Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Pine W]

Hi James,

Two points:

1. Intrinsic motivation, at this point, appears to be inadequate for
increasing the population of the Wikimedia volunteer community. I am
skeptical that we should rely on the same mechanism which isn't working in
the volunteer community to fill slots on the WMF Board, which also seems to
be struggling to fill its ranks.

2. I think that there's some grey between fully intrinsic and fully
extrinsic motivation. For example, there are a number WMF employees to
which WMF pays $100,000+ compensation packages. Yet we don't complain that
their motivations are extrinsic and incompatible with the Wikimedia
mission. WMF pays them that level of compensation to encourage them to stay
with WMF instead of working for another organization (probably a for-profit
one) which would likely pay them similar levels of compensation. It seems
to me that if WMF is struggling to attract the quantity and quality of
Board members that it needs, then compensation is a reasonable option to
consider.

Responding to Pete: although it's unusual for nonprofit board members to be
paid, as far as I can see the practice isn't forbidden. I imagine that WMF
Legal could provide guidance about what is and isn't allowed. Whether
whether it's allowed and whether it should actually happen are, of course,
two different questions. A resource that I find instructive is
https://www.asaecenter.org/resources/articles/an_plus/2015/december/should-board-members-of-nonprofit-organizations-be-compensated,
which provides a list of pros and cons for providing compensation to Board
members. One of the points that they make is along similar lines as Lane's:
that providing compensation could increase the diversity of candidates. A
point that I think is also worth making is that if Board members are
compensated then expectations should be proportionately greater for their
performance and attendance to Board matters; I don't want anything like a
repeat of the situation that happened with Lila in which the WMF Board
seems to have been asleep at the wheel. Given that current Board members
seem to be struggling with their workloads, I think that exploring the pros
and cons of compensating WMF Board members is worth serious consideration.

I like the idea of the Board having its own staff separate from the ED.
This would be similar to how legislative bodies are supported by their own
staff which is separate from the executive branch. If this kind of support
would be adequate to address the problems of Board recruitment (which I
doubt) then I'd say to go for it. It might be worthwhile exploring this
option in tandem with exploring the option of compensating Board members.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[James Heilman]

And with chromebooks there is a "powerwash" feature that resets it to "new".

James

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Mardetanha 
wrote:

> as far as I understood from asaf email and meta page, all laptops are fully
> formatted with brand new Ubuntu installed on them, so they are safe
>
> Mardetanha
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Risker  wrote:
>
> > Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept
> donated
> > laptops for redistribution.  I expect that the WMF's own depreciated
> > laptops can be warranted to be virus- and malware-free; I'd be a bit
> > concerned from the risk mitigation perspective if they were to start
> > providing equipment from third parties that the WMF itself hasn't made
> sure
> > is safe, and I'm not sure it's the best use of WMF staff time to go
> through
> > that verification process.  (Incidentally, I'd have the same concerns
> about
> > chapters and other groups.)
> >
> > I do really like the idea of the WMF and other groups with depreciated,
> > verified-safe hardware sharing this hardware with other Wikimedians,
> though
> > - it's a great idea.  Laptops are the right things to start with; there
> may
> > come a time where other electronic equipment  can be shared in a similar
> > way.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On 17 March 2017 at 17:11, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > > I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
> > > effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it
> > that a
> > > dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information
> > we
> > > need is a better fit.
> > >
> > > Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
> > > depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
> > > office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >A.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page
> for
> > > > Community donations?
> > > >
> > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > > >
> > > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > > > called
> > > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed
> to
> > > > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office
> > to
> > > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > > >
> > > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described
> on
> > > > Meta,
> > > > > here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > > >
> > > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you
> to
> > > pay
> > > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine
> > most
> > > of
> > > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > > >
> > > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> > would
> > > be
> > > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person
> > to
> > > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding
> > this
> > > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to
> > the
> > > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social
> > media
> > > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > > >
> > > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had
> the
> > > idea
> > > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > > > inspired
> > > > > this program.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > > regularly
> > > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > > machines,
> > > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways
> to
> > > > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > > A: no.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Mardetanha]

as far as I understood from asaf email and meta page, all laptops are fully
formatted with brand new Ubuntu installed on them, so they are safe

Mardetanha

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Risker  wrote:

> Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept donated
> laptops for redistribution.  I expect that the WMF's own depreciated
> laptops can be warranted to be virus- and malware-free; I'd be a bit
> concerned from the risk mitigation perspective if they were to start
> providing equipment from third parties that the WMF itself hasn't made sure
> is safe, and I'm not sure it's the best use of WMF staff time to go through
> that verification process.  (Incidentally, I'd have the same concerns about
> chapters and other groups.)
>
> I do really like the idea of the WMF and other groups with depreciated,
> verified-safe hardware sharing this hardware with other Wikimedians, though
> - it's a great idea.  Laptops are the right things to start with; there may
> come a time where other electronic equipment  can be shared in a similar
> way.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 17:11, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
> > effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it
> that a
> > dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information
> we
> > need is a better fit.
> >
> > Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
> > depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
> > office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> > > Community donations?
> > >
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > >
> > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > > called
> > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office
> to
> > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > >
> > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > > Meta,
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > >
> > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> > pay
> > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine
> most
> > of
> > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > >
> > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> would
> > be
> > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person
> to
> > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding
> this
> > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to
> the
> > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social
> media
> > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > >
> > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> > idea
> > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > > inspired
> > > > this program.
> > > >
> > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > >
> > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > regularly
> > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > A: no.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > > > purposes?
> > > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > > of
> > > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> > Once
> > > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> > can't
> > > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Yuri Astrakhan]

I really wish there was a way to ensure the laptop is safe, regardless of
its source. The chances with WMF laptop might be lower [citation needed],
but nothing is guaranteed, and a clean reinstall should be done regardless
(not a panacea).

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:11 PM Risker  wrote:

> Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept donated
> laptops for redistribution.  I expect that the WMF's own depreciated
> laptops can be warranted to be virus- and malware-free; I'd be a bit
> concerned from the risk mitigation perspective if they were to start
> providing equipment from third parties that the WMF itself hasn't made sure
> is safe, and I'm not sure it's the best use of WMF staff time to go through
> that verification process.  (Incidentally, I'd have the same concerns about
> chapters and other groups.)
>
> I do really like the idea of the WMF and other groups with depreciated,
> verified-safe hardware sharing this hardware with other Wikimedians, though
> - it's a great idea.  Laptops are the right things to start with; there may
> come a time where other electronic equipment  can be shared in a similar
> way.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 17:11, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
> > effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it
> that a
> > dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information
> we
> > need is a better fit.
> >
> > Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
> > depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
> > office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >A.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> > > Community donations?
> > >
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > >
> > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > > called
> > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office
> to
> > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > >
> > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > > Meta,
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > >
> > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> > pay
> > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine
> most
> > of
> > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > >
> > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> would
> > be
> > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person
> to
> > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding
> this
> > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to
> the
> > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social
> media
> > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > >
> > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> > idea
> > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > > inspired
> > > > this program.
> > > >
> > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > >
> > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > regularly
> > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > A: no.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > > > purposes?
> > > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > > of
> > > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> > Once
> > > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Risker]

Just noting as an aside that I'd be hesitant for the WMF to accept donated
laptops for redistribution.  I expect that the WMF's own depreciated
laptops can be warranted to be virus- and malware-free; I'd be a bit
concerned from the risk mitigation perspective if they were to start
providing equipment from third parties that the WMF itself hasn't made sure
is safe, and I'm not sure it's the best use of WMF staff time to go through
that verification process.  (Incidentally, I'd have the same concerns about
chapters and other groups.)

I do really like the idea of the WMF and other groups with depreciated,
verified-safe hardware sharing this hardware with other Wikimedians, though
- it's a great idea.  Laptops are the right things to start with; there may
come a time where other electronic equipment  can be shared in a similar
way.

Risker/Anne

On 17 March 2017 at 17:11, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
> effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it that a
> dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information we
> need is a better fit.
>
> Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
> depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
> office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.
>
> Cheers,
>
>A.
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs  wrote:
>
> > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> > Community donations?
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> >
> > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > called
> > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > >
> > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > Meta,
> > > here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > >
> > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> pay
> > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most
> of
> > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > >
> > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > Applications are welcome.
> > >
> > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would
> be
> > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > >
> > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> idea
> > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > inspired
> > > this program.
> > >
> > > Mini-FAQ:
> > >
> > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> regularly
> > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> machines,
> > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > >
> > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > A: no.
> > >
> > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > A: yes, eventually.
> > >
> > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > > purposes?
> > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> > of
> > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> Once
> > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> can't
> > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > >
> > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them
> through
> > > this program?
> > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > A: So are we! :)
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > A: So it goes.
> > >
> > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Asaf
> > > ___
> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Asaf Bartov]

I do know the Equipment exchange page, yes.  I do not consider it an
effective vehicle for this program.  Reviewing it now, I stand by it that a
dedicated space on Meta with an explicit form gathering the information we
need is a better fit.

