Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
FYI, Edward Galvez has been maintaining this calendar that has been going for a while that chapters and staff have been using for various consultations, surveys, and RfCs. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement/Calendar Seems to me this is a good approach to avoid the issue of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-18 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W wrote: > As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate > its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a > predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+ >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread Chico Venancio
Pine, Of course we could benefit from consolidation and pruning of communication channels. This has been the case for at least a decade, how to do that without alienating part of the community that uses the pruned channels is a very difficult task, however. Nevertheless, this does not mean one can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+ notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys, with some of those being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
Christophe, Thanks for the comments. I think of WMF Board membership as being similar to ENWP Arbcom or some event committee memberships in the sense that doing the roles well often seems to require a near-martyrdom level of commitment. I'd like to see some ceilings on workloads for volunteers,

[Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

2017-03-18 Thread Lodewijk
(branching this into a new thread as it gets quite off topic) Pine: Why do you think the solution lies with the Wikimedia Foundation? Lodewijk 2017-03-18 22:52 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications > (too much and too

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
My point is more or less the same one that you're making. Communications (too much and too little) and information overload are both challenges. I don't think there's going to be a silver bullet solution, but I hope that WMF will invest effort into addressing this set of problems during the next

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread David Gerard
You mean, "how to deal with people who complain they weren't consulted then turn around and complain they were excessively consulted"? At this point, the appropriate thing would be to put forward a plausible solution rather than complain they did the thing you claimed they hadn't sufficiently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
Chris, That last paragraph assumes that people (1) know where to look and (2) have hours to spend watching countless channels for announcements. On the other hand, there's also a problem of burying people in so many announcements, surveys, and consultations that people start to tune it all out.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

2017-03-18 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
Well, folks are free to ignore invitations to comment; there are indeed a lot of discussion notices for various matters, so I don't blame them if they world rather volunteer their time in other places. But they cannot then also argue that they didn't know about it. If people want to know what's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

2017-03-18 Thread Anna Stillwell
Well done. /a On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood wrote: > The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the > #16WikiWomen!! > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard > wrote: > > > And... magically...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

2017-03-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
>>I dont understand why this picture : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Feixina_Park_Torrent_de_Sa_Riera_Basti%C3%B2_de_Sant_Pere_Palma_de_Mallorca.jpg is in the birds category : Sorting error. It has been moved to the correct category. Thank you :-) --Steinsplitter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

2017-03-18 Thread Lionel Allorge
Hi, > We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now > open. Thank you. It is always a pleasure to vote for those very good pictures. > For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Great ! I dont understand why this picture :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-18 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Christophe Thanks for that. You write we are actively working on trying to reduce > the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between > this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average > (and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that).

[Wikimedia-l] Picture of the Year | 2016 | voting open

2017-03-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Dear Wikimedians, We are happy to announce that the 2016 Picture of the Year competition is now open. Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen

2017-03-18 Thread Isla Haddow-Flood
The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the #16WikiWomen!! On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard wrote: > And... magically... just today, I got the query data thanks to Amanda, > EricB and Roan ! Thanks a lot ! > > I copied it here : > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-18 Thread Christophe Henner
Hey, Many topics covered here :) 1. Paid vs. unpaid: I don't know of the legal situation, but I always felt that for a NGO it is better to have a volunteer board. Especially for us as our movement is built thanks to volunteers. I fear it would slightly hinder our message if trustees were paid.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

2017-03-18 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Pine, By the same argument, then, the Foundation should be compensating the unpaid volunteers who actually create the content of the projects, and supporting them with the tools and resources they need to do that work. "Rogol" On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Pine W wrote: