaces. We request management to dedicate
> appropriate resources to this end.
>
> We urge every member of the Wikimedia communities to collaborate in a way
> that models the Wikimedia values of openness and diversity, step forward to
> do their part to stop hostile and toxic behavior, support people who have
> been targeted by such behavior, and help set clear expectations for all
> contributors.
>
> [1] 2014 Pew Research Center Study, found at:
> http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/22/online-harassment/
>
> [2] 2015 WMF Harassment Survey, found at:
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/
> Harassment_Survey_2015_-_Results_Report.pdf
>
>
>
> Christophe HENNER
> Chair of the board of trustees
> chen...@wikimedia.org
> +33650664739
>
> twitter *@schiste*skype *christophe_henner*
> 

[Wikimedia-l] Public call for applications for 2016-17 Ombuds Commission

[Karen Brown]

Hi all,

It's coming close to time for annual appointments of community members to
serve on the Ombudsman commission. This commission works on all Wikimedia
projects to investigate complaints about violations of the privacy policy,
especially in use of CheckUser and Oversight tools, and to mediate between
the complaining party and the individual whose work is being investigated.
They may also assist the General Counsel, the Executive Director or the
Board of Trustees in investigations of these issues. For more on their
duties and roles, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission

*This is a call for community members interested in volunteering for
appointment to this commission.* Commissioners should be experienced
Wikimedians, active on any project, who have previously used the
CheckUser/Oversight tool OR who have the technical ability to understand
the CheckUser/Oversight tool and the willingness to learn it. They are
expected to be able to engage neutrally in investigating these concerns and
to know when to recuse when other roles and relationships may cause
conflict. (In the past, commissioners have retired from other roles that
could cause conflict.)

Commissioners must be willing to identify to the Wikimedia Foundation and
to comply with the appropriate board policies (such as the access to
non-public data policy <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_information_policy> and
the privacy policy ). This
is a position that requires a high degree of discretion and trust.

*If you are interested in serving on this commission, please drop me a note
(kbr...@wikimedia.org ) detailing your experience on
the projects, your thoughts on the commission and what you hope to bring to
the role.* The commission is deliberately quite small, so slots are
limited, but all applications are appreciated. The deadline for
applications is January 2. Any timezone. :)

Please feel free to pass this invitation along to any users who you think
may be interested.

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Karen Brown

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Passing of User:Coyau

[Shlomi Fish]

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:22:26 -0800
Guillaume Paumier  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> It is with great sadness that I must share the news of the passing of
> User:Coyau, a pillar of the francophone Wikimedia community.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Coyau
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Coyau
>

Sorry to hear about that.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Statement by Wikimedia Board on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity, and Safe Spaces

[Chris Keating]

Thanks Christophe and Patrick - it's good to know both that the WMF views
this as a serious issue, and to hear what is actually happening to tackle
it!

Chris

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Patrick Earley 
wrote:

> I want to thank the Board for this letter, and for their focus on this
> problem.
>
> What specific work should we be doing to make progress around this issue?
> Harassment is a complex problem, and there are no easy solutions.  Nor is
> there likely to be a single solution; improvement will have to be made
> through a number of initiatives and coordinated approaches.
>
> Wikimedia volunteers have offered many different approaches to the problem,
> through consultations, workshops, the Inspire campaign, conference
> sessions, and discussion. The Support and Safety team has been collating
> these ideas, exploring the issue in the broader context of online
> communities, and delving into academic research on the topic.
>
> From these conversations and research, we have identified some
> categories/areas for improvement:
>
>- Better blocking tools and detection - the Wikimedia community works
>hard on the front lines keeping our users safe from harassment, through
>monitoring noticeboards and recent changes for problems, investigating
>“sock” accounts used to abuse contributors, and placing blocks on
>problematic users. Improvements to blocking tools, and the ability to
>detect harassing comments sooner can empower contributors to be more
>effective at these tasks.
>
>
>- Reporting and evaluation tools - The current systems for reporting
>harassment are overburdened and can be unclear to users, and there are
>limited tools that admins and stewards can use to evaluate the cases and
>make good decisions. New tools, developed in collaboration with
>functionaries and communities, can improve the experience of reporting,
>investigating and managing harassment cases.
>
>
>- Training for better handling of both in-person and online harassment -
>Better training can give contributors the tools and skills to handle
>harassment situations quickly and empathetically, document cases, and
>provide good advice to targets of harassment.
>
>
>- Policy and enforcement - Wikimedia communities have developed a
>variety of processes, policies, and approaches to dealing with
> behavioural
>problems.  As a movement, we need to identify which are working well,
> and
>share those successes. We also need to identify where our approaches are
>not working well, identify the problems, and try new solutions based on
>research and data.
>
>
>- Coordination with other platforms on harassment approaches and tools,
>and keeping up with current academic research - Our communities are not
> the
>only ones struggling with the problem of online harassment.  We need to
>work more closely with other platforms, researchers, online communities,
>and experts to make sure we are aware of successful techniques, new
>research, and useful tools.
>
> The above areas are not the only areas where improvement can be made -
> right now, contributors are brainstorming other approaches through the
> Community Wishlist process.[1]  We also encourage contributors to reach out
> to the Support and Safety team at c...@wikimedia.org with ideas, or contact
> me privately at pear...@wikimedia.org.
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Sydney Poore 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Christophe and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation trustees
> > for dedicating time and thought to this important topic.
> >
> > I'm optimistic that if we collaborate together as a community we can
> > make a difference in the level of harassment on Wikimedia projects and
> > maybe even other parts of the internet.
> >
> > Sydney
> > Sydney Poore
> > User:FloNight
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Christophe Henner  >
> > wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > As many of you know, over the past couple of years the Wikimedia
> > Foundation
> > > has taken a focused look at community health—particularly in regards to
> > > harassment. The Foundation's Board has been monitoring and discussing
> > this
> > > issue over the past year with great interest. We have prepared a
> > statement
> > > offering our thoughts on this topic, and providing a clear mandate for
> > the
> > > Foundation’s leadership to fully engage on this issue.
> > >
> > > Our statement is below and has been posted on Meta-Wiki, where it is
> set
> > up
> > > for translation:
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > Board_noticeboard/November_2016_-_Statement_on_Healthy_
> Community_Culture,_
> > Inclusivity,_and_Safe_Spaces
> > >
> > > Since the Foundation was established, we have been invested in
> building a
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early Update - Fundraising