Also, the program is about laptops at the moment, and is based on
depreciated office laptops.  We don't have much photography gear in the
office, and aren't likely to have such gear to donate.

Cheers,

   A.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM Michael Maggs  wrote:

> Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> Community donations?
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
>
> It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
>
> Michael
>
> > Asaf Bartov 
> > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> called
> > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > community members who would put it to good use.
> >
> > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> Meta,
> > here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> >
> > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
> > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
> > the decisions we'll be making.
> >
> > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > Applications are welcome.
> >
> > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
> > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> >
> > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > channels or other communication forms you use.
> >
> > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
> > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> inspired
> > this program.
> >
> > Mini-FAQ:
> >
> > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
> > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working machines,
> > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> >
> > Q: Am I eligible?
> > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > A: no.
> >
> > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > A: yes, eventually.
> >
> > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > purposes?
> > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> of
> > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
> > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
> > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> >
> > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
> > this program?
> > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > A: So are we! :)
> >
> > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > A: So it goes.
> >
> > Q: I have more questions!
> > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Asaf
> > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Peter Southwood]

And as we are spread around the world, distribution through local affiliates 
would be less of a logistics problem in many cases.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
James Heilman
Sent: Friday, 17 March 2017 10:09 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

Many of us also get newer laptops while the older ones are still functional. I 
bet their are many community members who would also be happy to donate to such 
a program.

James

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Sounds like a nice thought :) But maybe first go through this round, 
> and see how that works out? It sounds like a big challenge, and I'm 
> really curious how they are going to limit overhead. It still sounds 
> like a big project to me. So lets reduce the amount of community 
> requests that may make it more complicated to a minimum :P
>
> If it works well, maybe you could look for some community member(s) 
> that want to help in scaling it up a bit?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-17 18:19 GMT+01:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
>
> > I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop 
> > donations for this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to 
> > donate their old
> laptops
> > to Wikipedia volunteers...  I am not sure how big of an overhead it 
> > would be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a 
> > significant difference (?) .
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:14 PM Michael Maggs 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page 
> > > for Community donations?
> > >
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > >
> > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new 
> > > > program
> > > called
> > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program 
> > > > designed to donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from 
> > > > the WMF office
> to
> > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > >
> > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is 
> > > > described on
> > > Meta,
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > >
> > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage 
> > > > you to
> > pay
> > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which 
> > > > determine
> most
> > of
> > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > >
> > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> would
> > be
> > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in 
> > > > person
> to
> > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, 
> > > > I'd encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by 
> > > > forwarding
> this
> > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link 
> > > > to
> the
> > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) 
> > > > social
> media
> > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > >
> > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had 
> > > > the
> > idea
> > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, 
> > > > and
> > > inspired
> > > > this program.
> > > >
> > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > >
> > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > regularly
> > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to 
> > > > San Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost 
> > > > ways to deliver them to our own community members, that's so much 
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > A: no.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for 
> > > > Wikimedia purposes?
> > > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > > of
> > > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> > Once
> > > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, 
> > > > but
> > can't
> > > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > > >
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Lane Rasberry]

Thanks for this.

If anyone needs context -

There are 10 board seats
- The Wikimedia community of editors votes for 3, with all three seats open
by 13 August 2017 at latest (WMF sets election date, no date set for
election yet)
- There are 2 chapter selected seats
- Natalia above is talking about the 4 appointed seats, plus recruitment
generally of volunteers on a board advisory group. 2 appointed seats are
vacant at present
- Jimbo +1 seat

In short - 5 of 10 seats will have new or reconfirmed trustees by 13 August
2017. Personally, I think things are on schedule considering the recent
past coming to this point.

Thanks Nataliia. I am glad to see the process working as designed.



On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall, March
> 6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need more
> time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were
> extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two months.
> Here is an outline of the updated timeline:
>
>
>-
>
>Application and referral submission period (January 23 - May 6)
>-
>
>Application and referral review, proactive candidate recruitment, and
>interviews (January - June 5)
>-
>
>   Initial application review and screenings (January - May)
>   -
>
>   Board Governance Committee
>    Board_Governance_Committee>
>   (BGC) discussions with candidates (January - May)
>   -
>
>   BGC meets and makes short list (May)
>   -
>
>   Second-round interviews (May - June 5)
>   -
>
>  Background check conducted by BGC and Wikimedia Foundation staff
>  -
>
> Criminal and financial background check conducted by outside
> firm
> -
>
> Thorough review of online and public coverage of candidates
> -
>
>Executive Director and BGC meet to determine recommendations and provide
>recommendations to the full Board (June)
>-
>
>Board vote to confirm candidate (July)
>-
>
>Announcement of new candidates (mid-July)
>
>
> We decided to run this search ourselves, rather than going with a
> recruiting firm. If we need additional help, we’ll assess in one month and
> potentially discuss whether we need to look for external firms to support
> our recruitment efforts.
>
> As a reminder, applicants may apply online at:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We
> also accept applications and referrals by email at
> board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org. The recruitment materials can be
> found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=55283092 [2].
>
>
> I shall update the Meta page shortly [3].
>
> Please forward this information to people who are potentially interested in
> serving the Wikimedia movement on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
> (as of Jan 23)
>  Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_recruitment=16250784>
> [2]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_
> Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>
> *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal working
> hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend. You
> should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank you in
> advance!*
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We would like to announce that we are officially beginning recruitment
> for
> > two open appointed positions on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
> > This email will outline the process and timeline for the recruitment.
> >
> > The Board initially began discussions on recruitment in May-June 2016
> [1].
> > After a pause, the Board Governance Committee (BGC) has renewed
> recruitment
> > for its vacant appointed seats and would love to share an update with you
> > today.
> >
> > With support from Anna Stillwell (from the Talent & Culture department)
> > and Michelle Paulson (our interim General Counsel), the BGC developed
> four
> > candidate profiles for the vacant and soon-to-be-vacant seats and gave
> its
> > recommendations to the Board in December 2016.
> >
> > During its December meeting, the Board decided that it hopes to find the
> > following types of experience and expertise:
> >
> >
> >1.
> >
> >Growing a global movement: apply
> > 3vh7tx1#.WIZGvrYrL-Y>
> >[2]
> >2.
> >
> >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Lane Rasberry]

Hello,

In the last community election a Google employee, a physician, and a
Harvard business professor were selected. These are all higher income
professions. There were a range of reasons for this, but one commonality to
note was that the people favored by the community also might have been
people who were more highly paid than the competition. Probably all the
people elected last time had some kind of support staff under their
management, whether from a department of some sort or under their
leadership somehow. It is not as if any of the selected candidates were
rich, but it might be the case that the entire process makes board members
with a certain amount of money much more effective and influential than
those who are below a certain income level. In some cases, money is a sign
of a more effective leader, and in other cases, maybe it is possible for a
person to have less money but more important influence in other ways.

I like Pete's idea of the board being empowered to hire support staff,
which as far as I know does not currently happen. Besides outright pay
there could be other investments in the board, like for example, maybe
board members could share a secretary to help them schedule appointments to
hear comments from the Wikimedia community. Or maybe they could get funding
for a videographer to take statements from them from time to time, if that
helps them communicate board business more effectively to the Wikimedia
community. I think it is still the case that many board members get through
their terms without ever publishing a statement about what they as an
individual think or do, or if any individual records are kept, I am not
sure where to see them. Maybe board members should get a travel allotment
to do some wiki-diplomacy if they like, because being on the WMF board is
inherently empowering and someone who can pay their own travel can get all
sorts of negotiating opportunities for the Wikimedia community that a
person who cannot pay cannot. Maybe they could have a translation budget,
since they are elected to represent communities which need urgent access to
international conversations while one of their own is speaking in a
leadership role. I am not sure what the support should be but being wealthy
on an international scale should not be a prerequisite to getting the
fullness of the experience.

Pay might not be the exact solution but also diversity includes economic
diversity, and I do not want the board perpetually slanted to favor the
views of those better off financially without serious consideration of what
it is like to be on the board with less personal income.

