Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What I do not understand is why? We have had maps and nearby functionality for a very long time 2014 based on Wikidata [1]. It has the benefit of being of use in any of our languages much more than what Apple has to offer. This was developed at the Hackathon in Vienna. OSM maps have as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread James Heilman
That link does not for me Jonatan? But yes if the app is pulling from Apple and giving our users data to Apple that would not be allowed by the privacy policy. Or at least that is my understanding. James On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Jonatan Svensson Glad < gladjona...@outlook.com> wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread James Heilman
Why are we not using OSM? I know Yuri created tiles within the WMF system of services and those are what Wikivoyage uses. Wikivoyage was once using no open maps that were not hosted locally which was a breach of our privacy policy. Thankfully Yuri created the solution mentioned once the issue was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread Jonatan Svensson Glad
> If the nonfree content is presented as an integral part of the interface, > such as inline with the article, that's a problem. It is an "integral part of the interface", so mcu so, it is it's own "thing" in the app, and not part of "in articles". See screenshot (which I can't upload to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread Todd Allen
I think it depends how it's being used. If the nonfree content is presented as an integral part of the interface, such as inline with the article, that's a problem. On the other hand, if the interface just allows the separate Apple Maps to be pulled up, that's a bit different. We frequently link

[Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

2017-03-10 Thread Jonatan Svensson Glad
Hello everyone, I'm not one who usually writes on these lists, but since it seems like a good way to get others opinions (and ince I've already formed my own), I thought it was a good way to see what others had to say and think. The mobile team for the iOS app (who are all awesome!) has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-10 Thread Pine W
Looking at the talk page briefly, I'm seeing few objections to the close and it appears that no one has reverted it, so it's likely to stick. I remain skeptical of the process (not to say that it's all bad; Matt certainly did a lot of outreach on mailing lists), but I wouldn't suggest using this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] March 10: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#10)

2017-03-10 Thread Pine W
Thanks Katherine. It's nice to see how this process is coming along. The weekly updates are helpful. If I may highlight a point: I very much like Victor's video. I think it has good perspective(s) on this ambitious project. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2030.wikimedia.org.webm. Pine

[Wikimedia-l] March 10: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#10)

2017-03-10 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi all! It’s the 10th update! According to English Wikipedia, the traditional gift for a 10th anniversary is tin and aluminum.[1] So, here is a photo of some art taken during Wiki Loves Art Netherlands that features a Ta'zīya[2] made from bamboo and aluminum foil:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi Lane, 2017-03-10 8:01 GMT-08:00 Lane Rasberry : > Congratulations to everyone. > > I notice that some of these users do not have their WMF accounts connected > to their user accounts. > > Would it be a problem to ask for user and work accounts to reference each > other?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Thanks Guillaume for your answer. I provided enough info for the Community Engagement to double-check if they want to, and I have no personal interest in the outcome, so I am happy to leave it as it is now. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Guillaume Paumier

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Lane Rasberry
Congratulations to everyone. I notice that some of these users do not have their WMF accounts connected to their user accounts. Would it be a problem to ask for user and work accounts to reference each other? Thanks, On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Paumier

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hello Yaroslav, Yes, the Foundation's Community Engagement department, who are the most familiar with Wikimedia communities, reviewed the applications thoroughly. If you have concerns about a specific person, which obviously can't be discussed on a public list, I happy to discuss them with you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

2017-03-10 Thread Sydney Poore
+1 I'm thrilled to see this group from around the globe. Sydney On Mar 10, 2017 2:55 AM, "Christophe Henner" wrote: Welcome in your new roles Venus, Tuan, Todd, Takashi, Oleg, Szymon, Satdeep, Samuel, Robin, Tomasz, Niccolò, Nahid, Marco, Ran, Jonatan, Gereon, Chico,