[Andreas Kolbe]

Good article on Wikimedia fundraising:

http://associationsnow.com/2016/12/lessons-wikipedias-annual-donation-strategy/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Early Update - Fundraising

[Andreas Kolbe]

Thanks, Seddon.

Jimmy Wales, in his inimitable style, was a little more definite on this
idea of stopping the fundraiser when the targeted amount of money is in the
bank.

Rich Farmbrough had asked,[1]




Once upon a time, unless I imagined it, we used to run the annual
fund-raiser until we had reached the target then stop. We no longer do this.

Why then, does a banner come up saying "If we all donated £2 the
fund-raiser would be over in an hour?" [...]

[...] we want to see the Foundation properly funded. That desire cannot be
the reason, or the excuse, that every year we have morally dubious
fund-raising messages.

All the best: *Rich
 Farmbrough
*, 20:25, 1
December 2016 (UTC).
We would still stop the fundraiser if enough money were raised in shorter
than the planned time. So I don't see what your concern is about.--Jimbo
Wales  (talk
) 10:09, 2
December 2016 (UTC)



Jimmy has good instincts when it comes to saying the right thing to defuse
criticism. But you have to *do* the right thing, too, to have any
credibility.


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> What could be done is to allow the fundraiser to continue after reaching
> the original goals with acknowledgement that the original goals have been
> met, and specifying what extended goals income could be used for. This
> happens all the time on kickstarter. It is open and ethically acceptable as
> everyone knows what is happening and can choose accordingly.
>

I agree with Peter. This sounds like an excellent idea.

On the matter of last year's endowment: I thought that is why the target
was increased from $20 million (2014) to $25 million (2015). (The fiscal
plan specifically referred to $5 million for the endowment.[2]) Yet as
we've seen, the latter target was also substantially exceeded, by far more
than the 20% "stretch goal" mentioned in the fiscal plan. That looks
exactly like the approach Rich was criticising.

On the reliability of the frdata dumps: I take your point that the totals
on the frdata page are lower than the actual amounts taken. I'd assumed
this was because the frdata page only included small donations made through
the Wikimedia websites, and did not include major donations made directly
to WMF, such as the $1 million received from Craigslist founder Craig
Newmark. At any rate, the page is a good page to have (transparency in
action), and worth maintaining.

Regards,
Andreas

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_215#Once_upon_a_time
[2]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2015-2016_Annual_Plan#Summary_of_the_fiscal_plan

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> There is naturally some flexibility as to when we stop and that's a
> decision that will be looked at over the coming days and weeks. It's always
> useful to give ourselves some breathing space for our Q3 and Q4 campaigns.
> We also don't include major gifts donations in the total for our online
> campaigns. This is one factor that increases the difference between the
> December totals and the December goal for online fundraising. Last year we
> also decided to use the online fundraiser to help seed the endowment which
> added $5million to our to our fundraising for the December fundraiser.
>
> Regards
> Seddon
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>
> > Hi Seddon,
> >
> > Okay, but I believe I am correct in saying that you took around $34
> million
> > last December, even though the publicised[1] target was $25 million.
> >
> > I am basing that on the monthly bar chart in the Wikimedia Foundation's
> > 2015–2016 Fundraising Report.[2]*
> >
> > In 2014, the publicised target was $20 million, and you reported[3] that
> > you surpassed that as well – by more than $10 million, according to the
> > frdata dump.
> >
> > Given that this year you've taken well over half your target amount in
> > eight days, and are outperforming last year's campaign, I estimate you'll
> > end up with a total of around $40 million if you keep the campaign
> running
> > until the end of the year, i.e. $15 million more than the communicated
> > target.
> >
> > Is that what you're intending to do, or will you end the campaign when
> the
> > targeted $25 million are in the bank?
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> >
> > * I tried to include the chart for quick reference, but the mail that
> > included seems to have gotten stuck in the system. I guess pipermail
> > doesn't like graphics.
> >
> > [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/12/01/wikimedia-foundati
> > on-annual-campaign/
> > [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2015-2016_Fundraising_Report
> > [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/01/05/thank-you-for-keep
> >