I really do not want a board member's service halted because their time was
consumed otherwise over a small amount of money. Any inexpensive thing that
can be done to make someone's life and Wiki engagement a little more open
and easy should be done, because once someone is elected, suddenly the
community of many tens of thousands really depends on every hour they are
able to contribute.



On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Pete Forsyth  wrote:

> Pine,
>
> It's unusual, and discouraged by the IRS (the United States' tax agency),
> for board members to be paid. I won't get into details, but I think this is
> a good thing, as it's tough to avoid conflict of interest when earning
> money from an entity you're seeking to get funding for. You can read a bit
> more here:
> https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/tools-resources/can-board-members-
> be-paid
>
> However, if board members have to spend substantial time in the course of
> their duties, that's something that could and should be solved. As I
> understand it, the board could pay support staff (roles like "assistant to
> the treasurer" or "assistant to the secretary"). They've already taken this
> route to some degree by appointing WMF staff to serve officer roles; this
> seems problematic to me, since as I understand it, the core function of
> board officers is to provide oversight over the organization's staff. (So
> it's odd to have a treasurer providing oversight over themselves.)
>
> But unless I'm mistaken, there's nothing that would prevent the board from
> hiring its own staff, as many as they deem appropriate, outside the
> organizational structure of the WMF, simply to support the work of the
> board members themselves.
>
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi Nataliia,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. An issue that keeps coming to my mind is whether
> WMF
> > would get higher-quality Board candidates, and whether candidates would
> > devote more time to Wikimedia matters, if Board membership was treated
> as a
> > part-time job and paid accordingly. Many people who have the kinds of
> > skills which are desirable for WMF Board membership can be paid
> (sometimes
> > very well) for their services. My understanding is that WMF Board
> > membership is far more involved 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[James Heilman]

Many of us also get newer laptops while the older ones are still
functional. I bet their are many community members who would also be happy
to donate to such a program.

James

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Sounds like a nice thought :) But maybe first go through this round, and
> see how that works out? It sounds like a big challenge, and I'm really
> curious how they are going to limit overhead. It still sounds like a big
> project to me. So lets reduce the amount of community requests that may
> make it more complicated to a minimum :P
>
> If it works well, maybe you could look for some community member(s) that
> want to help in scaling it up a bit?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-17 18:19 GMT+01:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
>
> > I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop donations for
> > this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to donate their old
> laptops
> > to Wikipedia volunteers...  I am not sure how big of an overhead it would
> > be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a significant
> > difference (?) .
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:14 PM Michael Maggs 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> > > Community donations?
> > >
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > >
> > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > > called
> > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office
> to
> > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > >
> > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > > Meta,
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > >
> > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> > pay
> > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine
> most
> > of
> > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > >
> > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> would
> > be
> > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person
> to
> > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding
> this
> > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to
> the
> > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social
> media
> > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > >
> > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> > idea
> > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > > inspired
> > > > this program.
> > > >
> > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > >
> > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > regularly
> > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > A: no.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > > > purposes?
> > > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > > of
> > > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> > Once
> > > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> > can't
> > > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them
> > through
> > > > this program?
> > > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > > A: So are we! :)
> > > >
> > > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > > A: So it goes.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Asaf
> > > > ___
> > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[James Heilman]

I disagree with the suggestion to pay members of the board. Payment does
not necessarily mean people will invest more time and a fair bit of
literature supports intrinsic motivation resulting in greater engagement
than extrinsic motivation. As most of our movement is not only composed of
volunteers but run by volunteers paying board members would likely increase
friction.

Best
James

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Nataliia,
>
> Thanks for the update. An issue that keeps coming to my mind is whether WMF
> would get higher-quality Board candidates, and whether candidates would
> devote more time to Wikimedia matters, if Board membership was treated as a
> part-time job and paid accordingly. Many people who have the kinds of
> skills which are desirable for WMF Board membership can be paid (sometimes
> very well) for their services. My understanding is that WMF Board
> membership is far more involved than once-per-month meetings that might
> happen at smaller organizations which might be able to more feasibly get
> volunteers for board roles due to the lower time requirements. Personally,
> I would rather have many high quality WMF Board members and have them doing
> Board work for 8+ hours per week and pay them accordingly, than have
> difficulty finding high quality Board members who are willing to invest the
> time required to do their jobs well. This might also help with the problems
> which were discussed in other threads regarding WMF Board members feeling
> like they lack adequate time to do their jobs adequately with the time that
> they have; if Board members are paid for their services then I expect that
> there will be less difficulty in this regard.
>
> Thanks,
> Pine
>
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall,
> March
> > 6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need
> more
> > time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were
> > extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two
> months.
> > Here is an outline of the updated timeline:
> >
> >
> >-
> >
> >Application and referral submission period (January 23 - May 6)
> >-
> >
> >Application and referral review, proactive candidate recruitment, and
> >interviews (January - June 5)
> >-
> >
> >   Initial application review and screenings (January - May)
> >   -
> >
> >   Board Governance Committee
> >    > Board_Governance_Committee>
> >   (BGC) discussions with candidates (January - May)
> >   -
> >
> >   BGC meets and makes short list (May)
> >   -
> >
> >   Second-round interviews (May - June 5)
> >   -
> >
> >  Background check conducted by BGC and Wikimedia Foundation staff
> >  -
> >
> > Criminal and financial background check conducted by outside
> > firm
> > -
> >
> > Thorough review of online and public coverage of candidates
> > -
> >
> >Executive Director and BGC meet to determine recommendations and
> provide
> >recommendations to the full Board (June)
> >-
> >
> >Board vote to confirm candidate (July)
> >-
> >
> >Announcement of new candidates (mid-July)
> >
> >
> > We decided to run this search ourselves, rather than going with a
> > recruiting firm. If we need additional help, we’ll assess in one month
> and
> > potentially discuss whether we need to look for external firms to support
> > our recruitment efforts.
> >
> > As a reminder, applicants may apply online at:
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We
> > also accept applications and referrals by email at
> > board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org. The recruitment materials can be
> > found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=55283092 [2].
> >
> >
> > I shall update the Meta page shortly [3].
> >
> > Please forward this information to people who are potentially interested
> in
> > serving the Wikimedia movement on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > Trustees.
> >
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
> > (as of Jan 23)
> >  > Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_recruitment=16250784>
> > [2]
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_
> > Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
> > [3]
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
> >
> > Best regards,
> > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> >
> > *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
> working
> > hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend. You
> > should not feel 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Pete Forsyth]

Pine,

It's unusual, and discouraged by the IRS (the United States' tax agency),
for board members to be paid. I won't get into details, but I think this is
a good thing, as it's tough to avoid conflict of interest when earning
money from an entity you're seeking to get funding for. You can read a bit
more here:
https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/tools-resources/can-board-members-be-paid

However, if board members have to spend substantial time in the course of
their duties, that's something that could and should be solved. As I
understand it, the board could pay support staff (roles like "assistant to
the treasurer" or "assistant to the secretary"). They've already taken this
route to some degree by appointing WMF staff to serve officer roles; this
seems problematic to me, since as I understand it, the core function of
board officers is to provide oversight over the organization's staff. (So
it's odd to have a treasurer providing oversight over themselves.)

But unless I'm mistaken, there's nothing that would prevent the board from
hiring its own staff, as many as they deem appropriate, outside the
organizational structure of the WMF, simply to support the work of the
board members themselves.

-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Nataliia,
>
> Thanks for the update. An issue that keeps coming to my mind is whether WMF
> would get higher-quality Board candidates, and whether candidates would
> devote more time to Wikimedia matters, if Board membership was treated as a
> part-time job and paid accordingly. Many people who have the kinds of
> skills which are desirable for WMF Board membership can be paid (sometimes
> very well) for their services. My understanding is that WMF Board
> membership is far more involved than once-per-month meetings that might
> happen at smaller organizations which might be able to more feasibly get
> volunteers for board roles due to the lower time requirements. Personally,
> I would rather have many high quality WMF Board members and have them doing
> Board work for 8+ hours per week and pay them accordingly, than have
> difficulty finding high quality Board members who are willing to invest the
> time required to do their jobs well. This might also help with the problems
> which were discussed in other threads regarding WMF Board members feeling
> like they lack adequate time to do their jobs adequately with the time that
> they have; if Board members are paid for their services then I expect that
> there will be less difficulty in this regard.
>
> Thanks,
> Pine
>
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall,
> March
> > 6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need
> more
> > time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were
> > extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two
> months.
> > Here is an outline of the updated timeline:
> >
> >
> >-
> >
> >Application and referral submission period (January 23 - May 6)
> >-
> >
> >Application and referral review, proactive candidate recruitment, and
> >interviews (January - June 5)
> >-
> >
> >   Initial application review and screenings (January - May)
> >   -
> >
> >   Board Governance Committee
> >    > Board_Governance_Committee>
> >   (BGC) discussions with candidates (January - May)
> >   -
> >
> >   BGC meets and makes short list (May)
> >   -
> >
> >   Second-round interviews (May - June 5)
> >   -
> >
> >  Background check conducted by BGC and Wikimedia Foundation staff
> >  -
> >
> > Criminal and financial background check conducted by outside
> > firm
> > -
> >
> > Thorough review of online and public coverage of candidates
> > -
> >
> >Executive Director and BGC meet to determine recommendations and
> provide
> >recommendations to the full Board (June)
> >-
> >
> >Board vote to confirm candidate (July)
> >-
> >
> >Announcement of new candidates (mid-July)
> >
> >
> > We decided to run this search ourselves, rather than going with a
> > recruiting firm. If we need additional help, we’ll assess in one month
> and
> > potentially discuss whether we need to look for external firms to support
> > our recruitment efforts.
> >
> > As a reminder, applicants may apply online at:
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We
> > also accept applications and referrals by email at
> > board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org. The recruitment materials can be
> > found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=55283092 [2].
> >
> >
> > I shall update the Meta page shortly [3].
> >
> > Please forward this information 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Lodewijk]

Sounds like a nice thought :) But maybe first go through this round, and
see how that works out? It sounds like a big challenge, and I'm really
curious how they are going to limit overhead. It still sounds like a big
project to me. So lets reduce the amount of community requests that may
make it more complicated to a minimum :P

If it works well, maybe you could look for some community member(s) that
want to help in scaling it up a bit?

Best,
Lodewijk

2017-03-17 18:19 GMT+01:00 Yuri Astrakhan :

> I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop donations for
> this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to donate their old laptops
> to Wikipedia volunteers...  I am not sure how big of an overhead it would
> be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a significant
> difference (?) .
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:14 PM Michael Maggs  wrote:
>
> > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> > Community donations?
> >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> >
> > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > > Asaf Bartov 
> > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > called
> > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > >
> > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > Meta,
> > > here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > >
> > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> pay
> > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most
> of
> > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > >
> > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > Applications are welcome.
> > >
> > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would
> be
> > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > >
> > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> idea
> > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > inspired
> > > this program.
> > >
> > > Mini-FAQ:
> > >
> > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> regularly
> > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> machines,
> > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > >
> > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > A: no.
> > >
> > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > A: yes, eventually.
> > >
> > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > > purposes?
> > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> > of
> > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> Once
> > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> can't
> > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > >
> > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them
> through
> > > this program?
> > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > A: So are we! :)
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > A: So it goes.
> > >
> > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda, 
EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot !


I copied it here : 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m9Kefc7QE3Ler7955vK4BMk1NK2XMrivw99K06_9GFE/edit?usp=sharing


So in the end, we had 160 unique participants alltogether !

Flo

Le 17/03/2017 à 14:11, Florence Devouard a écrit :

Hello everyone


Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !

The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only
contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the
African women gap !

Some figures

* Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the
English version.
* Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article
in terms of quality
* Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been improved
* The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
* Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to
coordinate the effort (nice !)
* The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high
quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good
participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very
cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be
offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
* Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised
less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
* Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people
participated, 54 people self reported participating to the
translate-a-thon ! Awesome !

I hope everybody enjoyed it.


If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"

1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic
communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post
information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or
Arabic ...)... very tough

2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the
query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really
tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know
that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query
myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing
something here

3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation
feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird

Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about
the drive around.

Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)

Florence


Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants



Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

[Sydney Poore]

Thank you to sharing. This is truly awesome. :-)

Looking forward to hearing results.

Sydney
User FloNight

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians,
Co-founder WikiWomen User Group,
Co-founder WikiConference North America
Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation,
Member of Simple Annual Plan Grant Committee





On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is
> organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad
> newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha and
> its Eastern Media ltd. is also a popular media house. The event is going to
> be organised in Sambad Bhavan on 18th and 19th March 2017. [2]
>
> The theme of this event is to write articles on women achievers of Odisha.
> The Sambad is interested in organising regular events in bridging the
> gender gap in content and will also provide images of Women from its
> archive.
>
> 1. https://or.wikipedia.org/s/13hj
> 2.
> http://cis-india.org/a2k/blogs/women2019s-history-
> month-sambad-collaborates-with-odia-wikipedia-for-a-two-day-edit-a-thon
>
>
> Media mentions:
> 1.
> http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-
> first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
> 2.
> http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-
> to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Sailesh
> --
> ---
> *Sailesh Patnaik* "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ*"
> Programme Associate, Access To Knowledge
> Centre for Internet and Society
> Phone: +91-7537097770
> *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter* : @saileshpat
>
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> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality"
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Yuri Astrakhan]

I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop donations for
this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to donate their old laptops
to Wikipedia volunteers...  I am not sure how big of an overhead it would
be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a significant
difference (?) .

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:14 PM Michael Maggs  wrote:

> Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for
> Community donations?
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
>
> It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
>
> Michael
>
> > Asaf Bartov 
> > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> called
> > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
> > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > community members who would put it to good use.
> >
> > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> Meta,
> > here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> >
> > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
> > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
> > the decisions we'll be making.
> >
> > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > Applications are welcome.
> >
> > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
> > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> >
> > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > channels or other communication forms you use.
> >
> > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
> > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> inspired
> > this program.
> >
> > Mini-FAQ:
> >
> > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
> > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working machines,
> > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
> > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> >
> > Q: Am I eligible?
> > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > A: no.
> >
> > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > A: yes, eventually.
> >
> > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > purposes?
> > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> of
> > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
> > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
> > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> >
> > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
> > this program?
> > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > A: So are we! :)
> >
> > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > A: So it goes.
> >
> > Q: I have more questions!
> > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Michael Maggs]

Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page for 
Community donations?


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange

It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.

Michael


Asaf Bartov 
17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
Dear Wikimedians,

The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program called
the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program designed to
donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
community members who would put it to good use.

The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on Meta,
here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program

Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
the decisions we'll be making.

We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
Applications are welcome.

The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
encourage you to apply as soon as possible.

Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
channels or other communication forms you use.

Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and inspired
this program.

Mini-FAQ:

Q: Why are you doing this?
A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working machines,
that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to San
Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.

Q: Am I eligible?
A: Read the fine program documentation.

Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
A: no.

Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
A: yes, eventually.

Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia 
purposes?

A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood of
Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.

Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
this program?
A: No. Read the fine program documentation.

Q: I'm really happy about this!
A: So are we! :)

Q: I'm really angry about this!
A: So it goes.

Q: I have more questions!
A: Hit 'Reply'. :)

Cheers,

Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Pine W]

Hi Nataliia,

Thanks for the update. An issue that keeps coming to my mind is whether WMF
would get higher-quality Board candidates, and whether candidates would
devote more time to Wikimedia matters, if Board membership was treated as a
part-time job and paid accordingly. Many people who have the kinds of
skills which are desirable for WMF Board membership can be paid (sometimes
very well) for their services. My understanding is that WMF Board
membership is far more involved than once-per-month meetings that might
happen at smaller organizations which might be able to more feasibly get
volunteers for board roles due to the lower time requirements. Personally,
I would rather have many high quality WMF Board members and have them doing
Board work for 8+ hours per week and pay them accordingly, than have
difficulty finding high quality Board members who are willing to invest the
time required to do their jobs well. This might also help with the problems
which were discussed in other threads regarding WMF Board members feeling
like they lack adequate time to do their jobs adequately with the time that
they have; if Board members are paid for their services then I expect that
there will be less difficulty in this regard.

Thanks,
Pine


Pine


On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall, March
> 6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need more
> time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were
> extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two months.
> Here is an outline of the updated timeline:
>
>
>-
>
>Application and referral submission period (January 23 - May 6)
>-
>
>Application and referral review, proactive candidate recruitment, and
>interviews (January - June 5)
>-
>
>   Initial application review and screenings (January - May)
>   -
>
>   Board Governance Committee
>    Board_Governance_Committee>
>   (BGC) discussions with candidates (January - May)
>   -
>
>   BGC meets and makes short list (May)
>   -
>
>   Second-round interviews (May - June 5)
>   -
>
>  Background check conducted by BGC and Wikimedia Foundation staff
>  -
>
> Criminal and financial background check conducted by outside
> firm
> -
>
> Thorough review of online and public coverage of candidates
> -
>
>Executive Director and BGC meet to determine recommendations and provide
>recommendations to the full Board (June)
>-
>
>Board vote to confirm candidate (July)
>-
>
>Announcement of new candidates (mid-July)
>
>
> We decided to run this search ourselves, rather than going with a
> recruiting firm. If we need additional help, we’ll assess in one month and
> potentially discuss whether we need to look for external firms to support
> our recruitment efforts.
>
> As a reminder, applicants may apply online at:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We
> also accept applications and referrals by email at
> board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org. The recruitment materials can be
> found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=55283092 [2].
>
>
> I shall update the Meta page shortly [3].
>
> Please forward this information to people who are potentially interested in
> serving the Wikimedia movement on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
> (as of Jan 23)
>  Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_recruitment=16250784>
> [2]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_
> Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>
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> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We would like to announce that we are officially beginning recruitment
> for
> > two open appointed positions on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees.
> > This email will outline the process and timeline for the recruitment.
> >
> > The Board initially began discussions on recruitment in May-June 2016
> [1].
> > After a pause, the Board Governance Committee (BGC) has renewed
> recruitment
> > for its vacant appointed seats and would love to share an update with you
> > today.
> >
> > With support from Anna Stillwell 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should the Endowment invest in REITs?

[James Salsman]

Can the issue raised in my second question below be addressed by limiting
REIT purchases to the top-N by capitalization? That is, should REIT and
fixed asset allocations be allocated to achieve the rights to information
about REITs instead of small real estate purchases?

Can we do a bias review study on the economics articles, please?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:35 PM James Salsman  wrote:

> Joseph Seddon wrote:
> >
> > You can find out more about the Endowment here:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Endowment
>
> I'm very glad to see the asset allocation strategy published, but I
> have questions:
>
> 1. Does the Foundation intend to benchmark Endowment performance
> against the mutual funds marketed by the largest five funds by
> capitalization to institutions for the purposes of meeting endowment
> investment requirements?
>
> 2. Should the Foundation be investing in real estate investment
> trusts? Is it ethical for the Foundation to be competing with people
> and companies for the ownership of real estate or other fixed assets?
>
> "When upper class earners gain income, they are far more likely to
> save or invest in fixed assets or real estate, which does not increase
> aggregate demand."
> --
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Economics#Tax_cut_claim_in_Fiscal_policy_section
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Asaf Bartov]

No, because anything larger than a laptop would no longer be simple and
cheap to deliver.

   A.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:18 AM Yuri Astrakhan 
wrote:

> Awesome, well done! Does the same program apply to servers?
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:20 AM Craig Franklin 
> wrote:
>
> > This is a fantastic idea.  Well done to everyone involved.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
> >
> > On 17 March 2017 at 15:06, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > >
> > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> > called
> > > the Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to
> > > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > >
> > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> > Meta,
> > > here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > >
> > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to
> pay
> > > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most
> of
> > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > >
> > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > Applications are welcome.
> > >
> > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would
> be
> > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > >
> > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the
> idea
> > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> > inspired
> > > this program.
> > >
> > > Mini-FAQ:
> > >
> > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> regularly
> > > replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally to San
> > > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> > >
> > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > A: no.
> > >
> > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > A: yes, eventually.
> > >
> > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> > purposes?
> > > A: We can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > of
> > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> Once
> > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> can't
> > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > >
> > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them
> through
> > > this program?
> > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > A: So are we! :)
> > >
> > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > A: So it goes.
> > >
> > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Awesome, well done! Does the same program apply to servers?

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:20 AM Craig Franklin 
wrote:

> This is a fantastic idea.  Well done to everyone involved.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 15:06, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program
> called
> > the Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to
> > donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> > community members who would put it to good use.
> >
> > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on
> Meta,
> > here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> >
> > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
> > attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
> > the decisions we'll be making.
> >
> > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > Applications are welcome.
> >
> > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
> > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> > encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> >
> > Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> > channels or other communication forms you use.
> >
> > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
> > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and
> inspired
> > this program.
> >
> > Mini-FAQ:
> >
> > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
> > replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older, working
> machines,
> > that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally to San
> > Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> > deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
> >
> > Q: Am I eligible?
> > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > A: no.
> >
> > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > A: yes, eventually.
> >
> > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia
> purposes?
> > A: We can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> of
> > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment. Once
> > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but can't
> > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> >
> > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
> > this program?
> > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> >
> > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > A: So are we! :)
> >
> > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > A: So it goes.
> >
> > Q: I have more questions!
> > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >Asaf
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Nataliia Tymkiv]

Dear all,

I have updates about the board recruiting process. As you may recall, March
6 was the original deadline for accepting submissions [1], but we need more
time to develop more solid candidates. Our original deadlines were
extremely ambitious, thus we decided to extend the deadline by two months.
Here is an outline of the updated timeline:


   -

   Application and referral submission period (January 23 - May 6)
   -

   Application and referral review, proactive candidate recruitment, and
   interviews (January - June 5)
   -

  Initial application review and screenings (January - May)
  -

  Board Governance Committee
  

  (BGC) discussions with candidates (January - May)
  -

  BGC meets and makes short list (May)
  -

  Second-round interviews (May - June 5)
  -

 Background check conducted by BGC and Wikimedia Foundation staff
 -

Criminal and financial background check conducted by outside
firm
-

Thorough review of online and public coverage of candidates
-

   Executive Director and BGC meet to determine recommendations and provide
   recommendations to the full Board (June)
   -

   Board vote to confirm candidate (July)
   -

   Announcement of new candidates (mid-July)


We decided to run this search ourselves, rather than going with a
recruiting firm. If we need additional help, we’ll assess in one month and
potentially discuss whether we need to look for external firms to support
our recruitment efforts.

As a reminder, applicants may apply online at:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers. We
also accept applications and referrals by email at
board-nominati...@lists.wikimedia.org. The recruitment materials can be
found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=55283092 [2].


I shall update the Meta page shortly [3].

Please forward this information to people who are potentially interested in
serving the Wikimedia movement on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
Trustees.

[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment
(as of Jan 23)

[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2017_Board_Recruiting_Candidate_Packet.pdf
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_Recruitment

Best regards,
antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv

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On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Nataliia Tymkiv 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We would like to announce that we are officially beginning recruitment for
> two open appointed positions on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees.
> This email will outline the process and timeline for the recruitment.
>
> The Board initially began discussions on recruitment in May-June 2016 [1].
> After a pause, the Board Governance Committee (BGC) has renewed recruitment
> for its vacant appointed seats and would love to share an update with you
> today.
>
> With support from Anna Stillwell (from the Talent & Culture department)
> and Michelle Paulson (our interim General Counsel), the BGC developed four
> candidate profiles for the vacant and soon-to-be-vacant seats and gave its
> recommendations to the Board in December 2016.
>
> During its December meeting, the Board decided that it hopes to find the
> following types of experience and expertise:
>
>
>1.
>
>Growing a global movement: apply
>
> 
>[2]
>2.
>
>Engaging new communities: apply
>
> 
>[3]
>3.
>
>Social sector governance: apply
>
> 
>[4]
>
>
> After that Anna, Michelle, and the Communications team integrated Board
> feedback and developed recruitment materials, which include background
> information about the Wikimedia movement and Foundation as well as the
> profiles describing the types of candidates we are looking for. These
> recruitment materials can be found at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/
> ?curid=55283092 [5].
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees currently has two vacant
> appointed seats. We also have a vacant community-selected seat, but this
> seat will be filled through the community selection process. The Election
> Committee, who runs the election process for community-selected seats, will
> provide further information about the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

[Florence Devouard]

Le 17/03/2017 à 05:04, Sailesh Patnaik a écrit :

Dear All,
Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is
organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad
newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha and
its Eastern Media ltd. is also a popular media house. The event is going to
be organised in Sambad Bhavan on 18th and 19th March 2017. [2]

The theme of this event is to write articles on women achievers of Odisha.
The Sambad is interested in organising regular events in bridging the
gender gap in content and will also provide images of Women from its
archive.

1. https://or.wikipedia.org/s/13hj
2.
http://cis-india.org/a2k/blogs/women2019s-history-month-sambad-collaborates-with-odia-wikipedia-for-a-two-day-edit-a-thon


Media mentions:
1.
http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
2.
http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/

Thanks and Regards
Sailesh



Awesome !
Keep us up to date on FB so that we can relay your success !

Flo


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Dan Garry]

On 17 March 2017 at 05:32, Gergő Tisza  wrote:

> This is one of those cool ideas which seem really obvious, but only in
> hindsight. Thanks!


Agreed. Thanks to Asaf and all involved in making this happen.

Dan

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

[Sailesh Patnaik]

Hello Lodewijk,
I have answered inline :)
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 1:58 PM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Wow, thanks for sharing Sailesh! It's exciting to see such a collaboration
> with a newspaper on this topic, and to involve journalists in the writing
> process.
>


> I'm really curious to how you came to work together, and hope you'll share
> a bit more for learning purposes on that.

I think it's the mutual interest by both Sambad and the Odia Wikipedia
community,  I remember Asaf's data (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon/Content_gap )helped me to explain
the gender gap in the content of Odia Wikipedia. I will share a learning
pattern after the event :)

>   Will this collaboration focus on
> the newspaper as employer of potential Wikipedians, or will there also be
> an effort down the line to encourage the readers to follow the example?

The event is mainly focused on improving the quality of articles related to
Women on Odia Wikipedia, We hope the journalists will turn into Wikipedians
and make it successful. There's an assurance from Ama Odisha, a unit of
Eastern Media Ltd. that after the event they'll organise Odia Wikipedia
editing camps in different parts of Odisha.

>
> Thank you, please feel free to ask more questions.

>
> Exciting!
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-17 5:04 GMT+01:00 Sailesh Patnaik :
>
> > Dear All,
> > Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is
> > organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad
> > newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha
> and
> > its Eastern Media ltd. is also a popular media house. The event is going
> to
> > be organised in Sambad Bhavan on 18th and 19th March 2017. [2]
> >
> > The theme of this event is to write articles on women achievers of
> Odisha.
> > The Sambad is interested in organising regular events in bridging the
> > gender gap in content and will also provide images of Women from its
> > archive.
> >
> > 1. https://or.wikipedia.org/s/13hj
> > 2.
> > http://cis-india.org/a2k/blogs/women2019s-history-
> > month-sambad-collaborates-with-odia-wikipedia-for-a-two-day-edit-a-thon
> >
> >
> > Media mentions:
> > 1.
> > http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-
> > first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
> > 2.
> > http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-
> > to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Sailesh
> > --
> > ---
> > *Sailesh Patnaik* "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ*"
> > Programme Associate, Access To Knowledge
> > Centre for Internet and Society
> > Phone: +91-7537097770
> > *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> > *Twitter* : @saileshpat
> >
> > "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the
> > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality"
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Centre for Internet and Society
Phone: +91-7537097770
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

[Florence Devouard]

Hello everyone


Time for some feedback about the #16WikiWomen translation drive !

The #16WikiWomen translate-a-thon was largely successful ! It not only 
contributed more content for Wikipedia, but also visibility about the 
African women gap !


Some figures

* Overall, 116 articles have been created based on translation from the 
English version.
* Out of those, 64 are basically a near equivalent of the master article 
in terms of quality

* Additionally, 39 previously existing article versions have been improved
* The overall number of languages concerned is 44 (+ English)
* Several communities created local pages on their own wiki to 
coordinate the effort (nice !)
* The most active linguistic communities to participate to produce high 
quality content were French, Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew. We also had good 
participation rates from Dutch, Portuguese, Punjabi, Swahili and very 
cool content from Igbo, Yoruba, Creole Haitien etc. (please do not be 
offended if I do not cite all languages ;))
* Half a dozen other articles were also suggested and though they raised 
less interest from translators, they are now noticed...
* Whilst we have not been able to figure out exactly how many people 
participated, 54 people self reported participating to the 
translate-a-thon ! Awesome !


I hope everybody enjoyed it.


If I may share some "organizational feedback with you"

1) It is quite challenging to actually communicate with many linguistic 
communities. As much as I was motivated, trying to actually post 
information on a wiki where I do not recognise anything (like Hebrew or 
Arabic ...)... very tough


2) I have not been able to identify someone who could help me do the 
query that would allow to know how many people participated. I really 
tried... but failed. I must say I found that very frustrating to know 
that the info is out there but I do not have the skills to do the query 
myself and not able to find someone to help within two months. Missing 
something here


3) Much to my dismay, many people obviously did not use the translation 
feature. I had put a very visible link though. Weird


Thank you to all those who participated or relayed the information about 
the drive around.


Next steps: we plan to do... booksmarks... with the ladies biographies ;)

Florence


Le 20/02/2017 à 11:10, Florence Devouard a écrit :

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves
Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translation drive #16WikiWomen.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to make translate the
Wikipedia biographies on 16 notable African women, into at least 16
languages (African or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women.
The list of language can be, but is not limited to:
* International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese,
Mandarin, German
* African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu,
Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho,
Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:
* Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
* Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician. The best
initial version was in French
* Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
* Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former
under-secretary-general of the United Nations
* Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
* Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
* Samia Yusuf Omar, Sprinter from Somalia
* Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
* Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
* Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human
rights activist
* Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in
Arabic
* Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
* Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
* Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
* Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
* Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in ! And help relay this message accross communities !


If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any
comments here :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/participants


Results will be tracked on this page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
I so agree but when it is quality that is to be achieved let it be a
guidance that helps us to achieve quality.

Wikidata should bring things together. I do not aim to achieve the quality
as described because it fails in achieving things that are actionable and
have a measurable effect on the quality of Wikidat as being complimentary
to Wikipedia.

Arguably the quality that Wikidata brings is not realised because of
Wikidata items are considered in the same way as articles. They are not.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 17 March 2017 at 13:06, Richard Nevell 
wrote:

> Having guidance on quality helps people learning about Wikidata understand
> what they should be aiming for.
>
> The paper on vandalism detection in Wikidata sounds interesting, where can
> I find it?
>
> Richard
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 09:09, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > I noticed the notion about "quality in Wikidata". The approach is very
> much
> > in line with what is the norm in Wikipedia. This is inot the right
> approach
> > for Wikidata. Many of the items in Wikidata can be of high "quality"; ie
> > the statements have a source and there are enough labels but the true
> value
> > of these items are in the use of these items as statements in other
> items..
> > (for instance a university indicates that someone studied there).
> Another
> > quality point is that for authors a VIAF statements allows for the
> linking
> > in Wikipedias in external sources. This is of a high importance, it makes
> > Wikidata useful and, if that is not of a quality consideration what is?
> >
> > One other aspect of Wikidata is that it is still highly immature. Just
> > consider the statistics for labels and statements [1] . This is only the
> > first month where less than 10% of our items have no statement.. We talk
> > about quality but quality should have a practical meaning. Just saying
> this
> > or that item is so good, it makes for stamp collecting. The point of a
> > stamp is not to collect them it is to send mail. Quality means that we
> know
> > how many articles have been written in one or more editathons. It is in
> > finding for a collection of items that it is better known what award,
> > schooling has been achieved by the people that was written for. It is in
> > using Wikidata to indicate what categories could be in what Wikipedia
> > article.
> >
> > Quality needs to be actionable. What is the use of static quality?
> > Thanks,
> >   GerardM
> >
> >
> > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse
> >
> > On 17 March 2017 at 02:19, Pine W  wrote:
> >
> > > Sharing some good news, both about the progress of ORES and (my primary
> > > inspiration for sharing this email) significant improvements in article
> > > quality thanks to WikiProject Women scientists. The latter has been
> > > designated as the Keilana Effect.
> > >
> > > Pine
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Aaron Halfaker 
> > > Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update
> > > To: Application of Artificial Intelligence and other advanced computing
> > > strategies to Wikimedia Projects 
> > > Cc: wikitech-l 
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey folks!
> > >
> > > I should really stop calling this a weekly update because it's getting
> a
> > > bit silly at this point.  :)   But if it were a weekly update, it would
> > > cover the weeks of 42 - 46.
> > >
> > > *Highlights:*
> > >
> > >- 3 new models: Finnish Wikipedia (reverted) and Estonian Wikipedia
> > >(damaging & goodfaith)
> > >
> > >
> > >- We estimated and agreed on funding for ORES servers in the next
> year
> > >with Operations
> > >
> > >
> > >- We published a paper about vandalism detection in Wikidata and a
> > blog
> > >post about the massive effect of some initiatives on coverage of
> Women
> > >Scientists in Wikipedia.
> > >
> > >
> > > *New development:*
> > >
> > >- We added recall-based threshold metrics to the new draftquality
> > model
> > >which should help tool devs know what which new page creations to
> > > highlight
> > >for review[1]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We added optional notices for ORES pages which will help us
> visually
> > >distinguish our experimental install in WMFlabs from the Prod
> install
> > (
> > >ores.wikimedia.org)[2]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We added basic language support for Finish (Thanks 4shadoww)[3]
> and
> > >deployed a 'reverted' model[4]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We lead a discussion in Wikidata about "item quality" that
> resulted
> > in
> > >a Wikipedia 1.0 like scale for Wikidata quality[5,6] and designed a
> > >Wikilabels form to capture the gist of it[7]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We enabled the ORES Review Tool on Czech Wikipedia[8]
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

[Amir Ladsgroup]

Hey,
It's in arxiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.03861
Any feedback is welcome :)

Best

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 3:37 PM Richard Nevell <
richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> Having guidance on quality helps people learning about Wikidata understand
> what they should be aiming for.
>
> The paper on vandalism detection in Wikidata sounds interesting, where can
> I find it?
>
> Richard
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 09:09, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > I noticed the notion about "quality in Wikidata". The approach is very
> much
> > in line with what is the norm in Wikipedia. This is inot the right
> approach
> > for Wikidata. Many of the items in Wikidata can be of high "quality"; ie
> > the statements have a source and there are enough labels but the true
> value
> > of these items are in the use of these items as statements in other
> items..
> > (for instance a university indicates that someone studied there).
> Another
> > quality point is that for authors a VIAF statements allows for the
> linking
> > in Wikipedias in external sources. This is of a high importance, it makes
> > Wikidata useful and, if that is not of a quality consideration what is?
> >
> > One other aspect of Wikidata is that it is still highly immature. Just
> > consider the statistics for labels and statements [1] . This is only the
> > first month where less than 10% of our items have no statement.. We talk
> > about quality but quality should have a practical meaning. Just saying
> this
> > or that item is so good, it makes for stamp collecting. The point of a
> > stamp is not to collect them it is to send mail. Quality means that we
> know
> > how many articles have been written in one or more editathons. It is in
> > finding for a collection of items that it is better known what award,
> > schooling has been achieved by the people that was written for. It is in
> > using Wikidata to indicate what categories could be in what Wikipedia
> > article.
> >
> > Quality needs to be actionable. What is the use of static quality?
> > Thanks,
> >   GerardM
> >
> >
> > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse
> >
> > On 17 March 2017 at 02:19, Pine W  wrote:
> >
> > > Sharing some good news, both about the progress of ORES and (my primary
> > > inspiration for sharing this email) significant improvements in article
> > > quality thanks to WikiProject Women scientists. The latter has been
> > > designated as the Keilana Effect.
> > >
> > > Pine
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Aaron Halfaker 
> > > Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update
> > > To: Application of Artificial Intelligence and other advanced computing
> > > strategies to Wikimedia Projects 
> > > Cc: wikitech-l 
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey folks!
> > >
> > > I should really stop calling this a weekly update because it's getting
> a
> > > bit silly at this point.  :)   But if it were a weekly update, it would
> > > cover the weeks of 42 - 46.
> > >
> > > *Highlights:*
> > >
> > >- 3 new models: Finnish Wikipedia (reverted) and Estonian Wikipedia
> > >(damaging & goodfaith)
> > >
> > >
> > >- We estimated and agreed on funding for ORES servers in the next
> year
> > >with Operations
> > >
> > >
> > >- We published a paper about vandalism detection in Wikidata and a
> > blog
> > >post about the massive effect of some initiatives on coverage of
> Women
> > >Scientists in Wikipedia.
> > >
> > >
> > > *New development:*
> > >
> > >- We added recall-based threshold metrics to the new draftquality
> > model
> > >which should help tool devs know what which new page creations to
> > > highlight
> > >for review[1]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We added optional notices for ORES pages which will help us
> visually
> > >distinguish our experimental install in WMFlabs from the Prod
> install
> > (
> > >ores.wikimedia.org)[2]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We added basic language support for Finish (Thanks 4shadoww)[3]
> and
> > >deployed a 'reverted' model[4]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We lead a discussion in Wikidata about "item quality" that
> resulted
> > in
> > >a Wikipedia 1.0 like scale for Wikidata quality[5,6] and designed a
> > >Wikilabels form to capture the gist of it[7]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We enabled the ORES Review Tool on Czech Wikipedia[8]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We configured ChangeProp to use our new minified JSON output to
> save
> > >bandwidth[9]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We extended the Estonian language assets (Thanks Cumbril)[10] and
> > >deployed the 'damaging' and 'goodfaith' models[11,12]
> > >
> > >
> > >- We enabled a testing model for 'goodfaith' on the Beta Cluster to
> > make
> > >it easier for the Collaboration team to run tests with their new
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

[Richard Nevell]

Having guidance on quality helps people learning about Wikidata understand
what they should be aiming for.

The paper on vandalism detection in Wikidata sounds interesting, where can
I find it?

Richard

On 17 March 2017 at 09:09, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I noticed the notion about "quality in Wikidata". The approach is very much
> in line with what is the norm in Wikipedia. This is inot the right approach
> for Wikidata. Many of the items in Wikidata can be of high "quality"; ie
> the statements have a source and there are enough labels but the true value
> of these items are in the use of these items as statements in other items..
> (for instance a university indicates that someone studied there).  Another
> quality point is that for authors a VIAF statements allows for the linking
> in Wikipedias in external sources. This is of a high importance, it makes
> Wikidata useful and, if that is not of a quality consideration what is?
>
> One other aspect of Wikidata is that it is still highly immature. Just
> consider the statistics for labels and statements [1] . This is only the
> first month where less than 10% of our items have no statement.. We talk
> about quality but quality should have a practical meaning. Just saying this
> or that item is so good, it makes for stamp collecting. The point of a
> stamp is not to collect them it is to send mail. Quality means that we know
> how many articles have been written in one or more editathons. It is in
> finding for a collection of items that it is better known what award,
> schooling has been achieved by the people that was written for. It is in
> using Wikidata to indicate what categories could be in what Wikipedia
> article.
>
> Quality needs to be actionable. What is the use of static quality?
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
>
> [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse
>
> On 17 March 2017 at 02:19, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Sharing some good news, both about the progress of ORES and (my primary
> > inspiration for sharing this email) significant improvements in article
> > quality thanks to WikiProject Women scientists. The latter has been
> > designated as the Keilana Effect.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Aaron Halfaker 
> > Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update
> > To: Application of Artificial Intelligence and other advanced computing
> > strategies to Wikimedia Projects 
> > Cc: wikitech-l 
> >
> >
> > Hey folks!
> >
> > I should really stop calling this a weekly update because it's getting a
> > bit silly at this point.  :)   But if it were a weekly update, it would
> > cover the weeks of 42 - 46.
> >
> > *Highlights:*
> >
> >- 3 new models: Finnish Wikipedia (reverted) and Estonian Wikipedia
> >(damaging & goodfaith)
> >
> >
> >- We estimated and agreed on funding for ORES servers in the next year
> >with Operations
> >
> >
> >- We published a paper about vandalism detection in Wikidata and a
> blog
> >post about the massive effect of some initiatives on coverage of Women
> >Scientists in Wikipedia.
> >
> >
> > *New development:*
> >
> >- We added recall-based threshold metrics to the new draftquality
> model
> >which should help tool devs know what which new page creations to
> > highlight
> >for review[1]
> >
> >
> >- We added optional notices for ORES pages which will help us visually
> >distinguish our experimental install in WMFlabs from the Prod install
> (
> >ores.wikimedia.org)[2]
> >
> >
> >- We added basic language support for Finish (Thanks 4shadoww)[3] and
> >deployed a 'reverted' model[4]
> >
> >
> >- We lead a discussion in Wikidata about "item quality" that resulted
> in
> >a Wikipedia 1.0 like scale for Wikidata quality[5,6] and designed a
> >Wikilabels form to capture the gist of it[7]
> >
> >
> >- We enabled the ORES Review Tool on Czech Wikipedia[8]
> >
> >
> >- We configured ChangeProp to use our new minified JSON output to save
> >bandwidth[9]
> >
> >
> >- We extended the Estonian language assets (Thanks Cumbril)[10] and
> >deployed the 'damaging' and 'goodfaith' models[11,12]
> >
> >
> >- We enabled a testing model for 'goodfaith' on the Beta Cluster to
> make
> >it easier for the Collaboration team to run tests with their new
> filter
> >interface[13]
> >
> >
> >- We created a new "precache" endpoint that will allow us to
> >de-duplicate configuration with ChangeProp and handle all routing in
> > ORES
> >locally[14]
> >
> >
> > *Resourcing:*
> >
> >- We completed a 2 year estimate of ORES resource needs and discussed
> >funding (capital expendature) for ORES in the coming fiscal year[15].
> > This
> >will allow us to continue to grow ORES both 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
I noticed the notion about "quality in Wikidata". The approach is very much
in line with what is the norm in Wikipedia. This is inot the right approach
for Wikidata. Many of the items in Wikidata can be of high "quality"; ie
the statements have a source and there are enough labels but the true value
of these items are in the use of these items as statements in other items..
(for instance a university indicates that someone studied there).  Another
quality point is that for authors a VIAF statements allows for the linking
in Wikipedias in external sources. This is of a high importance, it makes
Wikidata useful and, if that is not of a quality consideration what is?

One other aspect of Wikidata is that it is still highly immature. Just
consider the statistics for labels and statements [1] . This is only the
first month where less than 10% of our items have no statement.. We talk
about quality but quality should have a practical meaning. Just saying this
or that item is so good, it makes for stamp collecting. The point of a
stamp is not to collect them it is to send mail. Quality means that we know
how many articles have been written in one or more editathons. It is in
finding for a collection of items that it is better known what award,
schooling has been achieved by the people that was written for. It is in
using Wikidata to indicate what categories could be in what Wikipedia
article.

Quality needs to be actionable. What is the use of static quality?
Thanks,
  GerardM


[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse

On 17 March 2017 at 02:19, Pine W  wrote:

> Sharing some good news, both about the progress of ORES and (my primary
> inspiration for sharing this email) significant improvements in article
> quality thanks to WikiProject Women scientists. The latter has been
> designated as the Keilana Effect.
>
> Pine
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aaron Halfaker 
> Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] The Revision Scoring weekly update
> To: Application of Artificial Intelligence and other advanced computing
> strategies to Wikimedia Projects 
> Cc: wikitech-l 
>
>
> Hey folks!
>
> I should really stop calling this a weekly update because it's getting a
> bit silly at this point.  :)   But if it were a weekly update, it would
> cover the weeks of 42 - 46.
>
> *Highlights:*
>
>- 3 new models: Finnish Wikipedia (reverted) and Estonian Wikipedia
>(damaging & goodfaith)
>
>
>- We estimated and agreed on funding for ORES servers in the next year
>with Operations
>
>
>- We published a paper about vandalism detection in Wikidata and a blog
>post about the massive effect of some initiatives on coverage of Women
>Scientists in Wikipedia.
>
>
> *New development:*
>
>- We added recall-based threshold metrics to the new draftquality model
>which should help tool devs know what which new page creations to
> highlight
>for review[1]
>
>
>- We added optional notices for ORES pages which will help us visually
>distinguish our experimental install in WMFlabs from the Prod install (
>ores.wikimedia.org)[2]
>
>
>- We added basic language support for Finish (Thanks 4shadoww)[3] and
>deployed a 'reverted' model[4]
>
>
>- We lead a discussion in Wikidata about "item quality" that resulted in
>a Wikipedia 1.0 like scale for Wikidata quality[5,6] and designed a
>Wikilabels form to capture the gist of it[7]
>
>
>- We enabled the ORES Review Tool on Czech Wikipedia[8]
>
>
>- We configured ChangeProp to use our new minified JSON output to save
>bandwidth[9]
>
>
>- We extended the Estonian language assets (Thanks Cumbril)[10] and
>deployed the 'damaging' and 'goodfaith' models[11,12]
>
>
>- We enabled a testing model for 'goodfaith' on the Beta Cluster to make
>it easier for the Collaboration team to run tests with their new filter
>interface[13]
>
>
>- We created a new "precache" endpoint that will allow us to
>de-duplicate configuration with ChangeProp and handle all routing in
> ORES
>locally[14]
>
>
> *Resourcing:*
>
>- We completed a 2 year estimate of ORES resource needs and discussed
>funding (capital expendature) for ORES in the coming fiscal year[15].
> This
>will allow us to continue to grow ORES both in number of models and in
>scoring capacity.
>
>
> *Communications:*
>
>- Amir improved the KDD paper based on review feedback[16] and got it
>published[17]
>
>
>- We published a blob post about our measurements of WikiProject Women
>Scientists[18,19] -- "The Keilana Effect"
>
>
>- Thanks to Cumbril's work, the Estonian labeling campaing was
>finished[20]
>
>
> *Deployments:*
>
>- In early February, we deployed a new set of translations to Wikilabels
>(specifcally targeting Romanian 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amical Wikimedia 2017 Brand New Board

[Quim Gil]

Hola!

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Àlex Hinojo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After two weeks of open elections, I'm glad to announce you the brand *new
> board of Amical Wikimedia*, with 8 members, of which 5 are new.
>
>
>- Laia Benito Pericas - Chair
>- Lluís Madurell Alemany - Secretary
>- Xavier Dengra Grau - Treasurer
>- Josep Nogué -  Member (former treasurer)
>- Carles Paredes  -  Member (former secretary)
>- David Parreño Mont - Member
>- Esther Bonet Solé  - Member
>- Pau Colominas -   Member
>

Congratulations! The former board was a dream team and after renewing 5 of
8 seats (and changing the roles of the previous board members...) the new
board is... another dream team!

Other interesting points:

* Most of these members are very active editors (VERY).
* Some of them joined not that long ago (I mean, a few years).
* Some of them... learned to write not that long ago  ;) (I mean, I'd be
curious to know the median age of this board) and they can be considered
"native Wikipedians".
* All of them have been regularly involved in editathons, workshops, GLAM,
Wiki Loves contests, social media and comms... as much as featured
articles, fighting vandalism, cleaning tasks, connecting with Wikidata,
administering Wikisource, Wikibooks...

Arnau Duran, our former president, was not running for a new term, and both
> the board and the community are grateful for his service these years.
>

Arnau would deserve a paid retirement, but Wikimedia is not there yet.  ;)

PS: as a not very active member of Amical I am probably biased, but a) I
didn't participate in the election and b) many people ask me about the
factors of success of Amical, and imho there you have the tip of the
iceberg.

-- 
Quim Gil
Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[kayode yussuf]

This is a laudable effort. I will however suggest that this program be 
localized. 

Local affiliate teams can server as holding bays and dispatchers of donated 
laptops. 

So if I want to donate a laptop here in Lagos, Nigeria, I simply send the said 
laptop to the local affiliate team and communicate with Wikimedia HQ. when 
someone local needs a laptop, HQ approves and the local affiliate team on 
receipt of approvals dispatch the laptop to the person laptop was donated to. 

This will ensure global reach, reduce cost and improve efficiency of the 
project. 

Kayode Yussuf 

> On Mar 17, 2017, at 08:16, rupert THURNER  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>> We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
>> Applications are welcome.
> 
> asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops?
> fyi, in CH we work with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labdoo for such
> occasions, adding e.g. offline en:wp, fr:wp and kiwix to what labdoo
> puts on.
> 
> rupert
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

[Lodewijk]

Wow, thanks for sharing Sailesh! It's exciting to see such a collaboration
with a newspaper on this topic, and to involve journalists in the writing
process.

I'm really curious to how you came to work together, and hope you'll share
a bit more for learning purposes on that.  Will this collaboration focus on
the newspaper as employer of potential Wikipedians, or will there also be
an effort down the line to encourage the readers to follow the example?

Exciting!

Lodewijk

2017-03-17 5:04 GMT+01:00 Sailesh Patnaik :

> Dear All,
> Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is
> organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad
> newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha and
> its Eastern Media ltd. is also a popular media house. The event is going to
> be organised in Sambad Bhavan on 18th and 19th March 2017. [2]
>
> The theme of this event is to write articles on women achievers of Odisha.
> The Sambad is interested in organising regular events in bridging the
> gender gap in content and will also provide images of Women from its
> archive.
>
> 1. https://or.wikipedia.org/s/13hj
> 2.
> http://cis-india.org/a2k/blogs/women2019s-history-
> month-sambad-collaborates-with-odia-wikipedia-for-a-two-day-edit-a-thon
>
>
> Media mentions:
> 1.
> http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-
> first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
> 2.
> http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-
> to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Sailesh
> --
> ---
> *Sailesh Patnaik* "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ*"
> Programme Associate, Access To Knowledge
> Centre for Internet and Society
> Phone: +91-7537097770
> *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter* : @saileshpat
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[rupert THURNER]

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> Applications are welcome.

asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops?
fyi, in CH we work with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labdoo for such
occasions, adding e.g. offline en:wp, fr:wp and kiwix to what labdoo
puts on.

rupert

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